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Barring any unforseen fortune that befalls our family, our baby will have to go to daycare at 12 weeks. Not my first choice, or really my choice at all, but it is what it is <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:<br><br>
I am not worried about most childhood diseases Baby could get except pertussis. It scares the krap out of me. Will Baby be unduly harmed by not receiving the pertussis vax before 2 years of age seeing as she will be in a daycare environment? I will exclusively breastfeed/pump. I am lucky that VT has a philosophical exemption, but I don't want Baby hurt <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:<br><br>
Are there any other vaxes that might be important for a very young daycare baby?<br><br>
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IMO the best chance of a mild case or no case of wc is only if she has NO pertussis vaccine.<br><br>
This leaves her with the strongest immune system and the best was to avoid it or get over it.<br><br>
Should she ever get it, the best way to deal with it is to give her plenty of Vita C (sodium ascorbate). So, just keep that handy and you are all set.
 

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If I had to put my baby to daycare that young I really don't know what I'd do. Probaly at daycare she has a bigger risk of catching pertussis, the vax can make the disease milder. But then the vax has risks too. I think I may do one dose Dtap if I had to do daycare . I don't think the vax is very effective at preventing the disease but I do think it can reduce severity. Hugs Mama, what a hard decision. I really don't know.<br><br>
I would also do what Gitti suggests - lots of SA either way.
 

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You may want to research Hib, daycare children are at a higher risk of exposure to Hib.<br><br><a href="http://www.babycenter.com/0_the-hib-vaccine_1562.bc?Ad=com.bc.common.AdInfo%4063f8e9" target="_blank">http://www.babycenter.com/0_the-hib-...dInfo%4063f8e9</a><br><a href="http://www.immunize.org/hib/" target="_blank">http://www.immunize.org/hib/</a><br><br>
Good luck in your decision!
 

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Look at Hib but I wouldn't worry too much about it.<br><br>
Also, PM Peony. Her DD got pertussis as a new born (less than a month old I believe) and she can give you good info.<br><br>
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Unfortunately, getting sick--sometimes frequently--is a part of using daycare. It doesn't matter whether your child is vax'ed or not. But most often, it is colds and flus that your child will bring home. Also at that age, I would worry a bit about rotavirus (since recently vax'ed infants will be shedding it). Pertussis wouldn't be high on my list of worries, though.
 

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The Hib vaccine has not caused any lasting reduction in the overall number of bacterial meningitis cases. There are fewer cases of Hib meningitis, but now there are <i>more</i> cases of other Hi meningitis, so the vaccine is nearly useless at this point (the one benefit is that it has reduced the incidence of epiglottitis). It's called serotype replacement. It happened almost immediately with the pneumococcal vaccine (Prevnar) but it took a few years for the replacement effect to become evident with the Hib vaccine. It did happen, though, so there's really no point in giving the vaccine. You'd reduce your child's risk of Hib meningitis while increasing his/her risk of other forms of Hi meningitis. There's no benefit to that.
 

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Well ~ considering that babies at 12 weeks of age aren't fully vaxed for Pertussis protection anyways ~ either way it would be of concern. If it were me ~ I would start researching ways to boost baby's immune system to prepare it for the battle of germs baby will face at daycare. Read about how to prevent/treat pertussis.<br><br>
IMO ~ better to be prepared with how to treat pertussis than to worry with a vax that is extremely ineffective.<br><br>
As for HiB ~ I would no sooner get that vax than I would encourage a vax for the flu. Both are fairly useless at this point.<br><br>
I think the best road to go down is how to keep your child healthy ~ there are several books out there that have been recommended in this forum on how to keep your child healthy. It doesn't happen by accident ~ and it certainly doesn't happen by vaxing your child.
 

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The more I read about pertussis, the more manageable an experience it seems it will be when it visits our household. It doesn't look fun, and given how prevalent (and under-recognized) it seems, I am assuming it will make its presence known one day. But there are useful tips from other folks available, I think one good thread is Share your firsthand experiences with pertussis... or something like that.<br><br>
If you decided not to vaccinate for anything while putting your little one into daycare, you wouldn't be the only one. I did that with my son.<br><br>
And as a practical matter, he brought home a lot of colds, but as far as I could tell, nothing that was vaccinateable. But all the reading I did to learn to deal with the vaccinateable diseases came in handy with all the others, too, and made the colds a lot quicker and easier on us all.
 

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Have you looked for in-home care or a private provider. This would be the first thing I would do b/c baby would be much less likely to catch something if she is only around a smaller group of people. Ask around! You may be suprised at who is willing to babysit a baby for not much more than a daycare in order to stay home w/ their own child. Good Luck!
 

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My baby started at home daycare at 4 months old and he's never been vaccinated. He was exclusively breastfed until 7-8 months and still nurses now at 13 months. The only real illness he's had is the chicken pox he caught from ds1 (who caught it from the vaccinated kids at school).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The Hib vaccine has not caused any lasting reduction in the overall number of bacterial meningitis cases. There are fewer cases of Hib meningitis, but now there are <i>more</i> cases of other Hi meningitis, so the vaccine is nearly useless at this point (the one benefit is that it has reduced the incidence of epiglottitis). It's called serotype replacement. It happened almost immediately with the pneumococcal vaccine (Prevnar) but it took a few years for the replacement effect to become evident with the Hib vaccine. It did happen, though, so there's really no point in giving the vaccine. You'd reduce your child's risk of Hib meningitis while increasing his/her risk of other forms of Hi meningitis. There's no benefit to that.</div>
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From what digging I've done, the HiB vaccine appears to be effective and has at contributed to a reduction in the overall number of invasive HiB disease (though I think other factors were also reducing the incidence prior to the conjugate vaccines.) Before the vaccine I'd say there were probably at least 9K cases a year (though they say 20K.) Now there are about 2500 cases. Serotype replacement has happened but those strains are not making as many kids sick as the b serotype did. I don't think the vaccine is useless, though. It is one of the safer vaccines and in a daycare setting, I might consider it.<br><br>
If my babe was to be put in daycare at 12 weeks, I'd give DTaP and HiB on schedule. The DTaP shot, even if not effective after the first couple of doses DOES lessen severity of the disease. My son is almost 5 months old and at home with me - I still teeter on giving him these two shots now and then. I'm just not sure when. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thank you for all your replies!<br><br>
I am definitely going to be looking into home daycare rather than a center. This is Vermont - there's gotta be a nice hippie mom looking to make some extra dough <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
If anything, I'd vax for DTaP alone. Need to do more research on Hib.<br><br>
Thanks again!!
 
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