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<b><i>In light of the apology issued and the information that has been released about the philanthropic work and donations made by Iparty the nurse-in has been changed to a nurse-out, SPONSORED BY IPARTY!!!!</i></b> After receiving a return call from the Co-founder and President/CEO I have been informed that their company will be providing our mothers with chairs, balloons, snacks and toys or games to occupy the kids.<br><br>
A joint press release is being issed to that effect. We will be using this as an opportunity to shed a positive light on our efforts. I am SO pleased that this can be something that we can all look forward to now. We are going to meet at the store at 35 Pleasant St, South Weymouth, MA 02190 at 10AM on Saturday 4/28. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me for more info. If you could let me know you're coming that would be great so we can have a rough idea of how many moms we're going to have. This is the store's phone number in case you need directions (781) 682-9600.<br><br>
I hope to hear from a lot of you!!<br><br>
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I'll post this as an event with the Middlesex County Mommy Milk Meetup Group so that the mamas north of Boston know it is happening. It's a bit of a haul for some of them but I'm betting we can get a good showing. We usually don't list events outside of Middlesex County but nurse-ins definitely need to be an exception to that rule.<br><br><a href="http://mommymilk.meetup.com/318/" target="_blank">http://mommymilk.meetup.com/318/</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'll post this as an event with the Middlesex County Mommy Milk Meetup Group so that the mamas north of Boston know it is happening. It's a bit of a haul for some of them but I'm betting we can get a good showing. We usually don't list events outside of Middlesex County but nurse-ins definitely need to be an exception to that rule.<br><br><a href="http://mommymilk.meetup.com/318/" target="_blank">http://mommymilk.meetup.com/318/</a></div>
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That's great!! I understand the distance thing...I'll be driving in from Providence. I know the mommies out thhere will see the importance of this event though.
 

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I can't go but I wish I could. I'd bring my giant double nursing pillow and tandem nurse my 6 month old twins!!! It really is a sight to behold. One of them apparently never got the memo on discretion as she strokes and hugs and pinches my breast.<br><br>
You go mamas. I'd give anything to see that manager's face.<br><br>
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I would support the Nurse In if the mother involved is supportive of it.<br><br>
The company has taken some important steps towards resolving the issue... and of course I think pressure to actually do so is appropriate, but I'm just not sure if I can get behind a Nurse In quite yet.<br><br>
Not sure if I missed something....<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I would support the Nurse In if the mother involved is supportive of it.<br><br>
The company has taken some important steps towards resolving the issue... and of course I think pressure to actually do so is appropriate, but I'm just not sure if I can get behind a Nurse In quite yet.<br><br>
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The owners of iParty are horrified by what their manager did, and are working with a friend who is a member of the Massachusetts Breastfeeding Committee to right the wrongs done here. They are generous people who are have given money and time to the Boston Medical Center (which is Baby Friendly!) and other incredibly worthy causes. Bottom line, their employee screwed up, and they didn't handle it as well as they could have in the initial response from corporate, but they are actively trying to do better.<br><br>
IMHO, a nurse-in will burn a bridge that is currently being built. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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Ditto the previous two posters since they voiced what I was coming to ask.<br><br>
Nurse-ins are an amazingly powerful and effective tool, but they ARE that poweful because they are not used every single time someone gets offended or upset. If/when they become the "standard" reaction, they will lose their power.<br><br>
The news gets bored with things very quickly, as does the general populace. In my mind, that means that nurse-ins should be reserved for the times when we NEED major impact to get a company or business moving.<br><br>
This company is already moving in a positive direction and is working with the mom and local breastfeeding advocates.<br><br>
In my mind, having a nurse-in at this point is akin to walking up the to the person that is apologizing to you and asking how they could have better responded and punching them in the face.<br><br>
We, as lactivists are building up an enormous amount of power and respect. We've come a long way. We've gained a lot of credibility.<br><br>
The fastest way to lose that ground is to continue to have knee-jerk reactions rather than thought-out, rational, yet passionate responses.<br><br>
Now if negotiations fall through and the mother is getting no where and she calls for our help, I'll be there to help lead the charge...<br><br>
...but if this is just a group of outraged moms thinking that things aren't happening fast enough and that iParty needs to be "punished" then I've got to say, I'm a little sad for our cause.<br><br>
If the mom is leading the charge on this and I simply haven't heard the news yet, then disregard my above comments, but if the situtation is as I suspect, I respectfully ask that you reconsider your stance.<br><br>
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I understand what you're saying, but at this point i think it has affected me so much because i live in Mass. In Massachusetts there are NO laws protecting breastfeeding women, and this is not some mis-educated employee - this is a reflection of 50% of the state. Take a look at the NIP polls on the other thread. The company did what they could to shut her up, but i truly feel that this is a just cause to go at let our presence known, and show that there are MANY mommies that support this women.
 

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If you want to make your voice heard, then please put your energy into constructive actions. Pick up your phone and call your legislators. There is a Breastfeeding Lobby day being held on May 9that really needs your support. Go to it. Visit <a href="http://www.massbfc.org/advocacy/" target="_blank">the Massachusetts Breastfeeding Coalition's advocacy page</a> for information on the five bills currently pending.
 

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<a href="http://wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_325081620.html" target="_blank">http://wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_325081620.html</a><br><br>
An article about the low turn out for the nurse-in at logan a few months ago. Even the breastfeeding mothers in mass arent doing anything. If you dont want to go, fine. I'm going. I dont care if i'm sitting on the sidewalk myself.
 

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I have spoken with Bobbi Philipp, a breastfeeding advocate and a member of <a href="http://massbfc.org/" target="_blank">the Massachusetts Breastfeeding Coalition</a>. Dr. Philipp is also a pediatrician at <a href="http://bmc.org/" target="_blank">the Boston Medical Center</a> and was the chief architect on making BMC <a href="http://www.babyfriendlyusa.org/" target="_blank">Baby Friendly</a>.<br><br>
Bobbi would like you all to know this about the owners of iParty, Dorice Dionne and Sal Parisano:<br><br>
"If all businesses were as socially responsible as iParty this would be a better world. This reflects one ignorant employee -- not ownership at all. Sal and Dorice bring in money for The Kids Fund charity here at BMC. Breastfeeding wise this charity funds breast pumps, lactation consultants, peer counselors and education for staff here at BMC . ...plus tons of other great things non breastfeeding related for families. Sal and Dorice dont just write a check, they come to meetings, they head boards, they show up for functions...they really really care about kids."<br><br>
Please reconsider your plans for a nurse-in. The owners of iParty are actively working to bring good out of a bad situation. If you want to make your voice heard - call your legislators, write letters to the editor, <a href="http://www.massbfc.org/advocacy/" target="_blank">attend the Breastfeeding Lobby day on May 9th</a>.
 

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I went to that nurse-in, as a matter of fact. I supported that one because the company was not responding appropriately (and continues to try to have the case dismissed from the Vermont Human Rights Commission). There's a time and a place, and this is not it.<br><br>
BTW, are you going to call your legislators?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have spoken with Bobbi Philipp, a breastfeeding advocate and a member of <a href="http://massbfc.org/" target="_blank">the Massachusetts Breastfeeding Coalition</a>. Dr. Philipp is also a pediatrician at <a href="http://bmc.org/" target="_blank">the Boston Medical Center</a> and was the chief architect on making BMC <a href="http://www.babyfriendlyusa.org/" target="_blank">Baby Friendly</a>.<br><br>
Bobbi would like you all to know this about the owners of iParty, Dorice Dionne and Sal Parisano:<br><br>
"If all businesses were as socially responsible as iParty this would be a better world. This reflects one ignorant employee -- not ownership at all. Sal and Dorice bring in money for The Kids Fund charity here at BMC. Breastfeeding wise this charity funds breast pumps, lactation consultants, peer counselors and education for staff here at BMC . ...plus tons of other great things non breastfeeding related for families. Sal and Dorice dont just write a check, they come to meetings, they head boards, they show up for functions...they really really care about kids."<br><br>
Please reconsider your plans for a nurse-in. The owners of iParty are actively working to bring good out of a bad situation. If you want to make your voice heard - call your legislators, write letters to the editor, <a href="http://www.massbfc.org/advocacy/" target="_blank">attend the Breastfeeding Lobby day on May 9th</a>.</div>
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WOW thats great. If they are such strong supporters of breastfeeding i'm sure they will be more than happy to have us at their store! What better way to show everyone that they support NIP at IPARTY then to welcome with open arms breastfeeding mothers. I assure you that as wonderful as this information is - 99.9999% of the Massachusetts population doesnt know this. All they know is that yet again a breastfeeding mother got kicked out of a store.<br><br>
I'm not attacking iparty - we are simply going to hang out with our breastfeeding babies infrount of the store where another mass resident got kicked out of. If there is an issue AGAIN - then they obviously do not fully support breastfeeding as per your info.<br><br>
Whats your problem with having a nurse in? I'm not going to be throwing eggs at the store or handing out nasty fliers. We're just going to peacefully nurse our babies in public, which should be no problem at all with such a breastfeeding friendly store.
 

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I think the problem with having a nurse-in is fairly obvious in this case. A nurse-in is a form of peaceful protest to counteract a company that is otherwise unresponsive. In this case, the company has been <i>extremely</i> responsive. If you wanted to have a "nursing mama day" in conjunction with iParty (and I don't even know what iParty is, so I'm not sure what it would entail) where a bunch of nursing mamas went and utilized their services, that would be great. You would all be supporting one another, and it would be a way to praise the store for making a better decision. But to have a protest outside a store that has already admitted it was in the wrong seems counteractive to me.<br><br>
Does the mother support this, or is she satisfied with the company's response? Because to use someone else's experience as a platform to get your (general you) own point across does not seem very respectful of this mother's experience.<br><br>
Janice in Canada, another poster here who is a dedicated and respected Lactivist, has some great info on when a nurse-in is appropriate and when it isn't. I'm trying to dig up some of her posts.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I assure you that as wonderful as this information is - 99.9999% of the Massachusetts population doesnt know this. All they know is that yet again a breastfeeding mother got kicked out of a store.</div>
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Also, just thinking about this. So, suppose you have a nurse-in. I'm assuming you would contact the media, if the point is to let the rest of Massachusetts know what's going on. The media shows up and covers the nurse-in. They also interview iParty, who says, "Well, gee, we did A,B,C, and D as soon as this happened. I'm not sure what else they want!" I don't see how this situation would promote lactivism. It seems to me like it would do the opposite--make Lactivists look like unsatisfied overreacting fanatics. If you really want to get the word out, why not, in conjunction with the mama who had this happen to her, contact the media and let them know there was a satisfactory conclusion?<br><br>
I understand that it's frustrating to see breastfeeding under attack yet again. I just think we need to weigh our reactions carefully so that we don't give anyone any more cause to, justly or unjustly, attack breastfeeding and Lactivism.
 

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Ok, I understand the point that has been made by previous posters. I still feel that some action should be taken but I am going to try to change our tactics. I'm going to try to get in touch with the founder and see if she'll join us on Saturday. We'll make it a "here we are nursing to show support for a company that is truly trying to make amends".<br><br>
If anyone can offer any constructive ideas on how to turn this into a positive PLEASE tell me.
 

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The owners of iParty are horrified by what their manager did, and are working with a friend who is a member of the Massachusetts Breastfeeding Committee to right the wrongs done here. They are generous people who are have given money and time to the Boston Medical Center (which is Baby Friendly!) and other incredibly worthy causes. Bottom line, their employee screwed up, and they didn't handle it as well as they could have in the initial response from corporate, but they are actively trying to do better.<br><br>
IMHO, a nurse-in will burn a bridge that is currently being built. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:</div>
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I totally agree with the above! When the company is still working with and trying to make it right, bringing negative publicity is counter productive. Now if they were ignoring or being belligerant I would be there in a heartbeat to support a nurse-in.
 

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I can't go this Saturday. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I posted this on the MA MDC board. But I will say it again...<br><br>
Is there anyway to turn the nurse-in into a posative thing for us and Iparty. I was thinking that maybe they would be willing to take the step of putting the beastfeeding symbol in their door/window to show that they are a breastfeeding friendly company. Maybe we could show up to support that decision? We could even hold Iparty balloons.<br><br>
I was also thinking that maybe we could have post cards made to send the leadership at the state house about the breastfeeding laws coming up. People could sign them and send them in or something. Maybe Iparty would be willing to keep a stack of these on their counter?
 
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