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I am really debating, re-thinking vax'ing my kids.<br><br>
My oldest 3 were fully vaxed, minus the chicken pox and flu virus'.... DD was vaxed until 9mths, and then I stopped because she was sick, then decided to wait to finish her vaccine's. (If ever)<br><br>
I would really like some open information on the different vaccine's.<br><br>
If you selectively vax your child/children, would you please share which vaccine's you give, and why... and which vaccine's you refuse, and why you decide against them?<br><br>
Thanks so much~<br><br>
Jodi ~ Confused mama to 4, with a new one on the way.
 

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Hi.<br><br>
It is hard, sifting through all the info. We fully vaxed our oldest dd. She has autism. So we started to research the issue when I was pg. It was so overwhelming! At first I thought we would just delay her shots, then I decided we would just get some vaxes. Now we know we will not do any. But it has taken hundreds of hours of reading!<br>
My advice is to try one of several ways:<br>
start with a book. It is often easier to start this way than with web pages. A book has a beginning and an end. That can really help you sort the information you get.<br>
Or, read through some of the links in the cheat sheet (sticky on this forum) and the archives here.<br>
Or, take your research one vaccine and disease at a time. Learn about each illness, signs, symptoms, dangers, and treatment. Then learn about the vaccine designed to "prevent" it. Read the package inserts from the manufacturer (can be found online), and learn about the ingredients and their dangers.<br>
There is lots of great info here too.<br><br>
And always remember you can delay for as long as you like! Do your research, and do not vaccinate until you feel comfortable doing so.<br>
Good luck!
 

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Hi Jodi <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"><br><br>
I followed an alternative schedule with ds (now 5) when he was younger and I also declined the Hep B, pneumococcal, influenza and Hep A shots for him. Our alternative schedule consisted of no vax till 6 months and then I only let them give one at a time. I seem to remember requesting separate components for his first MMR, but I honestly can't remember if we got them or if he had a combo. I only let him get 1 shot per month, so it took us till he was almost 2 to be considered "on schedule." With his most recent boosters, I let him get 3 in one day and he had a bad reaction, so I will be even more selective in the future...and no future children will receive the pertussis component or MMR or cp, even if I do decide to do DT and Hib. My jury is still out on Hep A (supposedly there is an epidemic in my area) and Hep B.
 

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Hi Jody and welcome to the board and the huge dilemma of vaccination. My first grandson was fully vaccinated. I did lots of research on circumcision and dd did it all on birthing and breastfeeding but we totally overlooked the vaccination issue.<br><br>
By the time my grandson was about 2 we were made aware of it and started to look into it. The more we read the more we realized that it is the most important decision you can ever make in regards to your child's health care and we had known nothing about what had been injected directly into his bloodstream.<br><br>
That's when we decided that from that moment on he would only get what was really necessary, one vax at a time, and free of preservatives.<br><br>
It was a good thing that he didn't need more right then because the more we looked for preservative free vaccines and researched the individual illnesses, the more we came to the conclusion that he had too much poisons in his blood already and it would be in his best interest not to inject any more.<br><br>
So that's where we are now. In meantime I have a second grandchild and he has not had any injections whatsoever nor eye ointment etc. and he will never get anything unless his life depends on it.<br><br>
Don't forget, there is no hurry to vaccinate. Most mothers in Europe do not vaccinate their children nearly as much or as early as here in the US and when the Japanese Gov suggested their children not be vax til age two, the SIDS rate went way down.<br><br>
As for <b>infant mortality rate the US is # 47!</b><br>
The following countries have no madated vaccinations and look at their #<br><b>Japan is # 1<br>
Germany # 6<br>
Austria # 5</b><br>
Switzerland, Netherlands, Spain, UK, all have no mandated vaccines and all are much better at saving infants. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Many people in Europe do not vaccinate at all. They have a huge anti-vaxx movement over there.</span><br><br>
There is a book I would like to recommend to you : <b>Vaccines: are they Safe and Effective</b> by <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Neil Z. ******</span><br><br>
And a video you can order off <a href="http://www.mercola.com" target="_blank">www.mercola.com</a><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Sheri Tenpenny</span> <b>Vaccination Dangers & Risks: Learn what CDC Documents and Science reveal.</b>
 

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Jodi,<br><br>
Go to <a href="http://www.909shot.com" target="_blank">www.909shot.com</a>. They have some good information there, and the purpose of the site is to educate (not pro or anti-vaxing, just education). That site helped me decide NOT to vax, but you have to decide what is right for you.
 

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with our dd (now 3.5 yrs.) we got the Hib on schedule, but skipped the last shot. so she got it at 2 mos., 4 mos and 6 mos. we chose to do this because dh's best friend is a ped and he (as well as our doc who is okay with selectve or non-vaxing) said that "if you're gonna only do one, do the Hib." this is for a few reasons:<br>
1) our doc had recently seen Hib cases in our area, and<br>
2) Hib is not one of those illnesses that you get and you get sick, then you fully recover and you're fine (i.e. rubella, chicken pox, etc.). the BEST case scenario with Hib is that you will be left deaf. worse case scenarios, are retardation/brain damage, and death<br>
we did it on schedule because Hib is most dangerous when children are age 1 or younger. so we didn't want to fool around with it.<br>
dd also got tetanus, but not until age 2 (she entered school part time at 2, so even tho our doc said that if she were exposed we could take her to the ER and get a tetanus booster, i was afraid of what would happen if she were exposed while not in our care. also we live around lots of horses. and dd is a VERY curious, active little one, and it's not beyond reality that she might injest some horse poop. yech. i know.) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
but what we did (thanks to the research done by our wonderful doc) was got her the adult version of the Dt. it has less toxoid than both the plain T and DPT. also, she got just 2 shots then we had her blood tested and she tested WAY over the range of immune, so no more shots were necessary. this is something i'd really reccommend, BTW, our doc was really interested b/c she'd never had a patient get the titer checked after just 2 shots. she says that the better the child's immune system, the easier it is to get a good immune response from less toxoid. if i had it to do over again, i would have checked her blood after just one shot. this is why BTW we skipped the last Hib. even tho we didn't have her tested, our doc said she was SURE dd would be immune after just 3 shots (she was prolly immune after just 1 or 2).<br><br>
ds is 13 mos. and hasn't had any shots. mostly because i just had a terrible feeling about giving him any. i was really scared, and i can't tell you why, it was just my mama intuition, so we followed it. i think it might have something to do with reading that the mercury in vax binds more strongly to testoterine, which is why some researchers postulate that autism rates are higher for boys. in any case, he will get Dt, just like hsi sister, when he turn 2, but he will get just one shot, then we will check his titer.<br><br>
good luck. these are some realy tough decisions. i really like the book "what your doctor may not tell you about childhood vaccinations" by stephanie cave. she is an MD and a naturopath (i think), so she has good solid medical evidence in there.
 

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My DD has recieved the DTaP at 2 months and at 5 months, the IPV at 6 months and the HIB and Prevnar at 7 months. My plan is to spread them out, only give one at a time and give supplements to help the immune system. I go by Stephanie Cave's book mostly. I don't know why I caved on the Prevnar at the last appointment, bad mommy, but the ped pushed it on me. Normally he doesn't so I guess it surprised me. I don't plan on getting Hep. B or A (even though it supposedly is a problem here also) and I am not certain about CP. I also plan on getting the MMR seperately but supposedly that is hard to do. I know you from other boards so feel free to PM me with any questions. I am doing this because my brother and I both had reactions to vaccinations. My DH really wants them as well so this is our comprise so far.
 
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