[MamatoPeach]

Had a check up today with OB, asked some questions. He said it doesnt make a difference with delayed cord clamping. Thats why they just clamp it right away. ?? Any thoughts?

 

[StephM76]

I think your OB just wants to convince you of that so he won't have to wait around until the cord stops pulsating to clamp it. It is proven that delayed cord clamping is beneficial to the newborn.

 

[treehugginmama]

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Originally Posted by StephM76 I think your OB just wants to convince you of that so he won't have to wait around until the cord stops pulsating to clamp it. It is proven that delayed cord clamping is beneficial to the newborn.

agreed.

 

[completebeginnings]

Yep...bogus! just google it. I recently had this discussion a friend of mine whose husband was doing his OB rotation as part of his physician assistant rotations. He brought up what I said. The OB didn't believe him so they went and googled it and the doctor was shocked by the research showing positive results for delayed cord clamping. It is standard procedure to allow cord to pulse for 3 min. in a premie but they haven't made it standard for a term baby. Seems interesting....1/3 of your babies blood is not in it's body when it is born. The cord self regulates how much blood the baby needs then coagulates and stops pulsing. Be careful that you OB dosen't "milk the cord", push blood from the cord into the baby with his fingers, as this can cause the baby to have too much blood and a greater chance of jaundice. I have seen impatient doctors do this trying to show the parents that the cord has stopped pulsating. I have also seen them lie and tell the parents it has but hasn't. That happened at a birth recently and dad acutally reached down and felt the cord and felt it pulsing and told the doctor to wait longer. It was great seeing them so empowered. Also once they cut the cord they will want to move the baby away from you. Just something to thing about. They can resuscitate and do suction on moms tummy but they don't like too. Also a baby who is still attached to the cord can come around slower since it is still getting blood and oxygen from mom.

 

[MamatoPeach]

Good information!! Thanks ladies!

 

[Sungold17]

If you flip that around to your oB its like saying "well in that case it doesn't do any harm, so do it because I request it!" Of coarse will he really delay clamping and cutting?

 

[MamatoPeach]

Exactly I feel like I have been preaching to my husband all the things he needs to look at for. "Dont let them cut it until it stops pulsing!!" "Dont let them give the bath" "Dont let them give any shots!!!" I am more worried about what they are going to do to my baby then actually pushing a baby out!

 

[threadbey]

This is why I

: homebirth! But I know that's not everyone's cup of tea or possible, so it's important to do the research. Everything I've read says yes delayed clamping is important. Why would a Dr. be so impatient he can't handle waiting less than 5 minutes to cut the cord? And, yeah, cutting the cord in order to take a non-breathing infant away and resucitate it just sounds crazy to me. It's not breathing, so we're going to cut off its oxygen supply and THEN go try to get it breathing?????

 

[mysticmomma]

ask for studies etc that support his statement.

 

[midwifer]

Have you thought about seeing a provider who is more in tune with your beliefs?

 

[claddaghmom]

Just on a plane of logic, delayed clamping makes sense. Right when the baby is born, you don't know if there are any difficulties.

Whenever I watch hospital births, I always yell at the screen after the birth...they just yank the kid out, cut the cord (sometimes someone else is cutting the cord before the feet are even out!!) and then scrubbing the baby down like a dirty vegetable about to be cooked.

Give the baby a chance to take a breath lol.

 

[MamaMem]

::crashing from June...::

I saw the title in the outlayer and had to come tell you my experience. My baby was born via emergency c-sec. At 9 mo he was so anemic he was in the range of causing brain damage. I had never heard of this but my Ped (whom I adore!!) gave me info on how something like 75% of c-sec babies are anemic by 9 mo and 95% of emergency c-sec babies are bc they clamp the cord too soon. How did they prove this was the problem? The literature quoted a study done in several 3rd World countries where they have fixed this infant anemia problem... they delay cord clamping. ::TaDa!! no duh::

My boy was always very cold as a tiny one and at 20 mo is still easily cold. He has been through gobs of chlorophyl to bring up his iron which helped, but it is still a problem.

Stick to you guns and ^^ like someone else said "if it makes no difference, do as I say".

 

[love4acr]

I totally agree with the other posters in that delayed cord clamping is best for baby (most inconvenient for caregivers though, lol). I hoped for a lotus birth with my last baby (never cut the cord), but only made it to day 3 before I broke down and cut it.

Obviously a red flag went up in your gut when this topic of discussion came up or you never would have posted here. If you're going to be receiving care through an ob (or midwife or CNM or anyone for that matter) that doesn't mean that you have to take everything they tell you for truth. We mommas have so many valuable resources at our fingertips, there's just no reason we can't educate our own selves without relying on the opinions of the "professional" birth attendants. Take control of your own birth!!!

 

[Serenyd]

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Originally Posted by completebeginnings Yep...bogus! just google it. I recently had this discussion a friend of mine whose husband was doing his OB rotation as part of his physician assistant rotations. He brought up what I said. The OB didn't believe him so they went and googled it and the doctor was shocked by the research showing positive results for delayed cord clamping. It is standard procedure to allow cord to pulse for 3 min. in a premie but they haven't made it standard for a term baby. Seems interesting....1/3 of your babies blood is not in it's body when it is born. The cord self regulates how much blood the baby needs then coagulates and stops pulsing. Be careful that you OB dosen't "milk the cord", push blood from the cord into the baby with his fingers, as this can cause the baby to have too much blood and a greater chance of jaundice. I have seen impatient doctors do this trying to show the parents that the cord has stopped pulsating. I have also seen them lie and tell the parents it has but hasn't. That happened at a birth recently and dad acutally reached down and felt the cord and felt it pulsing and told the doctor to wait longer. It was great seeing them so empowered. Also once they cut the cord they will want to move the baby away from you. Just something to thing about. They can resuscitate and do suction on moms tummy but they don't like too. Also a baby who is still attached to the cord can come around slower since it is still getting blood and oxygen from mom.

 

[fyrebloom]

Danger danger Will Robinson. I had a Dr who insisted it didn't make a difference so she cut it anyway even though I told her not to. Make sure he understands you mean BUSINESS that you will not allow cord clamping because in the heat of things, they will sometimes do what they please and you're too helpless to stop them because you're tied up in the bed and have not control.

I've had Drs try to convince me that a cord clamped too late will cause jaundice. This is a lie of course. Just one more reason I'm homebirthing!

 

[kjs]

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Originally Posted by MamatoPeach Exactly I feel like I have been preaching to my husband all the things he needs to look at for. "Dont let them cut it until it stops pulsing!!" "Dont let them give the bath" "Dont let them give any shots!!!" I am more worried about what they are going to do to my baby then actually pushing a baby out!

In my experience this is when the birthing plan is really, really important. AFTER THE BIRTH!! During labor my husband acted as my advocate as far as non-medicated birth etc. We had a birthing plan which we posted in the room. After the labors we were so blissed out and tired that it was nice to have it in writing, due to the fact that we were not exactly super high -energy and on top of it. I found that the 3 am check-ins were the most annoying- my husband kept having to tell them that when the baby is nursing is NOT the right time to strip their swaddling off and weigh them or do hearing tests, etc.!!! But all of the nurses knew from the get go- no silver in the eyes, no formula ever

, no shots, the father will cut the cord which we will let pulse, etc. Also a doula can be a great advocate for these things too.

 

[philomom]

I had a hospital birth with my amazing CNM. She was totally on board with allowing the cord to do its thing. She said " babies need all their blood".Both of my babies cords stopped pulsating in the 7-10 minute time frame.

 

[MamatoPeach]

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Originally Posted by midwifer Have you thought about seeing a provider who is more in tune with your beliefs?

He is a good guy, and willing to work with my wants/needs. I just dont think he is educated on the topic. Wouldnt it be cool if he took the opportunity to do some of his own research. I pay him enough, don't you think?

 

[evenstarlight]

I wanted to wait last time but they cut the chord because the baby had pooed inside me during the pushing phase so they said they "had to" any thoughts? (these were midwives in the UK)

Also the head midwife claimed that they had seen an increase in the number of jaundice babies since they'd started waiting to cut the chord. Any ideas why this would happen???

 

[threadbey]

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Originally Posted by evenstarlight I wanted to wait last time but they cut the chord because the baby had pooed inside me during the pushing phase so they said they "had to" any thoughts? (these were midwives in the UK) Also the head midwife claimed that they had seen an increase in the number of jaundice babies since they'd started waiting to cut the chord. Any ideas why this would happen???

No idea on the poo. Sounds odd to me. Maybe they felt they needed to take the baby away and suction?

I thought the jaundice thing might actually be true, but this website (which looks pretty reputable and quotes a bunch of studies and has a bunch of interesting looking links and also doesn't list poo as a reason to cut quickly

) says otherwise:

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You may be told that delayed clamping causes jaundice in babies by your carer or hospital. This is not true. Babies are no more likely to become jaundiced by delaying cord clamping and there is no relation to jaundice and the time of the cord being clamped. In the studies, the bilirubin levels were within normal range no matter when the cord was clamped. (Excess bilirubin levels are what is associated with jaundice).

I would also say that lots of people (especially in my parents' generation) talk about jaundice as if it is some horrible scary thing. Certainly, I have heard stories of dangerous jaundice levels requiring treatment (which is done by exposure to sunlight or artificial light of the same wavelength). But from what I understand, a "little" jaundice is normal and not a concern. DS was a little jaundiced, but we didn't have to do anything about it. Never even got it tested, the pediatrician just commented that he was slightly yellow but nothing to worry about.