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I am ever curious...I know a lot of moms co sleep so are your dc allowed to have cribs/bassinetts for their dolls? How about high chairs? Bottles? I was thinking about this today dd took a empty ear drop med bottle and said it was a bottle and started to feed her baby. She has a baby bed and swing but rarely playswith it.
 

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ds has a dollsbed and alls his dolls cosleep if one wants to join thats cool! no bottles what so ever for his dolls they all come to me for boo. never used a highchair so I dont think ds knows what it is.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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DD has a doll that came with a bottle.<br><br>
It's not a problem for me, when her sibllng is born I'm hoping she'll be want to help bottle feed the baby -- just like DH does when I'm not around to nurse.
 

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Well, we cosleep and we recently got a little doll cradle. I thought about the potential for it to be an "issue," (mostly because my daughter makes a big deal of where children are sleeping in books, and where their parents are. For instance, in <i>Good Night Moon</i>, she has been known to get upset when "the old lady whispering hush" is no longer in the room at the very end. To her, that's the mama, and she will not accept that the "baby bunny" sleeps in his room and his mama sleeps elsewhere. She accepts the explanation that the "mama" went to the bathroom to pee before bed.)<br><br>
However, she seems to have no issues with putting any number of her "friends" to bed in the little cradle. I don't mean that they're all together all the time, but just that she isn't bothered by putting anybody into the cradle and tucking them in. (Doll, stuffed "friend," piggy bank, etc.)<br><br>
She has no bottles and I wouldn't buy one for her to use with dolls (she never took a bottle and we only tried half-heartedly to introduce it kind of late, because she'd had some latch problems during the supposed "ideal window" for introducing a bottle so I didn't bother trying until she was about 4 months old, and it just didn't go over.) Until recently, she would see babies with bottles and always called them "cups." I didn't really think about it being an issue anywhere else, but she goes a couple of mornings a week to preschool, and they have a lot of dollies there. I went in with my husband to do some music for her class this week, and she was holding a doll and feeding it with a toy bottle. It sort of blew my mind. I talked to her later, and she knows it's called a "bottle," now. I didn't react in a strong way, but I asked her what way babies like best to be fed ("they like to nurse, just like you do"), and that you don't <i>need</i> a bottle to feed a baby. You can feed a baby with your breast, and that's the best way to do it.<br><br>
I don't particularly care that she's learned this way of playing, but it surprised me and I felt a little sad that this is what she's imitating (she used to naturally imitate breastfeeding, because that's what she knows.) I'd like to see her continue to make that assumption of how to feed a baby, but I view the bottle play as similar to her holding cups to her dolls' mouths, and feeding little toy infants ice cream or muffins or whatever else she's made in her play kitchen. She's just pretending and sharing, and I'm not going to make a big deal of it. I did mention that real little babies can't eat those things because they're not ready to yet, and that when she was that little, all she did was nurse. I told her that pretending is different than how you'd feed a real baby. But I'm not overly concerned about the issue as an "issue."<br><br>
You could say the same thing about stroller play....I thought about whether to have one for dolls. We haven't made a habit of using strollers with our child, is that something we want to buy for her? Should we only introduce the idea of a child's sling to carry a dolly, since that's what we did with her (and that was, in part, because of philosophical reasons. A clear preference.) I did get her a stroller, and I chose one with the seat/doll looking back at the person pushing. I view it as sort of a developmental tool, something to push around (that was especially fun for her when she was newer to walking) and a way to store/keep dolls. She uses a child's sling, too.<br><br>
The high chair....I didn't intend to have one (how much gear do we need?) but my mom is buying a little wooden one that matches the cradle. It is on sale (the cradle was on sale when she got it, too) and it's nice. I imagine it'll be another place to keep one of her dolls, and a focus for feeding play. She loves to "cook" for her friends. Right now, they lay on a table or on a stool while she "feeds" them; the ones that can sit up more easily will sometimes sit on a chair at her table. As far as what we used for her....we never had a (real) highchair for her to use, but she sits in a booster seat that fastens to a chair at our kitchen table. She's most comfortable using the tray that came with it, rather than pulling up to the table in the seat. So, for all intents and purposes, that's like a high chair, right?<br><br>
I guess I'm glad that she models holding and carrying her dolls. She does cart them around in the stroller sometimes, and she sometimes plays at putting them to bed in the cradle, and I imagine she'll get a lot of use out of the highchair she'll be getting in a few weeks. But she also chooses a friend to take to bed with us at night. And she assumes that babies sleep with their parents. (We've shown her that some babies sleep in cribs; she seems a little disbelieving!) And frankly, when she goes to sleep (at night, and back when she still was napping), she's alone in the bed for a chunk of time before we come to bed. It's probably not that much different than her tucking in a doll....for us, co-sleeping doesn't always mean we're all there together at the same time, all the time.<br><br><br>
Wow...that was a long response. Just pointing out that there are issues to consider. I don't know if these things are "bad." They haven't bothered me considerably, but I've thought of them. I would never try to teach her something negative about bottles, but I was happy that she never assumed them before. And surprised to realize that she'd been introduced to the concept. I'm glad I (I think) made a connection for her that the nursing she does is something "just born babies" do, too. And that she still can feed "her babies" with her breast. (Or I can...)
 

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I don't mind DD playing with things like that (crib, bottle, stroller, etc), even though we don't have them in the house (we just have a few dolls, no accessories). Not because I am so against them, but because I keep a limited amount of toys in the house and I've never been much into dolls (even as a child) so I just don't think about getting things like that for her.<br><br>
Personally, I feel that my child seeing me nurse, carry, wear and attend to our real baby is the best lesson I can give her on the subject. She will undoubtedly play out other behaviors at times, but I believe my influence will likely carry through the strongest. I don't feel the need to limit her play in order to make a point.
 

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DS has a child sling and he puts his baby in his shopping cart <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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We co-sleep but Drihan does have a doll cradle that was a family heirloom that she sometimes uses, but not always. She also has a bottle for baby even though I did BF for 9 mo. until she weaned. She drinks a bottle herself. I made a doll sling for her the other day because she always tries to use mine. Right now she is just playing, when she is old enough to be a parent she will have a LOT more knowledge and education to make her decisions. She also has two teen sisters who will be parents before she is grown and she will see their examples too.
 

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my mom (an advocate for bf) has given dd several bottles and that kind of confused me. i don't make a big deal of her playing with them and don't encourage it either. her babies also nurse so that is good.<br>
my aunt got her a real cute baby bed and she just doesn't "get" it at all. she loves to wrap her babies in blankets and pretend that they are sleeping, but she doesn't care where they sleep- the bed was the last place she would choose, so i put it away for now.<br>
stroller- she doesn't ride in her real stroller often, but loves other kids in strollers and likes her play one too. i think half of the fun is just pushing something around. the cutest though, was when i bought her a backpack- just for a joke b/c my husband is infamous for always wearing one. she takes it very seriously though- she loads it up with her babies, asks me to put it on her back, and treks them around everwhere.<br>
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My friend sells baby doll slings on her website:<br><br><a href="http://www.keconwa.com" target="_blank">www.keconwa.com</a><br><br>
I would get my DD a sling (she is too young now for many of those toys)
 

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I have a friend who's DD has the Fisher Price family house & figures...DS LOVES playing with that thing - I'd totally get him one but good grief they are sooooo expensive! Anyway, it's cute to watch him play "family" as he calls it. He has everyone co-sleeping & breastfeeding. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Drihan has two houses and a barn from Melissa and Doug that she loves. We got her one AA family and one CC family and I love how she integrates them just like our family. Heck she even has some of the animals live in the house. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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i do...she pushes the beds together and the doll house babes sleep with mama and papa....sometimes they are in the cribs that come with the sets but they more often than not, are in beds....<br><br>
she has some playmobil houses from gram and they have a mommy doll with a sling that's sweet and she loves it...she tossed the bottle somewhere and we have yet to find it. i am sure when we move in june..lol..<br><br>
alot of her babies come with bottles..she likes the ones where they disappear bc she thinks it's neat and wants to know where it goes....the ones that come empty, she just says it's mommy's milk in them so i am ok with that.....however it's fun to see her nurse a tiny dollhouse doll before she puts it to bed...<br><br>
she's 2.5..<br><br>
oh, like the pp, she also has farm animals and zoo animals who sleep in the house too....i think a tiger was in bed with everyone last night...i'd need to go open it to check though..lol
 

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We have doll beds, cribs, strollers, bottles, etc. The girls play with them all. They also sleep with them, nurse them, make slings out of blankets and scarves for them, and do all the other things they see me do. Emily is a bottle fed baby. She was born with a cleft palate, and I pumped exclusively for a year for her. Bottles aren't evil, nore are they confusing. If you asked my oldest what was in the bottle she would tell you, breastmilk. Strollers, cribs, etc. have their place too. We have three kids in our family, so one is usually in some carrier, one in a stroller, and one walking. The same goes with the dolls. Only Abby is in bed with us, still. Emily and Katie share bunk beds, so the doll beds get their share of use, as well. We don't happen to have a high chair for the dolls, but that is mostly coincidence and not about any objection to the devices.<br><br>
What I love seeing in my girls when they play with their dolls is the love and kindness that they show them. They are always quick with a hug and a kiss, gentle their babies to sleep, make sure they are well fed when they are hungry, and are always treated with concern, love and kindness. The paraphanalia is just a byproduct of this treatment.
 

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We don't have doll bottles/cribs/strollers/etc. My son nurses his babies and carries them in a sling (when he plays with them, which he hasn't in a while). All the dolls and stuffed animals sleep in our old Moses basket.
 

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when we were at a toy store a while back, DD picked up a toy bucket seat (you know car seat thingy...), tossed the baby out and tried to wear it over her shoulder like a purse. hee-hee.
 

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My DS pushes a doll stroller. He also sucks on the pretend baby bottles even though, try as we mght, he would not take one (Of expressed milk )Funny enough whenevr he puts it into his mouth DD says, "Finally Michael is taking a bottle" We have the doll pack n play but it is mostly used as a storage place for the dolls. Noone ever plays with it. DD puts her babies to sleep in her bed and DS jsut drags them around and hugs them..gives them stroller rides, too.<br><br>
DD has the doll sling but she hasn't nursed her dolls for quite some time...Maybe they weaned <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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I like your post, bec. I don't think bottles are "evil," either. I will own that I was happy when my 2.5 year old just assumed that you nursed babies. But she didn't know bottles were "bottles" mostly because they were outside her experience (she called them "cups" because she knows cups; maybe the bottles in the world looked rather like sippies to her?) I wasn't so much thinking that I should "protect" her from bottles as that I was pleased that her expectation was to nurse: that's how babies eat. It was school experience that changed her awareness somewhat (besides just playing with babies as part of their dramatic play, they have been learning all about babies since one of their teachers is pregnant and due in a month....) One of the things they've learned is about baby bottles (the teacher did contact parents and said if anyone objected to their kids seeing and trying out water in real bottles, she wouldn't introduce that subject. And she allowed that the kids seemed more interested in being parents rather than being babies, so the bottle play might not "take," anyway.)<br><br>
I think part of it is just the fun of the gear. Part of it is fulfilling an expectation, though, reproducing a learned behavior and imitating what she saw someone else do. At school, my girl plays with the same kinds of toy bottles I had as a child (the "disappearing" milk & orange juice), and the time I glimpsed her, it was very lovingly fed to the baby. I do want the expectation of nursing babies to be fundamental to her, but honestly, I can't imagine that it's not. (Unless she doesn't associate her own experience with the experience of babies all around, which is possible.) But I think the pretend bottle feeding is more like the feeding of "ice cream" and other things to her babies....she's just playing and having fun, enjoying the "props" and blending quite a few things. I don't see that she's making a choice or forsaking one thing for the other. She was nursing her babe again, this afternoon. (Though perhaps that was because we don't have a bottle at home!!) I agree with you about the overall spirit of nurturing, and the context of the accompanying paraphenalia.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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