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Cage free . . . does not mean what I thought it meant.<br><br>
Free range . . . isn't.<br><br>
And now the farm fresh eggs from "blah blah Pastures" small local farm where we buy raw milk, I just thought to double check and ask how the chickens are raised. IN A BARN. I've been paying $4/dozen for CRAP EGGS.<br><br>
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Annoying isn't it? Have you tried Craig's List? I've had really good luck finding quite a few people who are keeping chickens in their backyards and collecting eggs daily. I figure these have to be better than anything in the store (except maybe the top of the line organic, omega-3 eggs). The yolks are nice a dark and the chickens seem happy. Even in the last week, the number of people advertising eggs has doubled so there seems to be plenty out there. Also, most people are charging $2.50-$3 a dozen so the price isn't bad.
 

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Can you share your information on the egg labeling? A link...I need to learn more....or maybe I don't want to know..lol<br><br>
Thanks!
 

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This is my understanding:<br><br>
"Organic" doesn't mean anything in terms of how chickens are kept or where they live. They are fed organic grain. That's it. Not great from a nutrition of the egg standpoint AIUI.<br><br>
"Cage free" means they are kept inside all the time, just not in tiny individual cages. I think this usually means largish roosts. No outside time, no benefit from a TF food value standpoint. Nicer for the chickens than spending their lives in a box, but it doesn't help the egg.<br><br>
"Free range" means the chickens can move around freely, but not necessarily outside. It usually means that they are kept in a big barn, with room enough to walk around, and have "access" (tiny doorway) to fresh air (small porch). I've read that farmers often do things when raising the chicks that make them afraid to use the doorway to the outside. So they're still fed 100% grain/soy, they get no sunshine, no grass, and the eggs have none of the TF nutritional benefits.<br><br>
"Pastured" (not sure if this is an official term) means that chickens spend at least some of the daylight hours outside, hopefully on grass, eating grass and bugs and supplemented with chicken feed (organic or not). That's what makes the yolks yellow, improves the omega 3 content, puts the CLA fatty acids into the yolks, and causes the hard strong shells.<br><br>
What's worse, non pastured egg farmers often add coloring to the chicken feed to darken the yolks, to make it look like their eggs are pastured. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">
 

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Here's a good article that talks about cage-free versus pastured.<br><br><a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/2007-10-01/Tests-Reveal-Healthier-Eggs.aspx?page=3" target="_blank">http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-...gs.aspx?page=3</a>
 

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So to get the best nutritional eggs I need to find pasturized local eggs??<br><br>
Thanks so much for sharing info gals!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So to get the best nutritional eggs I need to find pasturized local eggs??<br><br>
Thanks so much for sharing info gals!!</div>
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well, pastured....i don't think you would find any pasturized eggs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent">
 

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If anyone lives on Vancouver Island, BC, here is where you can get amazing eggs -- the chickens are outside 90% of the time (they go inside at night).<br><br><a href="http://www.cedarvalleypoultry.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cedarvalleypoultry.com/index.html</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">This is my understanding:<br><br>
"Organic" doesn't mean anything in terms of how chickens are kept or where they live. They are fed organic grain. That's it. Not great from a nutrition of the egg standpoint AIUI.<br><br>
"Cage free" means they are kept inside all the time, just not in tiny individual cages. I think this usually means largish roosts. No outside time, no benefit from a TF food value standpoint. Nicer for the chickens than spending their lives in a box, but it doesn't help the egg.<br><br>
"Free range" means the chickens can move around freely, but not necessarily outside. It usually means that they are kept in a big barn, with room enough to walk around, and have "access" (tiny doorway) to fresh air (small porch). I've read that farmers often do things when raising the chicks that make them afraid to use the doorway to the outside. So they're still fed 100% grain/soy, they get no sunshine, no grass, and the eggs have none of the TF nutritional benefits.<br><br>
"Pastured" (not sure if this is an official term) means that chickens spend at least some of the daylight hours outside, hopefully on grass, eating grass and bugs and supplemented with chicken feed (organic or not). That's what makes the yolks yellow, improves the omega 3 content, puts the CLA fatty acids into the yolks, and causes the hard strong shells.<br><br>
What's worse, non pastured egg farmers often add coloring to the chicken feed to darken the yolks, to make it look like their eggs are pastured. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"></div>
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[Whine/Vent]<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br><span style="color:#000000;">So I guess, unless you raise your own, you have no way of knowing if your eggs are pastured or not. I get mine from the farmers market. They <i>say</i> they are pastured. ($4-6 dz depending on vendor) Thank goodness they are available. I take their word on it because I don’t have time/energy/gas to be driving up to Sonoma (or whatever they are from) to check their authenticity. As far as I know, there are no local egg farmers around in the immediate area.</span>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">well, pastured....i <b>don't think you would find any pasturized eggs.</b> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"></div>
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Actually, the eggs in the carton are. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If anyone lives on Vancouver Island, BC, here is where you can get amazing eggs -- the chickens are outside 90% of the time (they go inside at night).<br><br><a href="http://www.cedarvalleypoultry.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cedarvalleypoultry.com/index.html</a></div>
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Awesome! Thank you.<br><br>
We are moving to Nanaimo in a few days so this is great information.
 

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I'm SLIGHTLY biased as they're my in-laws.<br><br>
But my MIL seriously adores her chickens. I just have to give her a shout out. Her eggs are so tasty!<br><br>
As for "how do you know" about the chickens being raised a certain way -- ask around at the farmer's market. Farmers love to gossip (at least, the ones around here). If there's anything funny going on, the other farmers will let you know. Bring it up casually to another (non-competitive; i.e., a nearby garlic farm or something) vendor.
 

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I raise my own chickens, and have to agree, the labeling is bad.<br><br>
My chickens truly are free range, and cage free. Sure, I close the door to the chicken run and coop at night, so predators can't get in and eat them, but in the morning, I open the door, and out they go, foraging, running, happy.<br><br>
Definitely ask around at the farmers markets. The eggs that my friends bring to the market here are raised the same way I raise mine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">.
 

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Definitely ask around at the farmers markets. The eggs that my friends bring to the market here are raised the same way I raise mine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm SLIGHTLY biased as they're my in-laws.<br><br><br><br>
As for "how do you know" about the chickens being raised a certain way -- ask around at the farmer's market. Farmers love to gossip (at least, the ones around here). If there's anything funny going on, the other farmers will let you know. Bring it up casually to another (non-competitive; i.e., a nearby garlic farm or something) vendor.</div>
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Good idea, thanks!<br><br>
I think they are pastured when I think about it now. The yoke is very yellow, the whites are pretty firm as well...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">well, pastured....i don't think you would find any pasturized eggs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"></div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"> Pregnant brain strikes again!! No wonder the lady at the health food store looked at me wierd!
 

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If you are in S. VA, my friends have some great eggs!<br><br>
At least in my area, these are the best we can do. They ARE "cooped" at night to keep them safe. And they ARE fed grain.<br><br>
BUT, every day at lunch-time they are let out to run around the farm as they please until nightfall.<br><br>
Depending on teh size of the eggs, they are $3-4 per dozen.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"> Pregnant brain strikes again!! No wonder the lady at the health food store looked at me wierd!</div>
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Dont worry, I do the same thing too!
 

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Actually, you can get <i>pasteurized</i> eggs in some conventional grocery stores, meaning they've been heated, in the shell, to a temp that would kill salmonella. The yolks are still liquid, the whites are liquid but somewhat cloudy. Not all grocery-store eggs are pasteurized, only some, and they probably cost more. They are regular, factory-farmed eggs, just heat-treated "for your safety". You don't want them if you're after nutrient-dense eggs with a healthy fatty acid balance.<br><br>
Yeah, finding <i>pastured</i> eggs is tough. I keep my own chickens, but short of that you pretty much have to be able to lay your eyes on the birds in their home to be sure how they're kept.
 
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