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I'm not sure if this belongs here or in the Pregnancy forum...<br><br>
A friend of mine received Rhogam during her pregnancy. Her baby is 7 months old now and has had developmental delays, low muscle tone, permanently crossed eyes and has severe 'colic.' The doctors are still trying to figure out what's wrong.<br><br>
The baby has had no vaccinations. I've been searching around and see that they took thimerosal out of Rhogam a few years back, but does it still contain trace amounts? Could the Rhogam be to blame (or partly to blame)? I can't find anything on risks to the fetus as far as the mercury-free Rhogam goes...
 

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when i received a shot of rhogram last May, I looked through the ingredients, and there was no thimerasol listed, not even like the vax list the CDC has where it has thimerasol with an asterisk.<br><br>
so from what i have researched and read myself, the vax does not contain it, now.<br><br>
sorry to hear about your friends babe, hope all turns out well
 

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If you've ever requested the paperwork off of a vaccination package you will find out that there are more toxic ingredients than just trace amounts of mercury in them. For instance, in many there are aluminum adjuvants and formaldehyde. I don't have my paperwork out and available right now but I would think that there may be a possibility that vaccination during pregnancy could have at least contributed to the myriad of problems her baby is experiencing. Other factors may include, of course, genetics, prenatal diet/nutrition, exposure to other chemicals/meds in utero and during birth, etc.
 

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i'm in a hurry this morning and don't have time to dig this out right now, but i'm pretty sure that Dr. Cave talks about Rhogam in her book, What your doctor may not tell you about Childhood Vaccinations. do you have a copy? it's an awesome place to start!
 

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I had Rhogam and my son is perfectly healthy. It's going to be hard to pinpoint a cause for delay.
 

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I just looked in Dr. Cave's book and didn't see anything on Rhogam. I'm curious too. I had the Rhogam shot at 28 weeks and post birth and my unvaxed DS perfectly normal. There could be so so many more causes than just that, although I won't say that it couldn't have contributed. Hugs to your friend and her babe.
 

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i dont see anything about rhogham in the index...
 

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Prenatal rhogam is not as innocuous as it is made out to be. For some of the issues about administering it prenatally, check out the link in my siggie. I don't know if it can be pinpointed as the cause for his delays, but it may have contributed to some issues along with diet and nutrition, enviro toxins, genetics, epigenetics, etc.<br><br>
It is a class C drug and so it has unknown effects on the fetus.<br><br>
If you read the product insert, you'll also see that it may contain not screened for contaminating agents (due to the human blood product base).<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I had winrho 3 times during my first pg. We lost our child just before birth. The autopsy indicated the problems started to coincidentally happen just after the last prenatal shot. Her cause of death was ruled "unknown." My subsequent pg was rhogam-free (I was already sensitized) and I ate the same diet, lived in the same place, lived the same life as my first pg and had a relatively healthy baby (slight jaundice from the Rh incompatibility)...sure, it can be written off as coincidence, but it makes me wonder about the effects of giving prenatal rhogam. Why not just wait until after delivery and administer the shot then? The risk of sensitization after waiting only goes up slightly, maybe 1-2%.
 

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Rhogam is not the safe, innocent little drug that they make it out to be. If you want to read up on the history of it then get sara wickham's "Anti-D in Midwifery".
 

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the reference to rhogam is not in the back with the vaccine info but interspersed in the text earlier in the book. i can't find it right off -- i'll keep looking -- and i hope i haven't mispoken, but i really thought that she talks about rhogam and reactions that she has noticed within her own practice. anyone else recall this?
 

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this is not exactly what i was refering to earlier, as this quote doesn't define the problem specifically, but i found this reference to Rhogam:<br><br>
"In our office, we are currently seeing more than six hundred children with autism and several hundred with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). I believe these children have been poisoned by mercury from various sources, including directly through injections of vaccines (hepatitis B, DTP, and Hib) and indirectly through the placenta and breast milk through the mother's diet (fish), amalgam fillings, envirnomental exposure (for example, water, air poillution), <i>and for Rh negative mothers, the use of Rho(D) immune globulin</i>"<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations</span>, Dr. Stephanie Cave, pg 78
 

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RhoGAM no longer contains thimerosol. Starting in April of 2001, the manufacturer agreed to distribute only thimerosol-free RhoGAM to the US. Prior to this, most people who received a dose of RhoGAM would have been injected with approximately 10.5 micrograms (1 microgram = one-millionths of a gram, for metric system haters) of ethyl mercury. In some cases of fetal-maternal hemorrhage and Rh+ transfusions, more RhoGAM would be given.<br><br>
BayRho, another Rho(D) immune globulin product manufacturered by a different company, has not contained thimerosol since 1996. Prior to that, one dose contained approximately 35 micrograms of ethyl mercury.<br><br>
Since your friend's baby is 7 months old, she must have received the thimerosol-free Rho(D) immune globulin. I agree with QueenOfThePride: Finding a cause of the baby's problems may be very difficult. I hope all turns out well for your friend and her baby.
 

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Does anyone know if any long term safety studies (as in, up to age 5 or 6) have been done on babies who's mothers recieved RhoGam while pregnant?<br><br>
I know collecting anecdotes isn't a great way to form opinions, but around here we really, really hear a LOT about kids with developmental delays who's moms recieved it. And it might not have anything to do with thimerosal. It might be the Ig, itself, or failure of the Ig to work...it could be a lot of things, or be a kind of "observer/selection bias" phenomenon happening in this forum, and nothing more.<br><br>
But we really hear a lot about it here. We did a poll here a long time ago, and it was something like 9 out of 10 unvaxed kids here diagnosed with ASD had moms who got the shot. Not that that necessarily means anything...but still...
 

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She asked his neurologist about it and he totally thought she was a nut job! Lol. He said that even IF the rhogham contained mercury, there is no proof that mercury causes problems. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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And that's a neurologist talking! Time to put his medical license back in the Corn Flakes box.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">And that's a <span style="color:#FF0000;"><b>neurologist</b></span> talking! Time to put his medical license back in the Corn Flakes box.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
And they wonder why we doctor bash.
 
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