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I am in tears right now, so upset that I may not be able to feed my baby. THis started a few days ago, I noticed a sudden drop in my supply, also a decrease in DDs nursing. She has been happy, not complaining or anything, I chalked it up top just growing - but shouldnt she need more, not less? Ive been drinking Mothers Milk tea by Traditional MEdicine (anise, fennel & caraway) and trying to pump when DD isnt nursing (if I try to feed her when she doesnt want it, she just WONT...) but nothing seemed to be working. Today I know she didnt pee as much as she normally does. Just about an hour ago, DD had her bath and was getting ready for her late night nursing, but nohting came out. She got so upset, wailing and crying, hasnt cried that way in awhile. I had to get DH to fix a bottle of milk I had pumped previously, which helped her fall asleep eventualy. I tried to pump after this happened, got about 10 drops.<br><br>
I also have just gotten my first post partum period - could this be the cause? or is the dryness causing this?<br><br>
What are the signs of infant dehydration/malnutrition?<br><br>
To top it all off, DH said something that really upset me - basically "THis was going t happen eventually, just deal with it". After some discussion, he told me he wasnt trying to be mean, it just sounded that way. But it made me upset.<br>
Please, someone respond - I need help, advice, anything...Shes only 5 months old, I dont want her on formula nd I only have one little baggie of EBM in the freezer left..
 

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eat a big bowl of oatmeal. Have you checked out the links on the kellymom site? This is one of her suggestions and there are lots more.
 

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mothers milk tea is what worked for me, i see you're taking it, thats all the advice I have, but I wanted to send you some big hugs!!! I've heard the kelly site is good too!!!
 

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Her decreasing her frequency of feedings alone would not be an indicator of a milk supply decrease. She could be getting more during the feedings she is taking. That said - the dry diapers thing sounds like something to pay attention to. Periods can reduce your supply for a few days a little. Pumping is not an indicator of what you have. Worry about your supply can inhibit your let-down and that could be the cause of why nothing happened at the last feeding. To your DH - your body does not suddenly shut down and stop making milk. His suggestion was just silly and hurtful too and DEFINATELY medically inaccurate.<br><br>
Solutions: eat a lot of oatmeal. Try to spend more down time and try to nurse nurse nurse that baby as often as you can get her to. Get in a warm bathtub together, cuddle in bed. If you can, go bra-less - free hanging breasts fill with milk more frequently/fully than bound ones (my lactation consultant told me this was the reason for my oversupply issues). Pump after feedings even if you are dry - the stimulation will tell your body you need to be making more. Visualize the milk coming down your ducts and out your nipples - this helped me immensly with let down issues.<br><br>
HTH
 

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Also - drink a lot of water right before each feeding. This helps my let-down as well. Try to relax and not worry (I know - hard) when you're nursing. Think to yourself - you've sustained her so well this far and you can keep doing it. You're not going to suddenly lose your ability.<br><br>
Question though - are you taking any new herbs/medications? You need to look them up and see if they affect milk supply. For example sage I think can dry up your supply.
 

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hmm. i do use sage in cooking, but have been for a long time. No other herbs/meds.<br><br>
I am trying not to worry, which is so hard! I just keep looking at my little girl and knowing (hoping) that she will tell me if shes in trouble.<br><br>
I already go bra-less most of the day, I am going to start eating oatmeal daily, and pumping after each nursing.<br><br>
DH tries, but he doesnt know how he sounds sometimes. He and I got into it after that comment, (after he didnt notice me storming off and crying), but I dont think he really gets it, tht I need his support and encouragement... Are alll men like this???<br><br>
All this makes me angry with myself for not liking my big leaky boobs... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/guilty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="guilty">
 

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A couple of my BFing friends have gotten AF recently, and yes they said their supply went down for a couple of days. Hopefully yours will pick back up. The pps' suggestions were all good ones.
 

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Here's a <a href="http://www.breastfeed-essentials.com/menstruation.html" target="_blank">link</a> about breastfeeding during your period. It says to take a calcium/magnesium supplement to prevent the drop in milk supply.<br><br>
Try not to worry, I think it will come right back up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br>
You can talk to a LLL leader and maybe go to a meeting. They are so very helpful and supportive too.<br>
You can go here to find a group near you<br><a href="http://www.lalecheleague.org/WebIndex.html" target="_blank">http://www.lalecheleague.org/WebIndex.html</a><br><br>
I think some DHs are more supportive then others. My Dh was not very supportive with our first child, but he is coming around with our second. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
Here's what I would do:<br><br>
drink tons of water<br>
eat lots of oatmeal<br>
nurse nurse nurse<br>
try to go to bed with her (topless) for three days- do nothing but nurse<br>
take baths together often<br><br>
good luck! I bet your supply will perk right up.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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Everyone is always so wonderfully helpful on this forum! Thanks everyone... Everything seems a little better today, hope it keeps going this direction.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rocks.jpg" style="border:0px solid;" title="mdc rocks">
 

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I am so glad to hear that!
 

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Well, things may be a little beter, but still not where I used to be. Last night, DD had a horrible scare and needed to nurse, but when nothng was coming, she got SO upset, havent seen her like this in months, and I broke open the free sample formula.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bawling.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bawl"> Im so mad that I had to do that. I pumped immediatly after that, got a tiny bit. (I know they say not to go by pumping volume, but I used to ba able to get 2-3 ounces easily) SHe got a tummy ache afterwards... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/guilty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="guilty"><br>
Im just hoping this has to do with AF and is not permanent.
 

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Oh my goodness! That is a slippery slope- please don't give her that again unless and until it's determined to be completely necessary. I don't think you can be sure your supply is dwindling because of that incident. Sometimes my milk takes longer to let down than others- couldn't it be that she was already upset, and when it didn't let down right away, she was mad?<br><br>
You need an IBCLC. Call one tomorrow! You need to find out how much she's getting, to either set your mind at ease, or make a plan for supplementing and getting your supply back up. I am sure you can rent a scale that will let you see how many ounces she takes in at a feeding.
 

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No, I dont plan on giving formula ever again, but she needed somehting. SHe only ate about an ounce. (would water have been better? or just let her cry?) She was definalty already very upset, and sleepy. I had also just been through a fright, which Im sure didnt help matters. (she rolled off her changing table <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/bag.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Bag">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"> - was fine, but very scared)<br>
Ive been putting off contacting an LC because we dont have much money for things other than food and bills right now, but if this continues, I will have to. Is there a way of knowing by looking at a baby if they are underfed/dehydrated?
 

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Just keep offering the breast. Bottles and formula will make your problem much MUCH worse right now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
How are her diapers? That's how you tell if they're dehydrated. Here's a link that tells you how many she should have:<br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/enoughmilk-older.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/enoughmilk-older.html</a><br><br>
-Angela
 

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I'm not sure if you can get this where you are but there is a company here called New Roots that makes an awesome tincture called Mum Ma Milkstream. I used it and it worked within two days. I also drank lots of H2O and had lots of Blessed Thistle tea. Hope that helps.
 

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She goes through around 8 cloth diapers per day, (but we have started trying the EC thing, so when we catch it thats one less diaper) her pee doesnt smell like much, if at all. She is pooping less (quantity and frequency) than I remember her pooping several weeks ago. The poop looks the same though...<br><br>
I keep hoping beyond hope that this is all AF related, it started a few days before I got it, but it sure seems like a drastic difference.<br><br>
I will probably go to the Whole FOods market this weekend for different teas....
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> I am sorry you are having a hard time. I know it's scary and stressful but like a pp said try to relax and trust in your body. Get yourself the tea and then focus on nothing but you and your baby and your nursing relationship.<br>
At the risk of sounding like a broken record <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> , conact LLL. They are supportive, experienced, and free. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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UPDATE: It looks like it was all related to getting my period - AF is gone now and my supply is back up to where it was. I've got a pooping machine again!<br><br>
Is ths much difference in supply normal? Im going to get some of that calcium/magnesium supplement for next month. Also will call LLL for more advice. I have been trying to keep a stash in the freezer for when DH/grandparents watch her, and am back to getting 2+ ounces per pumping session. Would it be a bad idea to give her EBM next month, if this happens again? I would, of course, still nurse her, but if she seems hungry? (although, she never really seemed "hungry" last week - we are in synch i guess!)<br><br>
Im so happy! I'll never take these leaky boobs for granted again! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb">
 
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