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Last cycle my LP was only 9 days. This cycle I am on 11dpo, and no AF. I am a little crampy though. What is getting me is my temp rose yesterday. I thought it may have a fluke, but today it was even higher. In the 98's wich it hasn't been all cycle. HHHMMMm.....this is messing with my mind because DH and I basically BD'd all through fertile time the past cycles, and nothing. This is the one cycle we actually avoided, and what???? FF sais I O'd on cd17. I thought I may have O'd on cd18. Anywho, we BD'd on cd13 (late that night). And on cd19. We also did a couple times during the fertile 4 days, but DH pulled out. I am just <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: So please take a look and tell me what you think. Is it even possible this month?? TIA
 

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Wow, these are some wild looking charts. Are you recently off birth control? I've never seen temps fluctuate that much...or go that low! Granted, I'm something of a newbie, so maybe others have?<br><br>
The most recent chart looks good for pg. When will you poas? Keep us posted!
 

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In the 98's wich it hasn't been all cycle. HHHMMMm.....this is messing with my mind because DH and I basically BD'd all through fertile time the past cycles, and nothing. This is the one cycle we actually avoided, and what???? FF sais I O'd on cd17. I thought I may have O'd on cd18. Anywho, we BD'd on cd13 (late that night). And on cd19. We also did a couple times during the fertile 4 days, but DH pulled out. I am just <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: So please take a look and tell me what you think. Is it even possible this month?? TIA</div>
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OK, what is with your OPK? They were all negative?<br><br>
OK, so I agree with you, I think you would have O'd on cd 18. With BD on the 13th that seems like a very long time for sperm to last honestly. The thing about cd 19, if you had already ovulated the sperm needs about 12 hours for capacitation to occur so that it's even ready to fertilize.<br><br>
But it is definitely still possible, and some semen is released while DTD even if the man doesn't have an orgasm.<br><br>
I'm actually the result of the "pull and pray" method myself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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<b>phatchristy</b>: your mother <i>told</i> you that? I have to say, that is more information than I want to know about where I came from. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br><br><b>Mammab21</b>, obviously it's too early to be sure, but I must say your chart looks like it has potential to be heading triphasic. And we all know what that means ...
 

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<b>Erinmacey</b> Yes, I do have some pretty crazy temps. Last cycle was nuts, but now that I got the hang of it, this cycle was deffinately readable. In other words, they stay normal enough to see the shift, wich is the part that matters. But my temps are allways low. I still BF at night, so maybe thats it. I will not (hopefully) be POAS for a while. With my DD it took me 2 weeks after missed period to get a BFP. So, if I can hold out, I will. But will deff keep you all posted.<br><br><b>PhatCrhisty</b> OPK's......ya, what fun..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> I didn't ever get a + last cycle either. Allthough, this cycle, CD 18 was the darkest it has ever been, could have maybe even counted it as +. I entered it as + on FF just to see, and it change O day to CD18 with solid cross hairs. So I am sticking with CD18 at O day. If we BD'd on CD19, it takes 12 hours for sperm to get to egg, but egg can last 12 to 24 hours. So if that perticular egg lived long, sperm could have just cought it?? right??? Cuz, you are right, I doubt they lived 5 days or so, that is just quite a stretch.<br><br><b>Quate</b> Thanx, I agree. We will see what the next days will bring.
 

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I think there's a chance it's heading triphasic.<br><br>
A girl on another forum I'm on is pregnant, and the last time they DTD was 5 days pre-O. (And would you believe that long before and they're having a boy!)
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think there's a chance it's heading triphasic.<br><br>
A girl on another forum I'm on is pregnant, and the last time they DTD was 5 days pre-O. (And would you believe that long before and they're having a boy!)</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="jaw2"> We were kinda hoping for a boy the next time around too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"> This is deffinately reasuring.<br><br>
UPDATE- I caved <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> That didn't take long. POAS, and it was BFN. My CP is low, closed, but soft, and I have some EWCM today <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> I am kinda thinking AF is going to rear her ungly head here soon. But either way this is good news for us this cycle. At the least, this means my LP is longer then originally thought. We will just have to wait and see....<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">: (and there my friends, is the record for most icons ever used in one paragraph, lol)
 

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Just thought I would post another update here. I POAS this morning again, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> Another BFN. I moved my O day to CD18 wich only puts me at 11dpo. Still no AF. No cramps now. No AF symptoms. I was so tired today and yesterday that I had to take an afternoon nap, I literally could not stay awake and had to beg DD to take a nap with me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Also DD told me my 'booba milk' tasted 'icky' today. Honestly for some reason I really feel prego. But then again I have felt prego pretty much every cycle, and havent' been, so who knows. I will probably be peeing on a lot of sticks cuz I got some cheapies to hold be over until a BFP or AF. So you will all be hearing from me again soon I'm sure.
 

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Ummm, pulling out is really not a trustworthy method of BC. I believe that pre-cum, that tiny bit of clear fluid on the tip of the penis, has alot of sperm!!! So, you might as well have BD'd all those times he pulled out.<br><br>
Either way, I hope you get the results you want! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Ummm, pulling out is really not a trustworthy method of BC. I believe that pre-cum, that tiny bit of clear fluid on the tip of the penis, has alot of sperm!!! So, you might as well have BD'd all those times he pulled out.<br><br>
Either way, I hope you get the results you want! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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There was another thread on the fertility forums talking about this topic. I looked it up, and when used perfectley, this method has a failure rate of 5%. So in actuality it is quite reliable if DH has the selft controll to pull out on time every single time. I don't believe the amount of sperm in pre-cum is of much concern. Although, you are right it is not 100% reliable. FWIW we would love to be prego this cycle. If we arent', our plans are to keep charting and TTC after summer is over.
 

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Well, Dh and I used FAM w/withdrawal for 4 years until we started TTC. We got pg on our second try, so I'm pretty sure we weren't just "lucky" the previous 4 years of withdrawing. It has a lot to do with the man's sensitivity and control.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow, these are some wild looking charts. Are you recently off birth control? I've never seen temps fluctuate that much...or go that low! Granted, I'm something of a newbie, so maybe others have?<br><br>
The most recent chart looks good for pg. When will you poas? Keep us posted!</div>
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you wanna see wild chart? check my siggy.<br><br>
Mamab21.. it's looking good, are you late yet?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I looked it up, and when used perfectly, this method has a failure rate of 5%. So in actuality it is quite reliable if DH has the self control to pull out on time every single time. I don't believe the amount of sperm in pre-cum is of much concern. Although, you are right it is not 100% reliable.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, Dh and I used FAM w/withdrawal for 4 years until we started TTC. We got pg on our second try, so I'm pretty sure we weren't just "lucky" the previous 4 years of withdrawing. It has a lot to do with the man's sensitivity and control.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: It's not as effective as hormonal BC or abstinence, but 96% effective rate isn't anything to scoff at. We practice FAM with WD, and a 4% chance of getting pregnant is OK with us at this point in time.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Ummm, pulling out is really not a trustworthy method of BC. I believe that <b>pre-cum, that tiny bit of clear fluid on the tip of the penis, has alot of sperm!!!</b> So, you might as well have BD'd all those times he pulled out.</td>
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I just wanted to address this, because a lot of people believe it, but most scientific sources say no. (This is just Wiki, but it says the same things I've read everywhere.)<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow, these are some wild looking charts. Are you recently off birth control? I've never seen temps fluctuate that much...or go that low! Granted, I'm something of a newbie, so maybe others have?</div>
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Yeah, those are pretty normal temp fluctuations, and they're a tiny bit low, but not outside of the norm.<br><br><br>
Mamab21, I hope you get a definitive answer soon!
 

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Did you POAS today?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Thanx everyone for your responses. Wow, well, I POAS AGAIN!!! Still BFN. My temps are going down now. They are still above where they were after O, but dropping signifacantly. I'm thinking AF is coming, but I don't have cramps or anything. DH is making a prediction that AF will show tomorrow. He is usually pretty intune with me, and can sometimes tell AF is coming before I can. But this time I think he is just guessing.<br><br>
I was really hoping DD was a fluke and next pregnancy I will be able to get a BFP at like 10dpo like some, but I am losing faith for that. I kinda have a feeling I will have to wait. Oh ya, and to answer someones question of if I'm late, its kinda hard to answer. Last cycle I got AF on 9dpo, and I am currently on 13dpo. I don't know how reliable last cycle was though, so its hard to say exactly how long my LP usually is.
 
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