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Hi Smilemomma... I have been reading the archives as much as I can and they are amazing!!! Thank you!<br><br>
I had discovered 4 cavities in my daughters teeth 5 months ago and took her to the dentist. He advised us to change our routine... add tap water, brush w/ flouride (tiny amount) toothpaste, cut out raisins and organic fruit chews (which she used to love) and continue to water down juice.<br><br>
We just got back fron our 2nd app. with out family dentist. She now has more cavaties in her new molars (so 8 molar cavities)... and holes (with no black) in her front teeth along the gumline. He said she has weak enamel and she has an app in 2 days with a pediatric dentist that was recommended.<br><br>
She did amazing today for a 25 month old... opened her mouth let him probe with tool and mirror. No crying at all. Just got off the phone w/ the new dentist... they do not put kids under but use gas and a mild sedative. They will access and recommend a plan over a series of visits.<br><br>
My questions are... would it be easier on her to have her put under and do them all at once? Do I need to watch out for certain kinds of gas or sedatives? I am in Canada and they do composite fillings so no worries there. What about X-rays???<br><br>
She is still nursing and no one seems to have a problem with that... thank maude!!!<br><br>
I have many more questions but know many of them will be answered in the archives... and these ones seems like an emergency (to me)! And as a SAHWM I get very little time to research on the computer!!<br><br>
Thank you so much!
 

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Green tea has natural floride that is really good for their teeth. You can buy decaf and if she doesn't like it mix it with a little bit of juice
 

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Sorry, something happened....My son had cavities in all his upper teeth. I would vote do them all at once. That's what they did with my son and it really saved on the trama and the likelyhood of him hating the dentist.<br><br>
It wasn't a general, I forget what it was, though. Concious sedation? Anyway, I would do it again if I found myself in the same position.
 

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I am sorry, but I just have to say this. Fluoride is a poison, and there is no scientific proof that it strengthens teeth against tooth decay.<br><br><br>
It's a byproduct of the fertilizer industry, and filtering it thru the human kidney is a great way of getting rid of it, especially as they get paid for it.<br><br><br><br>
Fluoride is the active ingredient of psychotropic drugs like prozac. It numbs people to their emotions due to it's effect on a part of the brain called the hippocampus. It makes people more docile.<br><br><br>
Very few countries in the world still add fluoride to their water supplys. Tooth decay is much the same in different countries.<br><br><br>
Diet has a more important bearing on dental decays. Yes, too much fruit juice, and sugar in general.. But that is only part of it. Getting enough minerals in general is a crucial factor, and how good the digestion is, which is usually dependent on general health.<br><br>
More children are haveing weak enamel these days because their general health is not as strong as previous generations, and because they eat more sugar and bad fats.<br><br><br>
Giving your d. a bit of seaweed every day would help her in the long run. This replenishes the mineral supply.
 

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Are you denying then Smilemomma that fluoride is not the active ingredient in prozac? Or that it is a byproduct of the fertilizer industry? Because if you are, you are not very well informed;and you simply don't know the facts.<br><br><br>
And also I think it is an obvious fact that diet and digestion play a big role in how strong our bones are, and thus our teeth ( which of course are part of the skeleton, or rather, are specialised extensions of it). Have you heard of rickets? Do you deny that lack of vitamins and minerals in the diet can have a negative effect on bone-structure?
 

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Actually, Smilemomma ... Aquaduct is correct.<br><br><a href="http://www.naturalrearing.com/J_In_Learning/Diet/Water/FLUORIDE.htm" target="_blank">http://www.naturalrearing.com/J_In_L...r/FLUORIDE.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/" target="_blank">http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/</a><br><br><a href="http://64.177.90.157/science/html/effective_.html" target="_blank">http://64.177.90.157/science/html/effective_.html</a><br><br>
I mean, c'mon. Have you ever read a tube of toothpaste?<br><br>
"WARNINGS: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek PROFESSIONAL HELP or contact a POISON CONTROL center immediately."<br><br>
I mean, hell, if the FDA requires this warning on ALL toothpastes that contain fluoride, isn't that a MAJOR heads up?<br><br>
Fluoride is a toxic drug not meant for human consumption. Period.<br><br>
Goddess forbid, I'm probably going to get slammed for this comment, but .. it really seems the only people that still adamantly push it are those that see negligable monetary profit from the sale and usage of it - the ADA, mainly.<br><br>
adding fluoride to water supplies is just a contrivance to dispose of waste byproducts from the fertilizer and aluminium industries. (Fluoridation: A Cash Crop for Industrial Pollution - Weber State University)
 

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my son and daughter had spots of weak enamel, and we had it fixed two ways. my then 4 year old daughter had a bonding material put in the hole in her tooth much like a filling. she had to have minimal drilling, but it was so fast, and we had an excellent ped dentist, who got her thru it drug free. she was great, no trauma, and the tooth held up until it fell out naturally.<br><br>
my son was much youger, and a tooth chipped due to it's weakness and left a very sharp piece in it's place. his other front tooth was also compromised, having grown in with some missing enamel. i felt so bad, but the dentist assured me this is a genetic condition. we had my son put under GA to fix them, and they ended up being pulled instead of fixed due to a sight infection starting way up in the tooth. the GA was very light as these things go, and he came thru it just fine. the procedure was at 7am. by 1pm he was home and running around the yard with his gappy smile as if nothing had happened. i recommend the one shot deal.<br><br>
i was middle of the road about fluoride. i gave it sporadically (2x/week) to my kids when they were older, not as babies. our ped dentist does the fluoride treatment at the office, where they put a cream on the teeth and rinse it off after 60 seconds. this is twice a year, and not ingested, so maybe an alternative for those of us who see some value in its use.
 

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Playfulmama, Did you make a decision for treatment? It is such a personal decision between GA and office sedation. I opted for office sedation with my dd. Yes, it was traumatic at 2 1/4 and 2 3/4. But now at almost 4 years, she loves her dentist and does fine at the appointments. So the fear for life thing is not a factor with every one.<br>
As for the flouride controversy.......I don't think that we should be swallowing/ingesting flouride. But I do believe that used in small amounts topically on the teeth and then spit out can be beneficial.<br>
Too much of anything can have toxic effects....
 

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Hey mamas - let's keep posts to the questions asked by Playfulmamma in her opening post. If you want to discuss the merits and dangers of flouride, please start another thread for that purpose.<br><br>
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The best thing you can do for strengthening teeth is get your chn. to take colloidal minerals, eat seaweed daily, and get a bit of sun, as well as brushing of course. Fluoride obviously hasn't helped, has it.
 
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