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I am signing with my 13mo dd. She has been signing "more" for a while now, and occassionally will repeat my sign for "eat" or "ball." A very few times she's repeated my sign for "milk." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
The problem is she signs "more" for everything...when she wants to nurse, when she wants more food at a meal, when she wants to play with something, when she wants something...so the signing I was praying would cut down on frustration is now just as bad as nothing. I can't tell what she wants when she signs "more" unless she's in her highchair and is eating or unless she is in the bed w/ me and wants to nurse.<br><br>
For a while when she signed "more" when coming up to me, I knew that meant "nurse" but now it could mean anything. And lately she's been nursing all the time, and I want to curb that a little. She seems to understand signs from me (when I say "sit down" and sign it, etc) but isn't repeating much. (Also, when she signs more to nurse, I say milk and make the sign and then nurse her).<br><br>
Any ideas on how to expand our vocabulary or at least get her beyond signing "more" for everything? I'm a little perplexed as to what to do.
 

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I don't know that I'll have a lot of advice, but my son (13 mos) does the same! He does have a few more signs, but "more" is the biggie and it can mean a lot of things. I decided that they don't have the same sense of time passing that we do, so don't understand that "more" means "more of what you just had/did" to us, it just means "more from last time!" Anyway, one thing that has really helped is that I ask, "more what?" and start pointing to things and saying things that he may mean. He has learned to point to things now when I say, "more what?" so that has really cut down on confusion. HTH!
 

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We've been signing since DS was about 10MO. (He is 25MO now)<br><br>
We started using 'more' and 'all done' at mealtimes. It was pretty easy to ask before almost every bite if he wanted "more food" or "all done food". Sometimes he would sign all done, and we immediately started to clean up - if he really meant MORE food, he would fuss, and we would say, "oh, you meant MORE food" and reinforce the sign for more, while offering more food. And the opposite if he signed "more food" but turned his head, or refused to eat, "oh, you meant ALL DONE food".<br><br>
That seemed to be the clearest way to teach what each sign meant because the response we gave was so immediate and he was either still hungry or not. And as he learned 'more' of something vs. 'all done' with something...it tranlated to all the other things he asked for MORE of. KWIM? (Do you want "more" ball or "all done" ball/nursing/bath?)<br><br>
I think consistency was the key at the beginning for us. I made sure that everyone around him was using signs all the time. (In addition to speaking the words)<br><br>
HTH!
 

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our son is 16.5 months old and we also went through the signing-more-for-everything phase. he didn't even do the sign for eat until a couple of weeks ago. it definitely seems like a developmental phase, that they are learning they can communicate and despite our offering them new signs, they are still trying to communicate with the only ones they understand.<br><br>
what we did was to learn a few more new signs for things he liked. (ball, doggie, book, shoes, sit, etc.) and start using those consistently. it definitely took a few weeks, but then he slowly started duplicating them back to us. the first was doggie, or it might have been ball since ball and shoes look very much like more the way he does them.<br><br>
also, does she do more in the actual way (fingertips together meeting in front) or does she do a modification (our son does one finger pointing into the palm of the other hand)? until this past week, shoes and ball looked exactly the same, so we had to look at the context of where he was when he was telling us something.<br><br>
keep showing signs, and learn a few more and start showing them. it may take some time, but at 16.5 months, our son has about a 25 word signing vocabulary, compared to his about 8 word spoken vocabulary.<br><br>
warmly,<br>
claudia
 

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When my DD does this she gets a lot of "More what?" out of me.
 

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Thank you so much...these responses really help. It's nice to know I'm not the only one. I just went from the euphoria of "she can sign!" & "she's communicating with me!" to having no idea what more means. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'll keep working on the other signs and asking "more what?" and pointing to things. I remember it took a while for her to sign more, but then she suddenly got it. I'll bet it will be that way with other signs, too.<br><br>
I appreciate the advice!
 

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Yes, you've all found out that "more" is not necessarily a helpful first sign. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Try teaching her signs for things she likes, like nurse, food (even specific foods), ball, cat, whatever. Object signs are much more helpful than "more". But at least you know she "get" it and is trying to communicate with you!
 

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LOL. my dd uses "milk" for everything!! It means everything from "i want to nurse" to "I want to go to the store". LOL
 

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My DS did this too. I did alot of the "more what?" and would go through different signs of what I thought he might want. He eventually caught on that "more" doesn't get him everything! He now uses quite a few signs correctly and rarely uses "more"!
 

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I took a baby sign class with Z and my friend who teaches the class said that's totally normal. What we were all advised to do was pick anywhere from 6-10 signs, 3-5 "needs" (signs like more, milk, all done) and 3-5 "motivators" (favorite things--dog, cat, ball, etc.) The key is to pick signs you'll use pretty frequently through your day. This class was for 6-24 months and they suggested fewer signs for the younger babies. (so like 6 for your 6 month old and 10 signs might be if you're working with someone 15 months or older, where they will typically pick it up fairly quickly.)<br><br>
What I could see my friend saying, and what I would advise is that you pick maybe a max of 5 other signs you know for other things that she usually means when she is signing "more". Stick with your 6 total signs (including more) until she picks up some of your new signs. (like you might pick 'milk' and a few signs for favorite toys or a favorite food. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> )<br><br>
The other thing my friend really stresses is it can take a few weeks with you signing frequently throughout the day for them to pick it up. (With a one-year-old, it might be a month. With my 6 mo. old, I was told to expect at least 2 months before seeing a sign back.) You may be with these 5 signs for a couple months. That's fine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> She *will* get it. On the other hand, she's got one, and it sounds like she occasionally does a couple others, so it may go faster!<br><br>
I'll play games with DS too, like tonight we were dancing with his toy CD player and I didn't put the music on and keep dancing till he signed 'more'. I KNEW he could do it, and he did! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> (More is a sign he's gotten pretty consistent with when it comes to food, I wanted to see if he could bring it into another context.) In class we did that a lot too, like one day it was balls, we'd play and then we'd stop until someone signed 'more' or 'ball' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> Usually works! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Worth a shot at least!
 

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ABSOLUTELY normal! (I am a baby sign language educator in KS <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> )<br><br>
Keep exposing her to new signs consistently and she will totally pick them up! This happens alot...just a sign she knows 'works'! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 
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