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Dd is 20 mo. and basically doesn't say anything although she can and does on rare occasion and it always seems accidental. She signs and communicates by physically, demonstrating what she wants etc. I would love to hear from mamas of older kids who didn't talk till 2 or beyond to hear how/when they did begin talking and how they are now.
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My youngest didn't talk until he was two. Once he started, of course, it was constant! :LOL He had trouble with the "L" sound, which isn't unusual, and still has some trouble with a few blends, but otherwise he's just a chatterbox.

My older two spoke early, and I don't remember them having any particular trouble with sounds, so this was a new thing for me.
 

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my ds didn't was only putting two words together at 3, we thought he was a late talker. My dd, (oldest), was an early talker. We think he just was sponging everything up and big Sis said alot for him too :LOL
We were a little worried and he qualified for a special preschool program through our public school. But, now that the year is over, I don't attribute his non stop talking to school really, I think he just didn't have much to say. And of course, I heard the comments "he's a boy, they are slower to speak"
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Poo on them. He is fine fine fine!! He'll be four in September and is not only speaking clearly, but has quite the vocab too!
It's hard not to worry, esp. if you have others that did speak earlier.
HTH.
 

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Albert Einstein didn't start talking until he was 3. I didn't speak until I was 10...One day, my mom gave me a bowl of soup. I took one taste, and I told her that it was cold. Mom was shocked and asked me why I didn't speak earlier. I told her that there wasn't anything worth saying before then. :LOL
 

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My ds1 had 3 words at age 18 months. His hearing was fine and he communicated well otherwise. We could tell he was very bright, but he just wasn't talking. In addition, he had very few sounds. He basically was quiet, except for whining and grunting.

We felt something was wrong and had him evaled by a speech pathologist. Turns out he had a very tight frenulum. At age 20 months, we had it surgically corrected and by age 24 months with the help of speech therapy, he had about 20 words, and more importantly, he was begininning to make different sounds.

After age 2, he progressed quickly and was appropriate for age level by age 2.25 and was d/c'd from therapy. And today, he's 3.5 and has amazing speech and vocabulary.

Personally, I think there was more to his speech delay then just the frenulum.

If you are concerned about your dd, then read up on what is normal for a child her age. If she is well below what is considered the norm, then I would have her evaled. I know some here take more of a 'watch and wait' approach, but imo, speech development or the lack thereof is an important issue and a simple speech eval is non-traumatic and non-invasive. And truthfully, I think 24 months is the cut-off for the 'watch and wait' approach anyway. I think most peds automatically eval (or at least order evals) for all 2 year olds with little to no speech.

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I didn't speak until I was 10...One day, my mom gave me a bowl of soup. I took one taste, and I told her that it was cold. Mom was shocked and asked me why I didn't speak earlier. I told her that there wasn't anything worth saying before then.
Hmm, I wasn't under the impression that the OP was looking for jokes here. That's the oldest speech pathologist joke in the book. 10 years old and not talking, yeah right.
 

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my son had one word when he was about that age - more (only it sounded like moy). By the time he was 2 1/2 he had a huge vocabulary and wonderful pronunciation - like that of a child at least a year older than he. Even now (he's 3 ) people ALWAYS comment on how well he speaks and think he's 4 or 5.
 

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I wouldn't worry too much at 20 months. If she can understand what you say to her, uses language even if it's not spoken, gets her point across in ways other than speaking aloud, and follows simple, two-step instructions, she's still well within the range of normal development.
 

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My oldest didn't talk until he was 22 months. And it turned out that he's advanced, which we weren't paying attention to due to his lack of speech. I'm not saying that late talkers are all advanced in other areas. But in my son's case, people assumed that he wasn't as smart because he didn't speak, and it turned out that he's very advanced, particularly in visual-spatial areas. I hate the assumption that speech is linked to intelligence.

With my son, up until 22 months, he said, "Dad", "dissie" (nursie), and "dissis?" (this is?). He knew a few signs, but I had been somewhat lazy about introducing them. He had fantastic receptive speech, i.e. he could understand and follow directions, point to a variety of requested objects in books, etc. He made his needs known through lots of grunting and pointing. He made a lot of eye contact and sometimes would animatedly babble to other people, which always sounded like, "Da da da DAda DA da dada DA". He didn't even say, "Mama".

One day, when he was 22 months, I gave him some water and he said, "Tay-too....". And he said, "wa-bwa", which was "water". That incident seemed to open the flood-gates for him. He started repeating any word we'd offer to him. He started using words to communicate what he wanted (e.g. "shoo?" /shoes for going outside). Within 3 months of this, he basically sounded like any other boy his age. And at some point, he spoke very well (by 3 maybe). He just turned 4 and he has great speech. He creates long sentences, uses big words and just manages to express himself well. People easily understand what he is saying and he is very chatty with adults.

Our ped really pushed for an evaluation, but we opted to skip it. DS was only 15 months at the time and we felt he just was operating on his own timetable. I read an insane amount of material on late speech, autism, hyperlexia (he knew all the letter sounds), everything you could name, and I worried myself a fair bit. I had read that most kids have a jump in speech around 18 months and around 24 months. So we decided to wait until age 2 to give him a chance to develop on his own. It seems like most people do the eval and intervention these days, but based on our gut feeling and what we observed with ds, we decided to wait and see instead.

You asked for anecdotes. I hope this helps in some way.
 

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I also wanted to say that you should go with what you gut instincts as a mother are telling you. Those are very strong, but we often don't listen to them. In my heart of hearts, I really felt that nothing was "off" and I was right. A PP said that she had a gut feeling that something was wrong and her child ended up having a tight frenulum. Your gut can really lead you in the right direction, but it can be hard to hear with all the messages that everyone gives us.

I heard a lot of those messages when my son didn't speak. I heard, of course, the boy explanation. The most annoying one I repeatedly heard from people was that it was basically MY fault, because I spoke to him too much and met too many of his needs. He's not speaking, they said, because you're doing so much for him and he doesn't *need* to say anything. The implication was that I was hurting him in some way and that he was being lazy.
: On the other side of that coin, I heard that he didn't speak, because he wasn't with enough children so he couldn't copy them. In that case, it was also a "blame the mother" deal, because he was an only child and why wasn't he in a preschool program? Someone subsequently told me that research shows that children acquire speech primarily through adults rather than other kids and that they use lip-reading to learn a lot of it.

So, try to go with your gut feelings on your child, rather than what well-intentioned but usually misguided people tell you. You know your child best.
 

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ds1 barely talked before 2. He is almost 4 now and talks almost nonstop. I think it was around 3-4 months after he turned 2 that he started speaking more. He knew the words and was just waiting it out I guess.
 

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I didn't speak until I was 10...One day, my mom gave me a bowl of soup. I took one taste, and I told her that it was cold. Mom was shocked and asked me why I didn't speak earlier. I told her that there wasn't anything worth saying before then. :LOL
Are you serious, or just poking fun??? Really!


My dh didn't speak until he was about 3. He was raised bilingual, which often has an effect on speech. He started talking in full sentences and it was a pretty abrupt beginning. Not overnight, but it was within a few weeks that he went from pointing for something to verbally asking for it. When he started speaking, as my SIL once told me (well... not me because I don't speak Armenian or Turkish... translated through my husband) he was speaking both languages and was fully comprehensible from the beginning. None of this babbling business.

It sounds like with signing to help her out, your dd is able to get her point across. Good for her!!
I'm sure she'll start speaking when she's ready and you'll be surprised by how well she speaks.
 

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My DS didn’t really start talking (beyond a single word here and there) until 2 1/4- 1/2 or so. Now he is 3.2 and yaps NON STOP. :LOL He has a huge vocabulary now with some very impressive words and has no problem at all speaking in paragraphs/conversations. He sings, tells stories, jokes around, etc. I was a little worried at one point but he has caught up and them some.
 

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I vote for the idea to go with your internal system. I had a nephew who didn't talk until about 3, and something is wrong, as even at almost 9, he doesn't speak very well. However, they're not sure what is the cause. They certainly have a whole list of what isn't wrong with him.

However, my m-i-l says my husband didn't say much until 5, and he's clearly intelligent enough. My ds said exactly what was required to get his point across and no more in a most stubborn way until last year (about 4.5) Now, he's 5, and sometimes he wakes up talking and doesn't stop until he falls asleep at night. I went with my gut on him, and not what the books or anyone else had to say about how little he verbalized his needs.

And definitely a pooh-pooh to the ones that think it's the mom's fault for responding to all his needs without "making" him learn to ask. That just puts the parent and child in a "Who's more stubborn than whom?" situation. I know, because I bought that crudola for a couple months, and it didn't "encourage" him to ask at all!


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My kids have always seemed to be "late" talkers whatever that is.. but by three they do not stop yapping.. my youngest has been my earliest talker yet.. I can make sense of her at 18 mos! :LOL

My 4 yo is still pretty garbled but hes getting there.. I think all kids just develop at their own speed.
 

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putting in my 2 cents as a speech & language pathologist. the average baseline looked for in a speech & language evaluation is 50 words by age 2. that said, there is truly huge variability in speech & language development across the board. a main factor in seeking therapy is if she's frustrated by not communicating effectively. frustration is key- if she's not frustrated, it's not an issue for her & that's that.

i do have to say that overall, the developmental norms for boys' speech & language development are a bit later than girls' but not by a lot.

ITA to trust your gut!
 

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Are you serious, or just poking fun??? Really!



The previous poster (to whom you were referring) was using an old joke. I don't find it funny, either.
 

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My son started really talking at 23 months. Nearly four now, he speaks in full sentences non-stop.

But he does have autism, and I am very grateful that we intervened early or he would have even more difficulties. IMO, "wait and see" does nobody any favors.
 

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I'm reading this thread with interest because my 16mo is not talking (2-3 words maybe) and my first two were definitely talking more by now. I think I understand the advantages of early intervention, but there are also obvious disadvantages. It's really difficult to think about taking my child in for some kind of treatment when he might be just a late developer. He has done pretty much everything later than his big brothers.

Is it just me? I feel really torn because obviously I don't want to set him up for more problems later by not having him evaluated, but that is just NOT my parenting style so far, at all. What kind of "larger problems" could a child have from not getting speech therapy at ONE year old?
 
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