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I don't know if I can post this here but I was reading the newspaper and it had a poll in it...this is what it was "Do you think families with children should be removed from an airplane if their child is misbehaving before a flight?"...The crazyness what that 61 percent said yes and 39 percent said no...Come on now who's kids are perfect? What all would you concider misbehaving I mean come on...Grrr this makes me so mad...I dunno maybe I am just use to misbehaving kids lol<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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That survey most likely stems from <a href="http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO40932/" target="_blank">Click Here</a> this news story.<br>
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I didn't see that thank you...man that is very upsetting and to drug that little girl up is upsetting too but I can't imagine they would know what else to do...That's pure insanity...I mean yes it's frustrating when a child is throwing a fit but come on people...I know which flight I am never going to take lol
 

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OMG!! This is insane!!! The poor little girl was probably scared in the plane, which is normal. I can't imagine being forced of a plane because your child is crying! This is horrible...
 

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I guess, since I grew up having family that worked for the FAA, I don't have a problem with this. They would have kicked off a 53 or 23 or whatever aged person for not wearing a seatbelt (according to the rules). Why should it be any different for a child? My child knows that he HAS to wear his seatbelt when we get in the car, and I feel that this is no different. The only thing that I don't think has been addressed is whether or not the family was offered a car seat. The airlines keep them on hand for customers that need them or who missed flights or whatever. If the child refused to sit in a regular seat, would she have let them strap her in a car seat?<br><br>
I don't believe they got kicked off the flight for having a child that was crying. I have been on many flights with screaming (buckled in) babies that did not get kicked off the flight. I expect for children to not be happy when they get on a flight. As a mom, I realize that not all babies or children like to fly. They got kicked off the flight because the child would not put on a seatbelt. There is a difference.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">I don't believe they got kicked off the flight for having a child that was crying. I have been on many flights with screaming (buckled in) babies that did not get kicked off the flight. I expect for children to not be happy when they get on a flight. As a mom, I realize that not all babies or children like to fly. <b>They got kicked off the flight because the child would not put on a seatbelt. There is a difference.</b></td>
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Totally agree. It comes down to safety. If the child (or anybody) isn't in her/her seatbelt, they must leave the plane.<br><br>
This isn't a society v. crying/loud child situation.
 

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I have to agree with the PP who said it was a safety issue, not a "Oh my a crying child? That's just rude!" issue.<br><br>
DS has been fussy and whiny and even screamed a few times on flights. We never got kicked off. He always used his car seat and now he's big enough for a regular seat.
 

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wait i am a litte confused....so they purchased a seat for the child that was in front of their seats and neither parent planned on sitting next to the child??? That was bad planning on their part! i would have made sure at check in that at least 1 parent could sit next to the child and calm her down.....they are usually very accomidating about situations like that!<br><br>
so i say shame on those parents....and shame on the flight attendants for not trying to SOLVE the problem!!! bad planning all around
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">wait i am a litte confused....so they purchased a seat for the child that was in front of their seats and neither parent planned on sitting next to the child??? That was bad planning on their part! i would have made sure at check in that at least 1 parent could sit next to the child and calm her down.....they are usually very accomidating about situations like that!<br><br>
so i say shame on those parents....and shame on the flight attendants for not trying to SOLVE the problem!!! bad planning all around</div>
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No, they had three seats in a row. They wanted to leave the child in mommas lap because the child would not put on a seat belt.<br>
Anyhow, the thing is, the flight was already delayed 15 minutes, and the family wanted more time to calm her down. There were 120 other passengeers that had to make connecting flights or otherwise. The world does not stop because a child is throwing a tantrum and refusing to cooperate. I think the airline did what was in the best interest of the majority, and what they did was right. The family was not only *refunded* their flight money, but flown out the next day for free AND given three round trip tickets anywhere in the world they wanted to go. They are ridiculous for wanting to file a lawsuit and making this story public the way they have.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">well that's it. i want to get people who wear perfume/cologne kicked off. they are way more offensive to me.</div>
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Should be the same rule for children as for adults. If you're not buckled the flight cannot take off. A 2 yo, 12 yo, 56 yo, or 102 yo would be kicked off for the same reason. I really can't believe that 2 parents could not physically get their daughter in the carseat. Ds is not always happy about going in his, but it's not negotiable. Plus, when we're flying we plan lots of distractions and such so that it's not a biggie for him to get in his seat. I think if anything the parents are at fault. Had the child been screaming yet buckled up they would have been allowed to remain on the flight. The tantrum was not the issue, safety was.
 

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...I am always wondering why it is that children over __ years old, and adults, have to be buckled on an airplane, but it isn't mandatory for infants? I mean obviously if the plane is in the sky and going down, a seatbelt isn't gonna make a lot of difference so the only thing I can surmise is that you would want people strapped in for take-off because a bit of an accident on the runway might not be deadly if passengers are wearing belts, plus that's when there's most likely to be movement that people could fall over, plus it just keeps people on their butts and not getting in the crew's way for a while; and a little baby isn't exactly going to wander off mom's lap and into the isle, but is <i>safe</i> for them if there is turbulence or an accident on the runway? I just don't know...?
 

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If someone refuses to put their seatbelt on and delays <b>an entire plane full of people</b> than heck yes I want their butts off of the plane. I'm not about to sit and wait for a ridiculous amount of time for someone to put on a seatbelt. Park your butt down and belt up or get off of the plane.
 

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FAA regulations madate seatbelts or appropriate child restraints for all people 2 and over. They looked at making it mandatory for under 2, but found that the additional cost would cause more people to drive and there would actually be more deaths in the under 2 crowd from highway accidents then there were from airplane crashes. I mean, in most cases if the plane is crashing no one is going to survive, but that is really rare. The seatbelt/child seat rule is so that people don't get thrown about in the event of turbulance/rough take off/rough landing. Same principle about baggage being secured so it does not become a flying missile and cause injury to passengers.
 

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We just flew this past week. By the end of the day on our return trip dd was exhausted and strung out from traveling. On the last leg she refused to buckle in and started tantruming. We did the usual redirecting etc, and finally just held her down and buckled her in. Off we went, and within 10 minutes she was over her frustration, quietly reading books with me.<br><br>
I don't think it does any service to a toddler to leave them feeling as though their negative emotions wield such power over other people and over their environment. Because they really just don't have control at that age. That's tough to leave them feeling responsible for angry parents, pissed flight crew and a plane full of furious, resentful people - and poor tired baby stuck in a strange city overnight far from home.<br><br>
Just step up and take a little control when your toddler isn't able to. That's what parents are for.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">No, they had three seats in a row. They wanted to leave the child in mommas lap because the child would not put on a seat belt.<br>
Anyhow, the thing is, the flight was already delayed 15 minutes, and the family wanted more time to calm her down. There were 120 other passengeers that had to make connecting flights or otherwise. The world does not stop because a child is throwing a tantrum and refusing to cooperate. I think the airline did what was in the best interest of the majority, and what they did was right. The family was not only *refunded* their flight money, but flown out the next day for free AND given three round trip tickets anywhere in the world they wanted to go. They are ridiculous for wanting to file a lawsuit and making this story public the way they have.</div>
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A friend of mine mentioned this to me the other day. She was upset over it and mainly because she lets her little boy get away with anything. She said "how would you feel if you were those parents and you HAD to be somewhere important and you got kicked off the plane"? I told her I would have just held him down and strapped him in. Then I said to her "what if you were someone else on the plane that had to get to a family member in an emergency and there was a 2 year old and her family holding up the plane" She kind of changed her mind. I think the airline did the right thing. I think the parents should have just stepped in and made the child sit. I think it is rediculous that they are suing. Just goes to show you that people will sue for anything they can these days.
 
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