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<a href="http://www.ageofautism.com/2007/12/day-fourteen-au.html" target="_blank">http://www.ageofautism.com/2007/12/day-fourteen-au.html</a><br><br>
Lots of good stuff in this one. Are the actual transcripts up somewhere?<br><br><a href="ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html" target="_blank">ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html</a><br><br>
audio files or transcripts.<br><br>
The day numbers are a bit confusing. All three cases are in the numbers, but I'm still not sure how this comes out to day 14.<br><br>
But if you want to read the actual material being summarized on Age of Autism, go here: <a href="ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/hazlehurst/transcripts/DAY02.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/auti...ipts/DAY02.pdf</a><br>
(warning 183 pages)
 

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Many extremely good points. I hope I did not copy and past too diligently.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Thimerosal is 50% ethyl mercury, a type of organic mercury. Ethyl mercury is known to be highly neurotoxic, but the real question is whether it’s implicated in autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders.<br><br>
There have been questions raised about the differing effects of ethyl mercury and methyl mercury as to their relative toxicities.<br><br>
A study from the University of Washington showed that when ethyl mercury reaches the brain it converts to inorganic mercury seven times faster than methyl mercury. This was an overturning of previous understandings that methyl mercury was more neurotoxic than ethyl mercury.<br><br>
This finding raised significant questions about what we thought we knew about the effects of ethyl mercury.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">A recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine also raised some issues about early thimerosal exposure and neuropsychological outcomes.<br><br>
Although the study did not specifically look at autism, it found that children who received higher amounts of thimerosal were more likely to have motor and vocal tics, a common problem in a subset of children with autism.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Dr. Corbier believes the thimerosal caused his glutathione to be low, his porphyrins to be high, which then left him open to infection by the measles virus.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">This child was the first he’d seen who didn’t present with the typical indicators of heavy metal toxicity, but from parent report had developed significant tics after a vaccination.<br><br>
Dr. Corbeir chelated the child, took a urine sample, and found mercury. Not only did the child’s tics stop, but also the ADHD, as well as his other problems.<br><br>
That result gave Dr. Corbier the impetus to consider chelation in other patients, including those with autism.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Dr. Corbier replied it was commonly known that whole-cell pertussis contained three potent neurotoxins which could easily have caused a transient encephalopathy.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Ms. Renzi questioned whether he shared the concerns expressed by defense experts about the reliability of research published by Drs. Uhlman, Kawashima, Walker, and Wakefield regarding the gastro-intestinal problems of a subset of children with autism, and whether he shared those concerns.<br><br>
He had reviewed the criticisms, along with the work of those who supported the work, and found himself convinced that the named physicians had done reliable research.</td>
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Deborah, you would do yourself a great service by reading the full transcripts (or listening to them). When you do, I would be very interested in discussing them if you wish.<br><br>
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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Science Mom</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/9906614"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Deborah, you would do yourself a great service by reading the full transcripts (or listening to them). When you do, I would be very interested in discussing them if you wish.<br><br>
SM</div>
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Of all three cases? Or just the case being discussed in the blog I cited?
 

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Deborah, Are you referring to the Hazlehurst case? Which was the second test case to be heard:<br><a href="ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html" target="_blank">ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html</a><br>
That is the one I am reading now and it is only 4 days worth of testimony but it is still taking me forever to read.<br><br>
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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>Science Mom</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/9909346"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Deborah, Are you referring to the Hazlehurst case? Which was the second test case to be heard:<br><a href="ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html" target="_blank">ftp://autism.uscfc.uscourts.gov/autism/index.html</a><br>
That is the one I am reading now and it is only 4 days worth of testimony but it is still taking me forever to read.SM</div>
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Yes, the blog I pointed to is about the Hazlehurst case.
 
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