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Good to know Rummy and the gang in the Pentagon have finally got our fighting forces in Iraq fully equiped......kinda:

"John Tod of Mesa had been prepared to face Father's Day worrying about his son's pending date with the war in Iraq.

"Then Uncle Sam stepped in with more disappointing developments.

"Marine Pfc. Jeremy Tod called home with news that his superiors were urging him and fellow Marines to buy special military equipment, including flak jackets with armor plating, to enhance the prospects of their survival.

"The message was that such purchases were to be made by Marines with their own money.

"He said they strongly suggested he get this equipment because when they get to Iraq they will wish they had," Tod said."

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"Besides the essential flak jacket with steel "trauma" plates, the shopping list for the young Marine included a Camelbak (water pouch) special ballistic goggles, knee and elbow pads, a "drop pouch" to hold ammunition magazines and a load-bearing vest."

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http://www.azcentral.com/news/column...son18Z10.html#

WTF?!?!?!?!
 

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In light of the article in the OP, consider the following piece on use of the military budget the recent GOP-controlled legislative has kept as a pork trough:

Congress said to steer military funds to pet projects

"Congress, taking advantage of wartime support of national defense spending, is using the military's budget to steer billions to pet projects that apparently have little to do with Iraq or the ongoing war on terrorism, according to congressional documents, government budget officials, and watchdog groups.

"The projects range from an unneeded warship and a seriously flawed cargo plane the Pentagon tried to cancel to millions each for a Mississippi wastewater treatment plant, a Nevada fire training station, and a Texas research hospital, the documents show.

"The House of Representatives opened debate yesterday on a $409 billion defense appropriations bill for next year that includes at least $12 billion for weapons and research programs the Pentagon did not ask for and what critics label ''pork," according to the congressional reports and initial estimates by budget specialists. The projects were added by influential House members, who propose paying for many of them by cutting the budget for more urgent defense programs such as military training."

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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...ojects?mode=PF

I advice readers to take these two articles, email themn to your respective congressfolk and senators and ask them what's wrong with this picture?
 

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I do not see why more people do not see through the lies.

Months and months ago we (the US populace) was told that if soldiers were missing equipment it was because it COULDN'T BE MANUFACTURED fast enough. That was a lie. The manufacturers themselves said so. And the problem is still going on. Stop wasting money on cr$p and buy these poor people some gear.

Additionally, I am seriously about to go crazy with all the "Support Our Troops" magnets. If you *really* supported our troops you wouldn't be spending $2 at Target on a magnet--- you'd be doing something to actually help out. How I wish that those magnets were $5, $10, $20... and that the proffits went to the families of deployed service people, or for things they need, etc...
 

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This is something I've been thinking on for a couple of days. Redistribution of wealth in this country.

Who is making that gear that the soldiers need to pay for out of their own pocket? I don't know, but I'm assuming military contractors right?

This is just one more way for the poorest of America (the soliders) to have to ante up yet again to the corporations.

I thought about this a lot over the last week after visiting my dh's grandma in a nursing home. My dh's grandparents are 85 years old, worked hard all their lives, saved, had a pension, etc. And now after she had a stroke all their savings are being whittled away, $4000/month at a time. One more way for the underclass in American to have nothing when they die. That money is back in the hands of the "deserving" corporate medical institutions.
 

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George W. Bush, March 15, 2003:

"There is little reason to hope that Saddam Hussein will disarm. If force is required to disarm him, the American people can know that our armed forces have been given every tool and every resource to achieve victory,'' Mr. Bush said in his weekly radio broadcast."

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http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/200...1606561400.htm
 

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Good grief...

Report: Marine units in Iraq found to lack equipment

"Marine Corps units fighting in some of the most dangerous terrain in Iraq don't have enough weapons, communications gear, or properly outfitted vehicles, according to an investigation by the Marine Corps' inspector general provided to Congress yesterday.

"The report, obtained by the Globe, says the estimated 30,000 Marines in Iraq need twice as many heavy machine guns, more fully protected armored vehicles, and more communications equipment to operate in a region the size of Utah.

"The Marine Corps leadership has ''understated" the amount and types of ground equipment it needs, according to the investigation, concluding that all of its fighting units in Iraq ''require ground equipment that exceeds" their current supplies, ''particularly in mobility, engineering, communications, and heavy weapons."

"Complaints of equipment shortages in Iraq, including lack of adequate vehicle armor, have plagued the Pentagon for months, but most of the reported shortages have been found in the Army, which makes up the bulk of the American occupation force.

"The analysis of the Marines' battle readiness, however, shows that the Corps is lacking key equipment needed to stabilize Al Anbar province in western Iraq. The province is where some of the bloodiest fighting has occurred in recent months between American-led coalition forces and Iraqi insurgents aided by foreign fighters who have slipped across the border."

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...ipment?mode=PF
 

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Just FYI, the Marines must buy their own gear, clothing, pay for food, etc. etc. etc.

Oh, yes, they like getting socks, toilet paper, wet wipes, mouthwash.

Rummy and co. are a bunch of horse's asses.

Debra Baker
 

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Debra

I've been told by a couple of aquaintences who were in Mosul and near the Baghdad International that wet wipes were like gold.

Not sure if this is something that you'll want to watch but PBS' Frontline segment tonight is on private contractors and DoD's dependance on them in Iraq: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/warriors/

Given how much private contractors make and the IG's report on the Marines' equipment shortages, it makes you wonder what type of photos Rummy has of Dubya in compromising positions to not get shitcanned by now.

Best of luck to your daughter.
 
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