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We were discussing tandeming the other day at a playdate and discussing whether or not it occurs in other cultures, the consensus was no, it is a crunchy granola hippie us/western thing. I figured MDC mamas would know more.<br>
So, tell me what you know<br>
Obviously, I mean for older toddlers and babies, not multiples.
 

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Have no idea but interested to hear the answer.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We were discussing tandeming the other day at a playdate and discussing whether or not it occurs in other cultures, the consensus was no, it is a crunchy granola hippie us/western thing. I figured MDC mamas would know more.<br>
So, tell me what you know<br>
Obviously, I mean for older toddlers and babies, not multiples.</div>
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Well, I lived in rural Tanzania for more than 4 years. My second child was born there. I never saw a woman tandem nursing there. Children were always weaned when a pregnant woman's milk supply started to dwindle. Women also listened to their bodies and weaned when breastfeeding their older child became a painful or unpleasant experience. I also lived for a while in Malaysia and Peru and never saw it done there, either.<br><br>
So yeah, in my opinion, it is definitely something invented by and for First World middle-class SAHMs.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but I read somewhere that the !Kung San people wean their older child whenever they find out that they are pregnant by putting foul substances on their breasts. Also, some women abstain from sex during lactation to ensure no pregnancies? I think I read this in Our Babies Ourselves. But it's been awhile ago and my memory is kinda foggy.
 

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I truly don't care. I live in <i>this</i> culture, and what the heck is up with denigrating it? Seriously. Isn't it wonderful that we live somewhere we're not risking malnutrition by nursing through pregnancy? That we can make our own decisions on these things? Just because our American culture is fairly new on the world stage doesn't mean it is worth less, IMO, especially when you look at the state of human rights (and especially <b>women's</b>) rights in a good many of the more ancient/primitive cultures out there.
 

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I think tandem nursing would be totally impractical and ridiculous in any culture less cushy and well-fed than the one I live in. But I plan to try it anyways. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I've just given myself total permission to give it up if it doesn't work for me, and to do my very best not to let ANYONE make me feel guilty about that.
 

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whoa, not trying to make anyone feel bad or guilty or anything. I was just wondering where it came from or if it came from here. You know like how babywearing is a worldwide thing, but something I had never heard of until I found MDC (besides a baby bjorn) and many of the carriers are based on styles popular in other cultures.
 

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Who's denigrating it? Sounds like people are just wondering, and talking about it. That's what we do here.
 

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Isn't exclusive BFing supposed to act as natural BC? I always though that in native cultures the women didn't become pregnant until they weaned, not the other way around.
 

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Breastfeeding is not a reliable birth control method in any culture.
 

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Um, axe to grind maybe?<br><br><br>
I agree with a pp. Who cares? Maybe the topic interests some but why in the world would I let another culture or another person, for that matter, dictate what is best for MY children?<br><br>
I can say without a doubt, that my child benefitted from not being forcibly weaned due to my pregnancy with his sibling. I didn't know anyone tandem nursing at the time but what I DID know was that I wasn't about to force him to wean before he was ready just because I live in a society that doesn't see the value of breastfeeding one child, much less two at a time.<br><br>
I say two breasts do the job just fine and are there for a reason.
 

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See, I would see it just the opposite.<br><br>
Many other cultures are parenting more intuitively. They're not reading books and talking to doctors, they're doing what feels right for their families.<br><br>
What could be more natural than letting a child nurse until they were ready to stop, especially if there are not a lot of other good sources of nutrition? Why would pregnancy change that? Sure it would be a lot harder on mom's body, but it's not impossible. Most likely if mom didn't have the proper nutrition, pregnancy would cause her milk to dry up, but that wouldn't mean the older child couldn't still nurse for comfort.
 

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I agree with the PP who suggested that a lot of women in other cultures do not get pg until weaning. When you co-sleep (which is a worldwide phenomenon) and if you aren't introducing bottles, water, etc and mom and baby are always together (which is also true in many cultures) it greatly reduces the chances of mom getting pg while nursing. My husband is from rural Thailand and with no BC he and his siblings are all spaced 4 years apart. They were all extended nursed.<br><br>
I also have to wonder a bit if women here get fertility back sooner because of our food supply (both the abundance, and the possible hormones/chemicals in it) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><br><br>
Also, many older nurslings don't nurse a lot (my oldest nurlsing has it once or twice a day), so maybe tandem nursers in other cultures just aren't visible or public that they are doing it.
 

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I am under the impression that tandem nursing DOES happen in other countries, but it's more a case of twin birth than an older and younger child. That said, I agree that it's probably not that practical for a mother in a less-well-fed country to tandem nurse...<br><br>
I am currently nursing my 15 month daughter and am in my 29th week of pregnancy, so clearly I feel that tandem nursing is right for me, buuuut I've felt I've had to cut back her nursing because it was very uncomfortable. She's pretty much just nursing for comfort now... maybe that'll change when the baby gets here and maybe not, we'll see when it gets here.
 
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