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<p>Thought I would see if anyone else was pregnant and diabetic or find they have gestational diabetes.  I thought it would be good to have a support group.</p>
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<p>I had gestational diabetes at the end of my ds's pregnancy and found out last July after my second mc that I was diabetic.  So, this is all new to me and I have to keep tight control while pregnant, esp. the first 8wks when high blood sugar can cause defects. </p>
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<p>So far I am doing really well.  My bs was high after indulging from Christmas and I couldn't get it below 250 so I called my doctor and got put back on insulin again.  I need to keep it between 70 and 90 for fasting blood glucose in the am and then under 130 an hour and a half after meals.  My morning numbers are within the range, but I'm having a hard time getting my after meal numbers to be under 130.  I think yesterday I just couldn't get breakfast on the table fast enough and my liver dumped and I had a higher reading after breakfast.</p>
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<p>I have never tested + for gestational but have some risk factors (overweight and history of BIG babies) so I am wanting to follow the recommendations for GD, I think it is a healthy plan anyways! Looking for ideas and methods for how to make the diet changes easier ~ I have been having nausea so eating isn't up on the list righ now.  My plan is to keep the good foods avail and walk daily.  any good sites, ideas? what do you do that works well?  How do you resist temptation? I just want a warm slice of toast with butter and jam dammit!</p>
 

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<p>Thought I'd post the info for anyone else here that I just sent Carrie.</p>
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<p>I would love to share any info I have with you.  I usually eat just protein, fat and veggies.  Very little fruit if any at all.  I only eat it when I crave it and only a piece or two.  I don't eat any carbs at all and I try to take a walk after every meal or do one of my exercise routines or get on the elliptical when its not too cold out (its in the carport, brrr). </p>
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<p>Here is an example of what I eat so that it makes more sense:  I usually drink about a 1/2 c. of whole milk with each meal.</p>
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<p>Breakfast: 1 to 2 eggs, with one or both leftover squash and or mushrooms in them, 1 piece of sausage, then I grind 1 Tbls of flaxseed and sprinkle it over my eggs. (the flaxseed has lots of omega 3's and is really good at helping regulate blood sugar, you can eat it by itself instead of sprinkling it over your eggs, its just preference and you can get them already ground if you don't have a grinder)</p>
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<p>Snacks: 2 deviled eggs, 1 hardboiled egg, big spoonful of almond butter with or without carrots or cellery, mixed nuts,  or flaxseed pancake (I will attach the recipe, so good and so easy to make).  These are all examples and I usually have to eat one or two of these before lunch.  I don't seem to be able to go anymore than about an 1 and a half to 2 hours without being super hungry.</p>
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<p>Lunch: 1 organic hot dog, black beans, cheese, cut up mixed and heated together with a salad.  Or salad with any kind of meat. Or leftovers, or something I would eat at dinner, just depends on what you have on hand, basically meat, veggies, and beans or something like that.</p>
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<p>Snacks: same as above</p>
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<p>Dinner: Cheeseburger with all the fixin's with the exception of a bun or ketchup.  I usually put onion, pickle, avocado, sprouts, mayo and wrap it in lettuce.  I usually have some cooked squash with butter and cinnamon or beans or something that make me feel full.  Butternut Squash soup is a good one too.  We make a fabulous 7 layer dip and eat it with a salad instead of chips.  Chicken with veggies.  We usually cook our veggies in oil or butter.  I've been cooking a lot of bok choy lately in a pan with butter.  Super yummy.  Meat balls with less than 2 grams of sugar sauce, with steamed collards with onion (with olive oil and then a splash of basamic vinegar at the end) or some kind of veggie.  Stir fry without rice. </p>
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<p>Snack: 1.5 hrs after dinner.  I try to eat dinner by 7pm. </p>
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<p>Then about 12 - 1am I eat a deviled egg and then eat a spoonful of almond butter between 2-4 am or whenever I wake up.  Mixed nuts seems to not like my stomach that early in the am, so I usually eat something soft, cheese and milk would work too, though milk alone wouldn't be enough for me. </p>
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<p><a href="http://ginnyslowcarbkitchen.blogspot.com/%C2%A0" target="_blank">http://ginnyslowcarbkitchen.blogspot.com/ </a> this is a great site and also there is a great recipe <a>here</a> for cauliflower pizza, so good and even my ds gobbled it up.  Below is the flax seed pancake mix, I double it and split it in half for my dh and I to share, he loves them too.</p>
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<p><span class="highlight">Flax</span> <span class="highlight">Seed</span> <span class="highlight">cakes</span><br><br>
1 egg<br>
1 tablespoon oil (or butter, I like butter better)<br>
1 tablespoon water or milk<br>
Mix well, add<br><br>
2 tablespoons milled <span class="highlight">flax</span> <span class="highlight">seed</span><br>
1/2 tablespoon coconut flour (not necessary but I like it)<br>
a good pinch of salt</p>
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I use a small cast iron skillet, add a touch of oil heat it well add mixture and cook until the edges look like they are cooking then turn the heat off and cover tightly. It continue cooking while I prepare breakfast for my husband. When I take the cover off it is a nice little pancake like thing but puffier. I cut it in ¼'s then slice it. Really gives the 'bread' feel I have been craving. I don't know what it does to my BG but many people here say they eat tons of the seeds per day, so I am thinking it is kind to BG.<br><br>
When I made it in the microwave it turned out flat & gray. Yucky! Now it is pully and golden brown, or dark brown depending on how long I left it cook on the first side. It is very easy to make. Delicious with Splenda and cinnamon.<br><br>
At first I used the dark <span class="highlight">flax</span> <span class="highlight">seed</span> that WalMart carries but this month I bought Golden <span class="highlight">Flax</span> <span class="highlight">Seed</span> from the health food store barrels. Put it in the blender and processed a little at a time until finely milled. Flavor is better</p>
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<p>Easy <span class="yshortcuts" id="user_lw_1294845435_0" style="border-bottom:2px dotted rgb(54,99,136);background:transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%;">Butternut Squash Soup</span> (so good)<br><br>
2 T butter or <span class="yshortcuts" id="user_lw_1294845435_1">olive oil</span><br>
3-4 <span class="yshortcuts" id="user_lw_1294845435_2" style="background:transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%;">cloves of garlic</span><br>
1/2 - 1 c chopped onion<br>
2 1/2 - 3 lbs butternut squash, halved, seeded, and baked until soft<br>
4 c chicken stock<br>
1 bay leaf<br>
pinch of sugar (I omit this, it doesn't really need it)<br>
1/2 t or more curry powder<br>
pinch of nutmeg<br>
salt and pepper to taste<br>
2 cups of milk<br><br>
Heat butter or olive oil in large saucepan over medium flame.  Add garlic and onions; cook, stirring often, 7-10 minutes.  Puree the cooked squash in a food processor and stir into onion mixture.  Stir in stock, bay leaf, sugar, curry powder, nutmeg, salt, and pepper.  Simmer 20-30 minutes.  Remove bay leaf.  Add the milk; heat but don't boil.  This is adapted from <span style="font-style:italic;">The Complete Book of Soups and Stews,</span> by Bernard Clayton.  Makes 6 servings.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps.  Cathy</p>
 

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<p>I wanted to also post this really good recipe for flaxseed brownies.  It makes a whole pan that lasts me awhile.  I break them up in a bowl and put whole milk over them.  Yum!</p>
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<p><a href="http://cathyanddave.blogspot.com/2010/10/flaxseed-brownies-yum-new-diabetic.html" target="_blank">Flaxseed Brownies</a></p>
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<p>You'll be amazed at how good this food tastes especially after getting over your sweet cravings and these brownies will help.  Seems though with this recipe I have a hard time finding really green bananas, but I've used bananas that were mostly green and they worked and they didn't spike my blood sugar.  Find what you can, but be careful not too eat too much of these at one time at first, they really get your intestines moving because of the prunes in them. <span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>So, I had a glucose screening on Monday and my numbers were too high (151/ they want under 135). So, I need to fast and then doing a 3 hour glucose tolerence test tomorrow. I am not looking forward to going so long without food or water. The lab is an hour away, so I am going to use up 5 + hours for this testing...<img alt="irked.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/irked.gif"> I guess that I just have to do it though. Wish me luck. I am seriously concerned that I will throw up and be a wreck after drinking the glucose crap with no food in my stomach.</p>
 

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<p>Good luck to you when you test, cparkly! Thanks for all the great food ideas, Cathy! <span><img alt="orngbiggrin.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif"></span></p>
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<p><span>I passed the 3 hour by the skin of my teeth with my first pg, then failed it and got the diagnosis with my second pg.</span> This time around my OB ordered the test early -- 15 weeks? -- and I failed the 1 hour and baaaarely passed the 3 hour. I am re-testing next appt @ 28 weeks. It's a lot of overkill IMO because I have a glucometer and I am already spot-checking my #s. I pretty much expect to fail next time around.</p>
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<p>My #s are good if I eat right and crappy if I don't. I eat well about 85% of the time. And exercise has a huge impact on my #s. Huge.</p>
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<p>Things I am eating these days:</p>
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<p>boiled eggs/egg salad</p>
<p>nuts</p>
<p>avocado</p>
<p>taco salad sans carbs</p>
<p>other meat/protein salads</p>
<p>lots of meat & veg meals</p>
<p>cottage cheese</p>
<p>greek yogurt</p>
<p>the occasional apple or berries</p>
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<p>I do really well unless we go out. Today we went to a pizza restaurant for lunch and I ate a big salad and 1/2 a piece of pizza. My 2 hour # was 118.</p>
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<p>I track my food on FitDay and I like to hit about 100 grams of carb and 100 grams of protein in a day. And enough fat to keep me satiated.</p>
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<p>Thanks for starting this thread -- it will be good accountability for me! <span><img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>Now, I am waiting...<img alt="rolleyes.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"> I called this morning for the results of Thursday's tests. But, the nurse (they only have 1??) was in a training class and will have to call me back. I am typically a fairly patient person, but I do not like to have tests performed and then have to wait for the results to be given to me at their convenience. It was easy to not think about it this weekend, while we were camping. But, I want to know now.</p>
 

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<p>I got the results and all looks "normal". So, I guess that I was just one of those women who had a false positive on the screening. Thank you for you well-wishes. I will continue on eating the way that I do; fresh, whole foods, cooked at home, a handful of kettle-cooked potato chips every now and then, and the necessary weekly ice cream cone! <img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif"> I will be more careful about juice drinking. I was drinking 8-10 oz. a day for some reason. I just craved cold, cranberry juice.</p>
 

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<p>Congratulations! That's great news. <span><img alt="orngbiggrin.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif"></span><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>cparkly</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1290784/diabetic-gestational-diabetes-moms-thread#post_16499934"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I got the results and all looks "normal". So, I guess that I was just one of those women who had a false positive on the screening. Thank you for you well-wishes. I will continue on eating the way that I do; fresh, whole foods, cooked at home, a handful of kettle-cooked potato chips every now and then, and the necessary weekly ice cream cone! <img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif"> I will be more careful about juice drinking. I was drinking 8-10 oz. a day for some reason. I just craved cold, cranberry juice.</p>
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<p>I am newly pregnant and my doctor mentioned today that she wanted to put me on insulin because my fasting numbers were too high and she wanted them under 95 . i really want to avoid insuin, can anyone help me figure this out?</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Goddess3_2005</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1290784/diabetic-gestational-diabetes-moms-thread#post_16500246"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I am newly pregnant and my doctor mentioned today that she wanted to put me on insulin because my fasting numbers were too high and she wanted them under 95 . i really want to avoid insuin, can anyone help me figure this out?</p>
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Well, being newly pregnant with higher numbers you may not be able to avoid insulin at all.  I was off insulin before I got pregnant, but because pregnancy floods your body full of glucose from all the hormones and needing to eat more its really hard to avoid.  Heading into my third trimester my insulin needs have gone up almost every other day.  Baby is growing and placenta are working hard and my body is trying to keep up.  I think its wiser to try the insulin route just to keep your body healthy during pregnancy.  There are several diets you can try, but if its up this early you might just need to be on it during pregnancy.  If you go over to the diabetesforum.com and go to the gestational diabetes part of the forum, there are lots of helpful threads there.</p>
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<p>Just had my glucose screening and the results are back that I'm GD. I was with DD, diet and exercise controlled luckily, so my midwife is not too concerned as long as I can get my numbers under control in a week or two. If not, then the insulin pump comes out!</p>
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<p>Of course, now that I can't snack as I'd like, I'm sitting here waiting until I can eat dinner. I'm starving! But, being careful of what I eat and exercising made me very healthy last time, not many people can say they came out of the hospital looking the best they had since marriage. Good luck everyone.</p>
 

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<p>librarymommy, sorry about your dx!! But you have an awesome attitude. Here's hoping diet and exercise do the trick for your #s.</p>
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<p>I have my next (and last!) GTT a week from today. I'm hoping for the best but I always fail the 1-hours. If I fail it, I think I am just going to decline the 3 hour, even though I might pass it by a hair. I really loathe the 3-hour test. I already have my glucometer in heavy use anyway. <span><img alt="eyesroll.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/eyesroll.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>Earlier this week I had my 1-hour screening test and scored 141, my MW's cutoff is 140.  Seriously!?  Yesterday I went in and did the 3-hour test, which was not fun.  Making a pregnant woman fast for 12 hours and then drink an absurd amount of glucose on an empty stomach, no wonder I felt sick and lightheaded.  I got my readings which turned out to be normal, I am a bit relieved.  But honestly I was pretty surprised when the first one came back high.  I have no risk factors and had a baby 13 months ago and didn't have GD with him.  I really feel like this screening has some major flaws and there had to be a better way.  Ugg, I was more annoyed than anything.  I guess the positive aspect of this was that It did make me reassess my diet and remember to focus on eating healthy, like we all should be doing all the time right <span><img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/smile.gif"></span></p>
 

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<p>I agree that doing that test is close to torture. I get lightheaded after a regular fasting blood test, but not being able to eat at all for several hours!!! After the second hour draw, I was going to take dd and go to the toy store in the same plaza to pass the hour before the next blood draw; I got into the store, and realized I was about to pass out! My poor dd had to spend the hour watching me lie down at the OB's office with a cold cloth on my head. Luckily she was very good, and as soon as I finished the last one I gobbled down some crackers and had lunch.</p>
 

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<p>I've brought this up in another thread.  This test and the urine test for glucose really need to be replaced by an A1c or a fructosamine test.  Both are accumulative. A1c gives an average over 3 months and the fructosamine gives an average over 2.  Being diabetic I get the fructosamine while I'm pregnant so I can be tested more often.  The glucose test is bunk and should be replaced by one easy early morning fasting A1c or fructosamine.  Making moms suffer is just ridiculous.</p>
 

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<p>Glad i'll have some support here if i wind up with GD. I failed the 1 hr and passed the 3 hr with both other pregnancies> I failed the 1 hour GTT (151- needed to be under 140) and have to go in next thursday for the 3 hr test.</p>
 

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<p>I was diagnosed too. Apparently a fasting blood sugar of 103 is too high to take the test and automatically gets you a GD diagnosis. I'm totally pouting because I never had any issue with the old guidelines and this is my fourth pregnancy. I haven't spoken to a nutritionist yet, still waiting for them to call with the appointment, but I'm having one heck of a time trying to figure out what to eat as a lacto-ovo vegetarian. So far I've been eating a lot of eggs, cheese, raw veggies, and fruit. It seems that most diabetics eat meat, meat, and more meat.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Lexi_029</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1290784/diabetic-gestational-diabetes-moms-thread#post_16528636"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I was diagnosed too. Apparently a fasting blood sugar of 103 is too high to take the test and automatically gets you a GD diagnosis. I'm totally pouting because I never had any issue with the old guidelines and this is my fourth pregnancy. I haven't spoken to a nutritionist yet, still waiting for them to call with the appointment, but I'm having one heck of a time trying to figure out what to eat as a lacto-ovo vegetarian. So far I've been eating a lot of eggs, cheese, raw veggies, and fruit. It seems that most diabetics eat meat, meat, and more meat.</p>
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<p>True.  Meat really does well with blood sugar.  Eggs do really well too though.  We have chickens and make a lot of different things with them.  Can't wait for zucchini in the garden and then I can start making frittatas.<br>
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<p>Has anyone else encountered the "new" much stricter guidelines for blood levels? I had GD with my first pregnancy, my son was born 18 months ago. At that time I was supposed to keep my fasting levels under 95 and my one hour postprandials under 140. I had no problem with that and only had to change my breakfasts, the remainder of my tests were fine without any changes. Insulin was never even mentioned, and when I first went on the diet I was given 2 weeks to test my blood, adjust to the new regulations, and test out what types of food affected me so I could adjust before they started evaluating me. I have GD in my second pregnancy as well, but we've moved out of state and have a new HMO. It just adopted much stricter guidelines just 6 months ago. Now I'm supposed to keep my fasting levels under 90 and my one hour postprandials under 120. When I first began testing my blood I called because I believed I had a defective meter, I got two readings within 5 minutes, one at 185 and the other at 105. Instead of addressing my concerns, they tried to put me on insulin immediately! I refused and demanded a chance to get my blood levels under their levels with diet and exercise. I was able to do so, but they've insisted on prescribing insulin for me anyways so it's "ready when I need it," since they're so sure I'll need it eventually. I'm already 32 weeks, there is no sign at all that my child is large, and my first baby was born 5 weeks early and was 5lbs 1oz. Had he gone to term he still would have been under 7lbs -- in other words, he was not a big baby and there's no reason at all to believe that my current pregnancy is trending large. I'm finding these guidelines extremely stressful, especially since I've read the 2010 study on which the change was based and it has no conclusive reason for the change, just a vague comment that there is no bright line glucose level at which macrosomic babies begin. Because we're in an HMO and the entire group is required to adhere to the same guidelines, changing doctors isn't really an option, though I have managed to switch to a doctor in the practice who is marginally more sympathetic to my concerns. But even she doesn't understand why I want to stay off insulin -- not only do I not want to inject myself in the stomach, studies show that women with GD on insulin are more likely to become diabetic in the future (though the chicken and egg question of whether they needed the insulin because they were higher risk or if they became higher risk because of the insulin has not been studied) and also gain weight much more rapidly than women without insulin. I take the concerns related to GD seriously, but they primarily focus on the macrosomic baby concern. Women without GD have a 12% of having a macrosomic baby, while women with GD have a 20% of having one. While that's clearly an increase, it hardly demonstrates that a diagnosis of GD means that you'll have a macrosomic baby. Sorry, I'm ranting a bit, but I've found the past month that I've been dealing with this REALLY frustrating. Especially now, I have a bad cold from my toddler. Illness raises your glucose levels. Mine are still under 95 for fasting and are fine for all postprandials, but they're STILL talking about insulin, even for this temporary and explainable rise in levels. I'm scared every time I test my blood now. Neither I nor my baby need this stress.</p>
 
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