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I had my 36 week appointment yesterday. So far, all has been well but I have to admit, I have been getting really nervous. When I had dd 2 1/2 years ago, everything was fine until near the end when all of a sudden, she started to measure really big. There was some debate as to my due date and as ultrasounds were showing she was getting bigger and my bp started to rise because of fear, I ended up 1. going in for an induction where I was on cervadil for 36 hours and nothing happened and then they sent me home. 2. The next weekend, I went back for another induction, was induced, she ended up being posterior and I had a forecep delivery (she was 9 lbs, 1 oz).<br><br>
This time round, baby was measuring "in the ballpark" according to my o.b. and then yesterday, all of a sudden, it would appear that baby is "huge". Even though I passed my diabetes screen about 8 weeks ago, now I have to go and have a two hour GTT today and an ultrasound next week. I asked what this would all mean if the baby is huge and his response was, "Nothing, we don't induce for big babies, it doesn't work. We are just going to dot i's and cross t's to make sure that you haven't become diabetic since the last time we checked you. Anyway, your daughter was big so chances are, this baby, being a second and a boy, will be, too."<br><br>
I know that as far as possible problems go, this one isn't the worst but I am really scared. My delivery last time was really, really unpleasant and I don't know how I can face the same kind of thing over again. I even hired a wonderful doula to support me through this labour, thinking that might make things easier for me but she is away until next week. I can't believe I am saying this but I am starting to wonder whether I should just go ahead and ask for a c-section - I don't want to vaginally deliver a toddler. Has anyone else had a similar situation? How bad IS the recovery from a c-section? I am most concerned about 1. the longer hospital stay that goes with a c-section (I don't want to be away from my daughter a moment longer than I have to) and b. not being able to do much for 6 weeks. I also hoped that since this baby seems big, that he would decide to make an early appearance but at yesterday's appointment, my cervix is showing that there is no sign of anything in the imminent future.
 

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I can't speak much for a c-section as I have never had 1, but like you I am not the type that would want to stay in the hospital longer, or go through another induction. So no real advice, just a <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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I hate the "big baby" scare. I mean, really? What are they going to do? They can't go in there and tell your baby to knock it off and not gain weight. So, what's the point of all the scariness, you know?<br><br>
I've had 2 nice size babies (both c-sections, anecdotally). I've read all the ACOG stuff on big babies. They don't recommend inducing for big baby. They don't recommend going straight to a c-section unless the baby is estimated at 5000 grams (11 pounds). So, in all that gray area of 9-11 lbs, there really isn't anything good to do, just worry. So, it seems crazy to freak people out about it.<br><br>
All that said...my second baby was TWO pounds smaller than my first. TWO pounds. So, just because it's your second baby, it doesn't mean he will be bigger.<br><br>
(()) to you during all this!
 

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Hi there! Hugs to you mama! I am so sorry for your stress!<br><br>
I have sooo many questions for you that I did not quite glean from your story.<br><br>
When exactly...what dates were you finally induced at? Were you mobile for your delivery?<br><br>
Do you know that I and many others would not consider a 9lb baby big...to me big is 11 lbs, which I have seen delivered with ease. My friend had a 12lb 6oz bb delivered vaginally.<br><br>
Did you know that u/s can be off by up to 2lbs in the last trimester and that none of my clients in almost 9 years of practice ever get u/s even if I think that the baby feels big. I would be concerned if their measurements are way off (twins? or other issues) or if they had extra or low amniotic fluid) but not for size. I have also never induced or transported a mama with a big feeling baby. Also all of my mamas have active labors...ie they are mobile and move around which helps the baby decend and make its movements for delivery. My clients, for the most part, all push when they feel the urge, NOT when they are diagnosed as 10cms, as I don't often do cervical exams. The way I practice is not uncommon, it is the standard of care for homebirth midwives and in some hospital midwifery practices and it reflects in great statistics and low interventions. THis is all written here for you not to convince you to have a midwife or homebirth at all, it is written to put perspective on what you are going through. If you look at the literature most problems with deliveries (ie shoulder dystocia) happen with average size babies, not large babies. Often times use of forceps has to do with either a baby with a crooked head at any size (asynclitic) or failure for practitioner to wait for the baby to descend and having mama push too soon so she is pushing forever. Also they are used sometimes instead of getting mom up and mobile and pushing in many different positions.<br><br>
It could be that someday I do need to bring in a client because we have been unable at home to dislodge or straighten an asyclitic head with movement, exercise, or manipulation, and we may need forceps...it could happen but it is rare.<br><br>
I hope that you can step back and breath and maybe do some reading on the subject and perhaps feel better that you have a doc that wont induce for that reason and that this is a totally different baby, and that most importantly that it is ok to grow and birth a healthy baby, really and truly.<br><br>
You might look at Henci Goer's site on-line as well as the Childbirth Connection...both sites have great research on medical evidence based issues...and I am pretty sure they both talk about the misguided use of inductions for suspected healthy babies.
 

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ddcc<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">s<br><br>
9 pounds is not that big, sweetie. Read the birth stories from last month's mamas and you'll see a lot of "big" babies...<br><br>
I think you have a lot going for you in this birth:<br><br>
1. You've birthed a baby before. You're going to be stretchier, probably will dilate faster, and you know how to push. You're not a newbie anymore! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
2. You have a doula. This should help you avoid a lot of interventions, help you labor more effectively (positioning, etc.), and even help you push more effectively.<br><br>
What you really need right now is some confidence. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Have you read Ina May's Guide to Childbirth? It's an incredibly great book for regaining confidence right before birth. I would get it and read it ASAP. Your body can do this!<br><br>
Don't let the big baby talk scare you. I've been told twice that my babies would be big (even once getting the "oh so accurate" ultrasound for a very detailed weight estimate), and both times the doctors were off by over a pound. You can do this!! You can! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
If you can, get the Ina May book. Work on positioning so you don't have to have another posterior labor (check out the spinningbabies website). Start doing some positive mental talk. I'm sorry some of the issues of your last birth are triggering fear, but that doesn't mean this birth has to be hard. It can be AMAZING!
 

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Well, to answer the c-section question: the recovery is horrible. Granted, I had an emergency c-section after 27.5 hours of labor and 3 hours of hard pushing and then I was anemic, so my body was beat. But I have had a c, a vaginal with a fairly decent tear (he didn't give anything a chance to stretch. Just flew out in a couple pushes), and a vaginal with a tiny little tear. I look back on the c-section and it's enough to make me cry on the spot. So many people look at it as the "easy way out", but there's more risk of infection, WAY more pain afterward, gas pain...omg the gas pain, and so much more. My ab muscles never did get any tone back and I think I will always have that horrible ugly pooch. Nursing her the first 2 weeks was pure hell. If I hadn't been so committed to doing it and if my dh and mom hadn't been there to bring her to me, I would have quit. Rolling over in bed was misery. I had (undiagnosed, untreated) ppd because I felt like a cow. All I was good for was feeding her. I couldn't change her diapers, walk her around at night when she was fussy, nothing. She was only 8#14oz., but the doc still recommended that I carry her as little as possible in the first 6 weeks. I felt like a child, having to ask people to bring me my baby once I was able to sit up. That doesn't even speak for the problems I've heard people have with epidurals. I personally won't ever get one, I've told my OB that in the case of a c-section again, it will be emergency and she will just put me out again. I have known several people that have had epidurals and terrible spinal headaches afterward. Not to mention the chance that your incision will rupture if you ever try for a VBAC, or even after the initial c-section (had a friend who that happened to also).<br><br>
I understand birth trauma. I have a LOT of baggage from my first delivery. It will always overshadow my wonderful successcul VBACs in some ways. I really encourage you to try to find a way past it, though. My first labor was night and day from my second and third. I went 10 days over with dd1 and was induced. My water broke 16 days early with ds and contractions started 14 days early with dd2.<br><br>
Try to believe in yourself and your body.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies//2cents.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="2 cents"> my first was a 9lb girl too, my second (a boy) was almost 10- but his delivery was so much faster (6 hours of labor- 2-3 minutes of pushing) and I barely even tore (probly wouldn't have if he hadn't wanted out so FAST). NO interventions, period! My humble opinion is that fat squishes and fat on a baby really isn't that important in determining how easily the baby comes down and out. It is much more important that baby gets to pick his day and you can stay comfortable so it can wiggle itself into the right spot for delivery. Btw recovery was super! I was up and around in less than an hour with tons of energy. Stay strong; and be confident that your body won't make a baby it can't get out!
 

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I knew you would make me feel better! I didn't think that 9 lbs was that huge and really, my o.b. the last time herself said that size of baby based on ultrasounds is often very unreliable. This time, my o.b. said that he was not sending me for the ultrasound to measure the size of baby but to check the fluid around the baby which he hopes might give him a bit more of an idea about size. I know that lots of women deliver larger babies and are fine and I am not tiny - I would say that I am on the larger size of average (I'm 5' 7" and average build).<br><br>
In terms of the last time, the worst part was that I had no mobility at all once they started the induction - I was on my back, strapped to monitors the entire time. I just didn't have the courage to fight it. That's one of the reasons that I hired a doula - I wasn't quite brave enough to do a home birth and I think that, from what I have read, as likely as not, I would have been switched from midwives to an o.b. since the baby would probably be above average (that seems to be how it works around here). I assumed that I would be doing a hospital birth with an o.b. so having a doula was the next best thing. I have been doing what I can to help this baby to position - using the birthing ball, doing the positions that my doula has suggested and swimming for 30 minutes each day (which is heavenly!).<br><br>
I keep trying to remind myself what my husband reminded me of last night - once they turned my daughter, even at 9 lbs, 1 oz, she slid out on the next push so there must be enough room.<br><br>
Again, though, I can't thank everyone enough for the words of encouragement. I was so discouraged last night and afraid - I DON'T want to have a c-section unless it is medically essential and thank you for helping me not feel so much like giving up.
 

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I'm so sorry that your hcp had to scare you like that. As if it actually helps to freak women out that baby is too big. But even so, it is so common...and still used as an excuse to induce early. That in itself tends to be the reason to end up with a csection (failure to progress...since baby & body aren't ready yet!).<br><br>
Wait, mama...let your body get ripe and let baby be ready and all will be well. First babies are much harder/take longer to push out anyway because the tissues haven't stretched like that before...so I think you will be surprised even if this little guy is bigger, that it will still very likely feel a lot easier.<br><br>
I am a petite woman who has delivered babies between 8 lbs 9oz (my first) all the way up to 9 lbs 12oz (#3), and this is the first time I am having a boy. I have had comments from all kinds of people about how big he might be...even dh's father suggested I should go to the hospital because 'boys in our famly come face first'. As if that helps, right? It will be hard work, but baby and I will figure it out! And even if he is a bit bigger than my girls, I delivered half of them direct posterior (they didn't turn)...so I'm pretty sure a well-positioned bigger baby would still feel easy compared to that!!<br><br>
I'm just sorry you had to have someone infuse doubt and worry. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> It's just not right for people to do that and undermine a mama's confidence. You will do great!!!
 

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The compassion and support of the mamas on this board blows me away - thanks, everyone. You have made me feel SO much better!
 
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