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Do you agree with Designer Breed pups?

  • YES- Sure do not see an issue with it

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  • NO-Definitly not.

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Just curious? Not meant to be a battle, but how many of you agree with the Designer Breed pups such as labordoodles and such.<br><br>
I think some of them are WAY CUTE but I DO NOT AGREE with it at all and would NEVER purchase one. I can not believe people pay for essentially a mut.<br><br>
I would rescue from the pound but would never buy one personally.
 

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Don't agree with them, but I have one.<br><br>
However, she was not a $1,000 pet store pet, she was a $30 SPCA rescue.
 

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While I always thought a Bull Shitz would be fun to have, I don't agree with the practice at all. I've definitely get one as a rescue animal though, same as any animal (it's not their fault who/where/how they came to be)!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">While I always thought a Bull Shitz would be fun to have, I don't agree with the practice at all. I've definitely get one as a rescue animal though, same as any animal (it's not their fault who/where/how they came to be)!</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> at Bull Shitz!<br>
I agree
 

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I don't agree either. And I, too, can't believe people will pay that much money for a mut. Not just a mutt, but a mut who probably has had no health testing or guarantees.<br><br>
I'll take the shelter/breed rescue "designer dog" aka mut but my money would never support this type of breeding.
 

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I have a very rare designer breed called a 'weinerbull'. She's one of a kind, but I could make a mint if I could make tons of others like her. She's part daschund part pit bull. Got her at the shelter. I also have a 'huskard' who is part shepherd, part husky who was a 4 week old orphan I rescued.<br><br>
I voted I'm against specially breeding these mutts selling them for $$$$$. It's bad enough to see full breeds at petstores for those prices, now we've got mutts for the same amounts. It's insane.
 

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I happen to think mutts make the best dogs, but intentionally breeding them and then selling them for 1,000's nope.<br><br>
I have to admit I do love the look of labradoodles <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: all big and fluffy. Maybe someday we would get a rescue, but we could never pay for a dog, heck even our purebred came from the shelter.
 

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I have a toy puggle and love him loads. I never thought that I be a dog person and always had my 2 cats but Livingston turned me around. He even sleeps in our family bed.<br><br>
I'll stay away from the if its right or wrong question <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:. I will say that if its going to happen its more about where they come from. Puppy Mills are everywhere and people need/should be educated. I feel that it very important for people to be able to be matched with a a rep breeder. One that has proven themselves prior to offering a designer breed. One offers 1st generation pups only and one that doesn't jump on the lets charge a $1000 because we can get it band wagon.<br><br>
Edited to add that a good breeder will offer some kind of a guarantee. I love my mutt!
 

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Puggles are adorable! We were interested in the mix but they are too expensive for us. I just bought a boxador (boxer/lab mix). I spent way too much money but after seeing the house she was in I felt like I was helping out a family that needed some cash, ya know? They weren't raising pups for money it just ended up that they had a lot of cute pups <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<br><br>
She's very cute. Both Boxers and Labs are well known for being good family dogs so I was sold. I'm a novice dog owner (ie naive) so take my opinion with a grain of salt <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Nope. Very strongly disagree with it. And that's all I have to say because I'm pregnant and hormonal and prone to starting WW III over pet peeve topics, of which this is one.
 

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As long as it's a responsible breeder who takes care to only breed healthy dogs.. not a puppy mill in any way.. I don't have a problem with it. I agree that's it's rather silly to see people pay $1000 for essentially a mutt but I don't begrudge a responsible breeder the right to charge whatever people will pay. It's just about supply and demand.. People have reasons for wanting these particular kinds of mutts.. They do have interesting and unique traits. If there is a high demand and not alot of supply, then naturally there will be high prices. I don't see that much difference from people who breed purebreed whatevers and charge big $$.<br><br>
That being said, I think it's much better for people to adopt shelter dogs because there are just *so* many dogs out there that need homes. But the reality is that some people just have a very specific idea of what they want in a dog and they aren't going to settle for just any random shelter adoption.<br><br>
Okay.. please don't flame me.. this is the first time I've ever posted something that leaves me feeling like I'm to be strung up in the town square.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:
 

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Um, as a labradoodle owner, I guess I have to say that I 'agree' with them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I don't 'agree' with back-yard breeders, but to me, that's a separate issue. I do 'agree' with getting rescue dogs, if you can. But sometimes that doesn't work. I have three young children, and had specific needs for our new dog. I was on the rescue list for a lab/retriever for ages, but no dog was found to be suitable for us. They wouldn't let me have most of the dogs as my kids are so young. My last dog was a rescue, and while he was a great single-person dog, he was not good with kids and I did not feel able to repeat that experience. It was so much work to get him socialised, and I did not feel able to risk a failure when I have kids. I did find a labradoodle rescue dog, but it had been neglected and would have needed a lot of work that I wasn't able to put in, and I could not take the risk of it not overcoming its problems.<br><br>
So, I found a good breeder, did a lot of research, and bought my 'designer dog'. I don't see anything wrong with the price, personally. From what I always understood, if a breeder is charging less than the 'going rate', the chances are that they are not spending what they should on raising their dogs, so you should beware the cheap dog on craigslist. I didn't want a cheap dog, I wanted the right dog for my family.<br><br>
I wanted this type of dog for specific reasons - temperament, intelligence, and non-shedding. She has turned out to be fabulous. I take my dog-owning seriously, and if she's a 'mutt', who cares? Certainly not my kids, and certainly not me. I feel that I need to pay the breeder a fair price for her work in raising her dogs well and breeding responsibly. I don't care about the pedigree or lack of. Although she's a mix, she's bred for a specific reason, and I was happy to pay for what I wanted.<br><br>
Plus, she won the best obedience in her puppy class last week, so how could I fail to appreciate her. She's uber-cute, wonderful with the kids, smart, gentle, and she doesn't shed.......<br><br>
So, to conclude, yes, I 'agree' with designer dogs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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I voted no. Mainly because it does seem like it's all hype and profit incentive than any attempt to actually create a new breed. And some of the mixes are frankly bizzarre to me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I voted "no."<br><br>
I don't agree with intentional breeding at all, whether it's a Labradoodle or a regular Poodle.</div>
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Why? I know its been slammed down people's throats for so long by animal rightists that breeding is evil but that is of course not true.<br><br>
Mutts aren't superior to purebreds though you can get some great mutts. Different breeds have different physical and temperamental characteristics. Mutts aren't that consistent. Good breeders take the time to test before they breed and their goal is to improve the breed. There is no one to do that for mutts.<br><br>
I now buy purebreds and will continue to do so because I have specific needs that mutts can't fill. Many people do.<br><br>
If animal rightists get their way and people continue to believe their outright lies then these wonderful breeds will be gone forever.<br><br>
If someone has a specific goal in mind for these crosses and really wants to make improvements temperament and health wise then I have no problem with these breedings.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So, I found a good breeder, did a lot of research, and bought my 'designer dog'.</div>
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Many people will argue that "good breeder" and "designer dog" do not belong in the same sentance (unless of course you put "would never breed a" in between).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I voted "no."<br><br>
I don't agree with intentional breeding at all, whether it's a Labradoodle or a regular Poodle.</div>
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What would those specific needs be?
 

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Charmander:<br>
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Originally Posted by 2tadpoles<br>
I voted "no."<br>
I don't agree with intentional breeding at all, whether it's a Labradoodle or a regular Poodle.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I believe in *responsible* breeding - until these cross breeders start doing genetic screening, performance testing, & follow up on & re-home any dogs they produce that need it, they are not responsible breeders. Not all pure bred breeders are responsible either, but "designer breeders" are extremely unlikely to be.<br><br>
Quote: Originally posted by rpe<br>
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Don't know what rpe's needs are, but I need a 100-150 lb dog w/little to no prey drive, innate desire to bond to livestock, double coated (enjoys all weather), independant, predator aggressive (bold, territorial, intelligent) - yet attentive to its flock (& only employing as much force as needed), that's healthy & has good hips. Livestock guarding dog breeds crossed w/any other type of breed are generally unsuccessful; crossed w/other LGDs, they usually have had no health screening. Even if I just wanted a companion/pet, rather than a working dog, I'd like some predictability as to size, temperament, energy levels, aptitudes, & health background. You don't have that w/random bred or crossed dogs.
 

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I voted other.<br><br>
In general, I don't agree with it in dogs or cats, and esp. not hybrid birds (ever w/birds).<br><br>
But I am a fan of showing animals and improving the breeds that we have. Some people breed the most atrocious animals and the puppies are still AKC registered.. that does not make them a good representation of the breed. Just because they are purebred doesn't give anyone a license to slap two dogs together to make registerable puppies...<br><br>
With that said.. all breeds were mutts at one point. It took years of careful selecting and breeding to create the "look" our purebreds have. If someone is genuinely breeding for a different "look", a certain "trait" (anti-allergy-inducing-doggies included, and yes I do believe some of them genuinely reduce allergies...), and are breeding for great personalities that's fine, but it's obvious to see who is breeding for money and who is breeding to genuinely create and promote a new breed. I think a new breed should have it's own name, instead of sticking two breeds together, because as you breed your dogs along the line and create this new look you aren't going to want it confused with other breeds! Eventually, they will not look very much alike..<br><br>
They should be pushing to make the breed registerable. There should be genuine interest in the breed all over, which the labradoodle HAS done, but they should be showable and breeders should be representing their stock against other breeders in the show ring... just like purebreds.<br><br>
But, like I said, people will breed purebreds for the money. If I'm paying for a purebred animal, I want it to come from show stock. I want the non-show quality animal from a show-quality litter, to make sure my money is supporting a good breeder that is genuinely in it for the breed... not for the money or the illusion of money or whatever... and sometimes its hard to see where the line is drawn.<br><br>
So my general answer is no, with a 5-10% margin for "yes". LOL
 
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