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DH and I have decided to try EC with this babe, and I'm currently reading "<a href="http://www.natural-wisdom.com/" target="_blank">Diaper Free</a>" by Ingrid Bauer, but I have some questions for those of you who have already EC'ed with a child, or plan to with this one.<br><br>
*Will you use CD (or sposies or whatever) with this child, or truly go "diaper free?"<br><br>
*If you are going to use CDs, how many do you think you will buy (or need) for the first few months?<br><br>
*Are you going to start out right from birth, or wait a bit?<br><br>
*Are you going to attempt EC all day and night, or in steps (like just morning pee first, then after nursing, then afternoon, etc.)<br><br>
*Are some clothes easier or more difficult if you EC?<br><br>
I know I could go over to the EC forum, but I thought I'd just start here and see how many of us are going to be doing this so maybe we can help each other out! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Yay another EC'er!<br><br>
We have close friends who are ECing their baby boy (who will be a year when our little one is born) and they've had great success, so we're going to follow their model. They started from birth, basically just keeping him naked and using non-folded cloth diapers so they could tell when he was peeing and made the "pssss" sound when he did - when he was about 9 days old they had their first successful pee in the sink. What they found really useful was that R. (the husband) was "responsible" for the elimination stuff to start with - K. was too occupied with hormonal fluctuations, breastfeeding, not sleeping - she says she couldn't have done it that early without R. taking the lead on it. But it was totally worth it to start then; when he got a bit older (a month maybe?) they moved to prefold cloth diapers as backup but were doing, like, 2 loads of laundry a week and only had a dozen diapers; they didn't miss many pees and rarely a poop. By 3 months he was out of diapers entirely.<br><br>
They have some good strategies going - take a bucket in the car, don't be afraid to use city planters & flowerbeds, and above all make it fun. Their son gets SUCH a happy little grin on his face when he pees!<br><br>
We also got some awesome advice on the clothing front - first and foremost, do NOT get one-piece outfits. (Little t-shirts that snap at the crotch are ok) Anything you have to unzip, unsnap or unfasten down the legs is first of all too time-consuming and secondly the legs are hard to keep track of and tend to get peed on a lot! We're planning to use a lot of little "sacks" with arms and drawstring bottoms, but pull-up elastic-waist pants work fine. And nudity is always an option unless you're outside in the winter.<br><br>
K. wrote an article on this for a local parenting magazine - send me a private message if you want me to e-mail it to you; I have it in MS Word format.
 

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There was a thread about ECing a long time ago here. I'm surprised not more have answered. We are planning on ECing this one. I have about 3 dozen contours and prefolds from when Willem was an infant so that's what we'll be using. Actually, I think I might cut a half dozen prefolds in half or thirds sideways (and then sew/serge up the ends) so there is no folds and use a snappi to fasten. Even the infant size prefolds were huge on Willem for a while. We'll see. NEED TO GET THE BOOK!!!! I keep forgetting to order it.<br><br>
Dh is all for it so I hope he'll help out in the beginning because if my postpartum period is ANYTHING like it was last time I won't stick with it without his help. (He's the reason we continued to CD when I was crazy with that overload of hormones <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> ).<br><br>
Thanks for the clothing advice spughy. Hadn't even thought of that. I have several of the footless onesies but lots with legs. I don't think I could do naked, especially in the beginning... it'll be too cold up here. Newborns can't regulate their temperature in the beginning, or at least that's what I have read and experienced.<br><br>
A few have mentioned that they had to make the choice between wearing their baby and ECing. Personally, I think I'll concentrate on the ECing part in the beginning and then on babywearing. From what I understand, once you and your baby learn to communicate about elimination slinging isn't a problem.<br><br>
I have talked online to a few people who EC'd and one mother said that she wasn't strict about it at all and she still was successful (hasn't changed a poopy dipe since 2 months!!!) So yeah, I want to start straight from birth but I'll just play it by ear. BTW, my 18 month old pooped in his potty yesterday (well, some of it got on the floor... but he managed to get all the pee in!!!). Maybe ECing the baby will enforce his potty learning <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/upsidedown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="upsidedown"> .<br><br>
My favorite EC site so far is <a href="http://www.freewebs.com/freetoec/index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.freewebs.com/freetoec/index.htm</a> . She has a lot of links there that were really interesting.<br><br>
Alright, I'm probably rambling and not answering your questions AMY but there's my 2 cents worth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blahblah.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blah blah"> .
 

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I have been considering CD and/or EC for this baby. Last time I used the disposible diapers (still am). EC just makes sense. But I have a lot of reading and research to do in just 3 months if I want to do EC. CD seems a lot cheaper than disposibles, but time consuming if I clean them myself. Lots to think about. I'll be watching this thread to see if anyone else has good ideas. Thanks for brining up the topic!
 

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We're hoping to do a low-stress, modified EC, too. I'm just not sure that worrying about recognizing every cue and catching every pee is going to be all that enjoyable for me -- I work very hard at not getting overly stressed out when I don't meet my own sometimes unrealistic expectations, and taking an all-or-nothing approach to diapering seems like setting myself up for disaster. Willemsmama, I was so glad to read that you knew of successes with a less-than-strict approach. That's our plan, with CDing along side of it.
 

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I'm planning on ECing again. With DS1 we did diaper-on ECing because it was just too hard for me to keep watching for pees all the time. It worked great, and there was a period there when we never had poop in a diaper. But then we moved across the country and stayed at my mom's house for two weeks, where I felt bad about ECing, and after that DS had really forgotten a lot, and we sort of reverted to a sort of freer form version of CDing.<br><br>
We didn't start ECing until DS was a month or two old, and it was fine.
 

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im definitly going to try my best to do diaper free/EC i have a few friends who have had great success with this.. they used diapers sometimes, at night and out and about at first.. i do have coth that i will use, but id like to do as little diaper laundry as possible since i dont have a washing machine and dryer in the house... so i have alterior motives as well.. i think its an amazing gift to give your child if you can be dedicated to it.. but im going to just see how it goes... i havnt read any books on it yet, but a friend is lending me one and there is a diaper free group in my area that meets pretty regularily as well <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Yay! There are more here than just me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> I might've missed that earlier thread (or forgotten it...). I really enjoyed "Diaper Free" and finished it just yesterday actually. I'm still in the middle of "Infant Potty Training" by Laurie Bouke (I hope I spelled her name right...) because I'm taking a break from EC research and reading "The Continuum Concept" right now :LOL<br><br>
*Will you use CD (or sposies or whatever) with this child, or truly go "diaper free?"<br><br>
We are planning on having prefold CDs to put the baby on (as opposed to putting the diaper on the baby) and to use to wipe up messes, etc. We're also asking for a lambswool to put under baby at night (in the family bed). We have about 12 snappy, fitted CDs which should work for when we go out somewhere if I'm not comfortable with the prefolds/diaperless though I'm planning on staying at home with the baby for several weeks at least.<br><br>
*If you are going to use CDs, how many do you think you will buy (or need) for the first few months?<br><br>
As many as people will give us and as many as we can find at garage sales, etc. If we don't have enough then we can always go to a thrift store and find more absorbant cloths because they don't necessarily have to be diapers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Our friend's mother wanted to get us a diaper service, but we really don't want even the temptation to use them all the time and I don't think it'll be that necessary. I want to go skin to skin for a while since it'll be cold around here and the prefolds should work just fine for that. I think she's going to get us the lambswool <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
*Are you going to start out right from birth, or wait a bit?<br><br>
Right away. I know it's possible and not necessarily more difficult to start later, but since I'll be with baby all the time anyhow, I might as well start 'em off how I want. I like the fact that newborns pee a lot so it's pretty easy to catch several in one day and otherwise I would just go through tons of diapers (not saying I won't even with starting from birth... but maybe a couple fewer than otherwise <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> )<br><br>
*Are you going to attempt EC all day and night, or in steps (like just morning pee first, then after nursing, then afternoon, etc.)<br><br>
As much as I can and as much as baby and I feel up to. I'd like to do it full-time because I don't like the idea of babies wearing diapers after reading up on this - not that I would judge anyone who didn't do EC, it's just how I feel personally.<br><br>
*Are some clothes easier or more difficult if you EC?<br><br>
I've heard it's good to be able to get them on and off quickly. I hadn't thought about the snappy legs getting in the way, but I guess they would! I'm trying to find as many newborn gowns as possible because those seem to me to be the easiest next to bare skin to skin in a sling (protected by a prefold) which is what I want to do while at home.<br><br><br>
I know nobody in real life who had even heard of this concept before I told them about it.... so my ideas and plans will probably change once I actually start doing this. I've read tons of testimonials by families who have done this successfully and I have the full support of my mother, but not having a real live example is slightly daunting. I guess I'll just have to be the real live example <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
love and peace. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave">
 

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My best friend started ECing her son when he was about 6 months old and he hasn't really needed diapers since.<br><br>
Before I saw her do it I thought it was insane. I refered to it as the "baby in a bowl" people. But then I watched how much happier he was when he could "eliminate" in the sink/toilet/outside/etc. and how so many of his fussy moments were really just him needing to go to the bathroom. So we read the Diaper Free book and it convinced me. My friend's son in 17 months and sits on the regular potty with a special seat. He has been "potty trained" (for lack of a better word) for quite a while now.<br><br>
We are planning on taking a no pressure approach to it. Leaving diapers off when possible, peeing the babe after naps, after nursing, etc. Making cueing noises whenever we see him or her peeing or pooing, etc. But I know in the very beginning I will probably miss most of them while I am learning about my baby and how to be a Mom. I tend to be really hard on myself too, so I am going to attempt to not stress about it.<br><br>
I have heard that gowns are the best thing for ecing newborns and never have anything that does not entirely open up on the bottom. It has helped us decide what to get at yard sales. We are going to take as many cloth dipes as people will give us, but we are not planning on buying anything. I have a whole mess of newborn prefolds, and we were given some medium size AIOs, and I bought 14 size 1 kissaluvs at a consignment store (for $50 go me!). I figure if we have too many we don't use them and then hand them down, save them for the next babe, or sell them. Now we need covers.<br><br>
I can't believe so many of the November Moms are planning on ECing. I'm glad I am not alone.<br><br>
-Sarah
 

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I did EC with my DD, and I'll be doing it again with #2. (This baby is going to be a boy, so it will be a slightly different experience.)<br><br>
*Will you use CD (or sposies or whatever) with this child, or truly go "diaper free?"<br><br>
I plan to do what I did the first time - start out using diapers pretty much full time, and just take them off when I think the baby needs to pee, gradually moving toward more and more diaper free time as the baby starts peeing less frequently, and I get better at predicting when he needs to go, and the weather gets hotter. By the time Lindy was 6 months old, it was hot and she was spending a lot of time diaperless, and by the time she was 8 months old we didn't need diapers anymore.<br><br>
*If you are going to use CDs, how many do you think you will buy (or need) for the first few months?<br><br>
Based on my experience last time, about as many as I would need if I weren't doing EC. I guess I had about 2 dozen last time - a mixture of prefolds, fitteds and AIOs. (Eventually, I was able to start using a lot fewer diapers, but for the first few months, EC definitely didn't cut down on diaper use.)<br><br>
*Are you going to start out right from birth, or wait a bit?<br><br>
Last time, I didn't start till DD was 2 months, and that worked out fine. This time, I expect I'll start doing something right from birth. How much I do will probably depend on how I feel physically and mentally, and how much difficulty I'm having with other stuff like getting breastfeeding established and getting enough sleep. In the first few weeks, I'll probably try to spend some time with the baby diaperless or in a diaper with no cover so I can start to figure out his patterns and signals, and I'll probably try to start using the "psss" cue when I see him peeing. Beyond that, I'm not sure.<br><br>
*Are you going to attempt EC all day and night, or in steps (like just morning pee first, then after nursing, then afternoon, etc.)<br><br>
I think I'll probably do it in steps, the way I did last time. At first, I usually just took Lindy to pee whenever I was changing her diaper (because I had found that she very often peed as I was changing her), and any time I found her diaper dry and knew it had been long enough since she peed that she might need to go soon. I didn't worry about EC while we were out of the house, or at night, or while I was really busy trying to get stuff done at home.<br><br>
I gradually started trying to catch more pees at home, and also doing EC on outings when it was convenient, and by the time she was about 5 months I found EC often went better when we were out than when we were home. She just naturally started staying dry at night most of the time (at least until 5-6 AM) by the time she was around 6 months, and once she reached that point I started making the effort to get up and take her to the bathroom in the early morning, and then we stopped using diapers at night and I would take her to pee in the middle of the night any time I thought she might need to go.<br><br>
*Are some clothes easier or more difficult if you EC?<br><br>
As others have said, the less stuff you have to undo the better. But I found I could use just about anything and it really wasn't that much trouble to undo the snaps or whatever when I wanted to take her to pee - at least until she was old enough to start struggling and protesting while I was getting her dressed or undressed. After that point, leg snaps were really hard to deal with and separate pull-on pants were way easier than one-piece outfits (but I think that would be true whether or not you were doing EC.) Also, once you start doing EC in public restrooms a lot, you'll find there often isn't a good place to set the baby down while you're undoing clothing, so pull-on pants are nice because you can get them on and off more easily while holding the baby.<br><br>
EC worked beautifully for me and Lindy, and I'm a huge fan of it now. I'm happy to see so many people are planning to try it!
 
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