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DD's eczema started at 6 months over where she had her immunizations in her thighs. I as our naturopath believe that it is a vaccine reaction. I stopped vaccinating at 15 months. So, now we are having her hair analyzed to see if it is lead or mercury that has caused her to be sensitive to dairy. This is manifesting as the eczema.<br><br>
We are eliminating dairy from our diet. This has been very hard for DD as she was dairy's biggest fan. She has went to bed hungry a few nights and cried out for cheese in her sleep, because she refused to eat. We are on a very tight budget and have to shop at a regular grocery for most things, and sometimes even a discount grocery like Save-A-Lot. She tolerates goat milk well and we buy that for her ($5 for 1/2 gallon). However, I've been shocked at all the things that don't list dairy in the ingredients, but has the bold type Contains: Milk. Things that I've bought like margarine to replace our butter says it. We've elminated the obvious, and I'm reading labels. I'm just wondering if dairy is not listed directly in the ingredients is there enough in there in whole form to bother her.<br><br>
She is on extra vitamin D. We are chelating with cilantro. She takes cod liver oil and probiotics. We are seeing such a big change already in her worst spot that has showed no sign of healing in 1 1/2 years. It is nearly healed. Praise God. Do I need to be very very strict in that if it says Contains: Milk, but doesn't list it in the ingredients - don't buy it.<br><br>
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You need to be VERY strict. You need to understand ALL ingredients that masquerade as dairy (ie: natural flavor and the like.) This will take the assault off of her little system and allow her to really heal. Every exposure has the potential to set you pretty far back. I personally wouldn't do goat milk if my kid was that sensitive (and mine are) In my opinion (and not everyone shares it) casein is casein.<br><br>
So, yes mama. Do your best to avoid it.
 

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No advice, other than I agree with Firefaery, but I couldn't read this post from a fellow DDC'er and not offer a hug. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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I agree too. We've wiped out everything with any trace of dairy in it. I used to have a list of ingredients that were actually dairy even though they didn't appear to. I'm still looking for the link, I'll post it when I find it.
 

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Thanks so much. We went today and got some of the 100% Vegan butter, and a snack for her. I still bought the goat milk, though I have been debating that. Our naturopath told us that the goat milk would be fine, and she drinks that readily. I've taken so much of her favorite things from her that I hate to take something else (but will if necessary). I'm wary of the soy milk with all the buzz about it acting as estrogen in the body. We have never tried rice milk or almond milk, so I don't know if she'd taste it and gag and spit like she did with the Veggie cheese I bought her.<br><br>
I'd be really interested in seeing the ingredients list. I'd pass that to the grandparents too, since they aren't quite getting all this. She doesn't see them much, but often enough.
 

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Yes, if the label states "contains milk" then there is some form of milk byproduct in it. Reading labels can become VERY tricky! I found I had to almost learn a new language.<br><br>
Here are some terms that have milk in them:<br>
Casein<br>
Ammonium caseinate<br>
Potassium caseinate<br>
Sodium caseinate<br>
Calcium caseinate<br>
Magnesium caseinate<br>
Whey and Whey Ingredients<br>
Delactosed whey<br>
Hydrolysates<br>
Casein hydrolysate<br>
Milk protein hydrolysate<br><br>
Ingredients that may include milk:<br>
Caramel flavoring<br>
Caramel color<br>
High protein flavor<br>
High protein flour<br>
Natural flavoring<br>
Artificial flavoring<br>
Artificial butter flavor<br>
Ghee<br>
Nougat<br>
Bavarian cream<br>
Coconut cream<br>
Lactalbumin<br>
Lactalbumin phosphate<br>
Lactoglobulin<br>
Rennet<br>
Lactic Acid Starter Culture (Sometimes, these cultures are prepared by using milk as an initial growth medium.)<br><br>
taken from <a href="http://www.foodallergy.org/" target="_blank">http://www.foodallergy.org/</a>
 

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For grandparents, you might just list things she can have. My mom's totally into this so she reads every single label and clears everything through me. My dad and mil, not so much. I think it'd be easier for them to know what they can feed her. And send along food if you're worried.
 

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When my dd goes to my mom's I pack a cooler of safe foods, then give her a list of staples that I know she has that are safe (ie baked potatoes with the margerine I send, raisins, fruit, veggies with the hummous I send, etc). I still get 140387 calls asking if X is safe, but I'd rather she be obsessive than not worry enough.
 

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Honestly, I've found that it's easier (& cheaper!) to just not buy anything with a label. Seriously. All whole foods = no worries. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
I'm also leary of "vegan butter" & margarine," what are the ingredients in those? Sometimes it's better just to remove foods & not try to substitute them with pseudo-foods. Vegetable oils aren't really healthy. How about using coconut oil instead? It has a lot of good fats & is a *real* food, it seems to satisfy my dairy cravings pretty well. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thanks again. The list of ingredients to watch for will be really helpful. I'm finding more and more everyday that this is going way beyond eliminating milk and cheese, and that there are still traces of milk in much of the food that I've been feeding her these 2 weeks. She is showing signs of healing, and I know when I can master this, she will get better. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me.
 
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