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I went to a M.D. last week because I thought I might have a sinus infection, and since I'd never seen him before (I asked for first available appt because I didn't want to wait three weeks), I had to fill out lots of New Patient forms and he asked a lot of questions about my health history, etc.<br><br>
He was completely flabbergasted that I haven't had a period since DS was born (one year ago). He must have asked ten times in ten different ways because he thought I didn't understand the question. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
He seemed really worried and asked if I'd had my thyroid checked lately.... Then he said, "Oh. Are you still <i>breastfeeding</i>?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/idea.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="idea"> Ding ding ding! We have a prize winner!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"><br><br>
I couldn't believe it. Is it really that rare? Then he told me that they had to wean their daughter at 5 months because "she got teeth", and he said, "Doesn't he bite you?" and started in on, "Well, <i>some</i> women really like breastfeeding, so that's something to work out between the two of you...." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blahblah.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blah blah"> He seemed to be implying that it was time to wean, but he wasn't going to push it.<br><br>
So what should I have done in a case like this? I don't plan on ever seeing this doctor again. He just seemed really uninformed about some pretty basic stuff. If I was a less informed woman, I might have been convinced that not having a period was some major medical problem and had been talked into lots of needless tests. Not to mention he wasn't exactly with it on AAP recommendations. He wasn't a jerk; he was a decent guy. Just an idiot.
 

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would you like me to send him a letter?<br><br>
really, I would just print out some stuff, slap a post it note on it and send it in the mail.<br><br>
ugh. and in Portland too. We have one of the highest breastfeeding rates in the country. He has no excuse to be so uneducated about breastfeeding.<br><br>
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He was giving poor breastfeeding information to a woman who came in to get her sinuses checked.<br><br>
This is a man who needs some brochures from LLL.<br><br>
This is also a man who needs a letter stating that he would have been better off asking *why* you hadn't had a period in so long and that you would appreciate it if he would refer nursing mothers to a licensed IBCLC (International board-certified lactation consultant, am I missing a letter, did I add a letter?) if he has future concerns about his breastfeeding clients.<br><br>
Also, start and end by saying what you liked about how he handled the sinus problem.
 

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He gave me some nasal spray to ease the sinus symptoms (it's not really an infection - just lingering irritation from a bad cold). To his credit, there were signs all over his exam room about the dangers of over-using antibiotics and how they don't help colds and flu, so that's something.<br><br>
On the downside, he said that if I <i>did</i> develop a sinus infection, I would have to wean immediately because I would be taking antibiotics and they pass through breastmilk. I'm not sure that's entirely accurate...? I haven't looked it up yet.<br><br>
His comments seemed to be suggesting that I probably want to wean anyway and so here's a good excuse. I told him we're happy how things are, and that's when he made the "<i>some</i> women really like breastfeeding" comment.<br><br>
I'll send him some info. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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I posted about a bad experience I ahd with a dr. here a few weeks ago. He told me there were no benifits to bfing after the first few months and said I had done my "duty" . I have to see him one more time and after that i plan to send a letter with a packet of info to both him and his supervisor.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">On the downside, he said that if I <i>did</i> develop a sinus infection, I would have to wean immediately because I would be taking antibiotics and they pass through breastmilk. I'm not sure that's entirely accurate...? I haven't looked it up yet.</div>
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no, it isn't. send him info on dr hale's book while you are sending him other stuff. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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that is BS. breastfeeding women can take antbiotics! I did!! What does he think all those babies that gt them at birth do? stupid like advice IMO.<br><br>
What dr is he?
 

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There are plenty of antibiotic options that don't require weaning.<br><br>
Teething is no reason to wean.<br><br>
Five months is REALLY early to wean.<br><br>
Argh. Yes, I fall firmly into the camp of educating doctors who don't have accurate information about breastfeeding. If I can think of it and verbalize it well enough on the spot (not my strong point), I'll debate right then and there. Friendly, of course. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
If not, I wouldn't hestitate to mail information or bring it in with me the next time I'm in the office.
 

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MOST medications are safe during breastfeeding. Common antibiotics you would get for a sinus infection are safe. I finally got myself a copy of Hale's book and even the big bad antibiotics that you get in an IV in the hospital for really resistant infections are safe during breastfeeding.
 

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What is the book by Dr. Hale? I would be interested in obtaining the book. I may be sounding kind of dumb here, but I was wondering, how do you go about sending bfing info to people? What type of info do you send? Could you help me out please? I would love to help educate the ignorant!!! Rock on Mamas! I love this place
 

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I had a similar situation when my DS1 was about 15 months old, and I did nothing, but if it happened now I would definetely say something - right then, if I wasn't so surprised as to be speechless, or in a letter after the appointment.<br><br>
I went to a dermatologist, and brought my 15 mo DS along. While giving my history, I mentioned that I was still breastfeeding, so please don't prescribe anything that would be unsafe. Toward the end of the appointment, the Dr was recording his notes in one of those little recorders to be transcribed, and he said "patient has a new baby at home who is breastfeeding...." <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="huh"><br><br>
Um, no, that's not what I said. I don't have a new baby at home, I have this kid in my lap right here... unfathomable that he might still be nursing. I was too dumbfounded to say anything, but I should have called or sent a letter afterwards. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh">
 

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Not that anyone's arguing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> , but I just thought of a good reason to share breastfeeding info with *all* doctors and especially those that have given bad breastfeeding information in the past.<br><br><span>Most people believe doctors.</span><br><br>
The next person they talk to about breastfeeding deserves to have accurate information. Remember a closed mouth today might mean an early-weaned baby tomorrow.<br><br>
(or something snazzy like that)
 

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What is that supposed to mean exactly?
 

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now be truthful Gottaknit...do you nurse because you *enjoy* it? :LOL, someone should stick a toddler with a mouthful of teeth who is trying to see something on them and see how much they enjoy it, blah!<br><br>
A good source of info is <a href="http://www.kellymom.com" target="_blank">www.kellymom.com</a>. It is printable and well-researched.<br><br>
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Aha! You got me! It's ALL ABOUT ME and that's why we're "<i>still</i>" nursing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
ABand3 - That's kinda what this dr. did - he pointed at DS when he said it as if to say, "You're breastfeeding <i>him</i>? That big pudgy with <i>teeth</i>?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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This sounds like my current GP. I went to him for a sinus infection about a year ago. My dh was sick, too, and he had his appointment after mine. The doctor was horrified to learn that I was tandem nursing a one year old and a three year old. I disclosed this information because I wanted to make sure the prescription was bf friendly.<br><br>
My doctor actually tried to convince my husband to convince me to wean my older daughter. My dh just laughed and said "Dr. C, I can tell you have never been married!"<br><br>
Note to self, gotta find a new doctor....
 

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Yes. I think it is our duty to educate the doctors because they get very little bf education in medical school. Of course, I had my babies when the bf rate was lower than it is now, so I acted as though my baby was probably the only fully breastfed baby in her practice. To this day I regret not being fully honest with her about child-led weaning; my first ds weaned around his 6th birthday and my second ds when he was 4 and 1/2. Of course, I was a single mom with my first and I didn't want CPS coming around and taking him away.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> But I had no such excuse with my second. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Lots of good advice on this thread. As far as the OP question (do you educate or what to do when they're clueless) I think you have to ask yourself how much energy *you* want and are able to spend on BF education. Do it because you want to and need to, not because you feel you should, KWIM? Otherwise it can be kind of frustrating and exhausting.<br><br>
I've had all the comments made to me that gottaknit's doctor made to her at one time or another and my responses have varied from just blithely ignoring him or her and going on with what I wanted to do anyway (with or without blank stare), to mentioning that he or she might want to check out the LLL website or materials for recommendations for BF moms. I have to say, it was a lot easier for me when I was BF my second child rather than when I was trying to nurse my first (we prematurely weaned due to bad advice from several sources). If you've got a great BF relationship going and you're confident, AND you're educated, I think you're one of the best advocates around if you choose to use it.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"> Holy Moses! Honestly, I would have said something to him. Then I would have followed up with a nice package of information in the mail. What the heck? Those are really, really ignorant comments.<br><br>
My GP, gyn & my DS's ped are all so supportive & knowledgeable about breastfeeding. I must have REALLY lucked out without even knowing it. In fact I just took DS to his 2 year check up & the ped said it was great that I was still nursing & that we were cosleeping & then went on to (essentially) ridicule the AAP for the recent cosleeping announcement... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb"> (He's handsome to boot, too! LOL!)<br><br>
I guess my point is that I've taken them for granted.<br><br>
But - yeah - I'd have at least given them the shocked look & say that studies show....
 

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In this case, I would send or drop off a typed letter (offices always interpret typed letters as more official than handwritten ones) saying that I appreciated the fact that Dr. _________ did such-and-such at the last visit. [Always start with a compliment.] However, I was concerned about the assumptions Dr. ___________ made about breastfeeding, and in the interest of making sure other patients are receiving correct medical information, I would like to share some research I've done. The APA recommends exclusive breastfeeding for the first six months and breastfeeding for a minimum of one year, after which a mother should continue for as long as is mutually agreeable. The World Health Organization recommends that mothers breastfeed for *at least* two years. It's quite common and feasible to continue breastfeeding after a baby gets teeth, and I think it would be wonderful if your office offered resources for mothers who have concerns about this. There are some wonderful board certified lactation consultants in the area, as well as breastfeeding support groups, such as La Leche League. Breastfeeding is an important relationship between mother and child and mothers deserve to receive accurate information from their medical providers and support in their endeavors. I appreciate your office's cooperation toward this goal. Sincerely, me."<br><br>
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