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My fiance and I were talking yesterday after he got off work and we talked about having another baby. He implied he hopes we have a boy this time not that it matters but he would just really like to have a son. I have no problem with that I wouldnt mind. When I brought up circumcision he completely shut me down. I informed him of the things brought to my attention on MDC and even after all the valid points he still feels circumcision is the way to go. He thinks in the long run he'd be doing our son a favor. He said no woman wants to sleep with a uncircumcised man.
I was furious and we eventually agreed to disagree. Why is he so insistent not to keep our "son" (remember I'm not pregnant yet) intact? Is it me or is he crazy? Do I sound silly talking to him about this beforehand? Ladies, is he right? Does it matter?
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You absolutely should be talking about it before you get pregnant again. Most women in the world are having sex with intact men. Of course he's NOT right, he is more than wrong.
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He said no woman wants to sleep with a uncircumcised man.
I've slept with 4 men in my life. Three circumsized (one of the three was botched, poor guy) and one intact. The intact one was the guy I decided to keep forever, in part because the sex was so much more incredible than anything I'd felt before.

The foreskin is there for a reason, and anyone that's experienced a man with a fully functioning penis can understand what I'm talking about.


So, I'm sorry, but your husband is wrong. Considering the worldwide circ rates, if your husband's statement was correct, the only country regularly reproducing would be the U.S. :p
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Before u get pg u need to get this talked out not something u want to try to do while u are pg getting upset then can be hard on both of u. U need to let him know that no boy that u have will EVER be mutilated. I wouldnt risk having a son that might be circed against your wishes. Since you are not married I dont know what the law is there but in some places he could take the child without your permission and have it done if u were married after u left the hospital.

Just keep working with him on it bring it up when u are both in a good mood print stuff off and put it in the bathroom for him to read. it will be hard on him since he was cut as a baby and deep down I think most men if they think about it will become very upset. Most dont think about it and i dont blame them if something like that was done to me I wouldnt wanna think about it either.

over 85% of the world's population is intact approx 50% of those are here in the USA circ is dropping rapidly as the word gets spread about how barbaric it is. So there are many woman who have sex with intact men every single day. I just wish I was one of them
but that was stolen from me and my dh when he was just a day old
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I slept with a intact man the first one I had ever seen who's my ex just because he is a dead beat father
My DH is circumcised and assumed we'd circumcise any sons we had. Prior to getting pregnant with our first, I bought a book on circumcision (against circumcision, I don't recall the title and have since given it away) and read it. I was amazed at what I learned and I told him every time I got to a really interesting part, like how circumcision became popular in the U.S., the risks, the lack of circumcision in the rest of the world, etc. That book didn't even talk about how it is better for the woman with a foreskin (not something I'd really want to tell my circ'd DH, and I have not so far) Anyway, upon my reading to him little snippets of the book, he started to hear about and read about the bad parts of circumcision on his own (I believe the Howard Stern show was one of the sources, gag for me, but I'm glad it helped my DH learn about it) and he quickly came to the conclusion that he did not want any of his sons to be circumcised.

It worked for me, perhaps some of the above would work for you? Thank goodness you still have time to educate your husband about it all! Good luck!
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Why is he so insistent not to keep our "son" (remember I'm not pregnant yet) intact? Is it me or is he crazy? Do I sound silly talking to him about this beforehand? Ladies, is he right? Does it matter?
Read this; http://www.udonet.com/circumcision/v...ty_of_men.html

Remind your husband that 85% of world's men are intact and only USA practise routine infant circumcision. Circ rates have dropped very fast, few years ago rate was almost 100% and now 55%.

Also show him the circ video! http://intact.ca/video.html
Wrong.

And regardless, if some woman is shallow enough to not want to sleep with him because he's uncirced, it's probably not a valuable relationship anyway. It'd be like someone saying to me "uh, could you just go get some implants? I think your boobs are kinda oogie. Thanks."
Just tell him that a foreskin makes an excellent stupid woman filter. That's part of the foreskin's immune system and protective effect!
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Frank
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Just tell him that a foreskin makes an excellent stupid woman filter. That's part of the foreskin's immune system and protective effect!
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Frank
LOL
, I just might have to use that one (...by the way I love your signature there is no right way to do the wrong thing)
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He thinks in the long run he'd be doing our son a favor. He said no woman wants to sleep with a uncircumcised man.
Ask him how on earth the rest of the world hasn't died out yet.
a lot of us would much rather have an intact partner!
If you had a daughter, and her boyfriend didnn't want to sleep with her unless she had her genitals cut (mutilated, amputated, circumcised, whatever you want to call it), what would your DP think of that?

Would he say, "Well, yes, let's get her clitoris cut off to please this person" or would he say "What a loser. You're better off without him, daughter!"

Currently, for his (potential) son, your DP is saying the first. And I find that very very sad.

Edited to add: In answer to your question, NO it would not matter to me if my partner were intact or circumcised. After learning more about it, I might actually prefer an intact parter. But I'm not going to ditch my circumcised husband to go find one.
I agree that it's hard for circ'd men to come to a conclusion that circ is harmful, because then what does that mean about the choice their own parents made?

I think at the *bare minimum* of informed decision making, everyone considering circ should watch a video or view a series of photos of the circ process. That usually does it for people who think the procedure is "just a little snip". And I agree it's a good thing to work out ahead of time, before you try for a pregnancy. It might give you a good idea about how you will interect together when making choices about your children, of which circ is the first of many. It would be really difficult to get to the point of birth with no resolution. Do you go along with circ to the detriment of your son to keep peace in your relationship and live with that? Or refuse the procedure despite his protests, to the detriment of that relationship? Better to get on the same page ahead of time with gentle eduction and review of the FACTS, including the reality of what the procedure involves.

As far as not wanting to have sex with an intact man, millions of satisfied women can't be wrong
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I pretty much agree with what every one else has already said.

I just wanted to add that this is not a situation that is going to go away if you two "agree to disagree" on it. Unless you never get pregnant or have children, or do have kids and they are all girls, this situation is not going to go away.

It is better to hash it out now rather than to wait until it is "too late"> like, when you are pregnant, emotional, and getting stressed out over the matter. It is best to talk these things out now before a child or pregnancy is even in the picture.

I would go for a compromise. Such as, let him choose names for the future baby as long as you get to leave him intact. Or something like that. Eventually maybe he will come around. But this is not something that I would give in on, even a tiny bit. Genital cutting is not an option.

It needs to be hashed out, now is a better time than ever, because you are not married or pregnant yet.
The circ rate being below 60%, I'd imagine that he should be waiting for that 40% fall in the U.S. population.
My ex-husband wasn't circumsized and no one seemed to have any problem sleeping with him
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