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Ever notice when talking to meat eaters that they specify if they had meat or chicken with a meal. Chicken=meat...I know I am not fully up to date on things but last I checked chicken was indeed meat. It's as if by saying they had chicken it's less offensive (to you or to their idea that you would be offended).

Ahh semantics.
 

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That reminds me of when I was in school and whenever we had a social event there was one woman who would bring cookies and she would make a point of telling me "You can eat these, they have egg whites." I told her a million times I didn't eat eggs, it was almost like she was baiting me somehow.
 

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I knew a kid in school who was allergic to peanuts. Due to the icnrease in those type allergies any treats had to be user friendly. All schools do it now. Anyhow, there would be mom's who would bring in candy that was peanut free but right there on the package in bold letters said: "Manufactured in a plant/machinery that also handles nuts". They would get all onery when the teacher said sorry (smart lady...always had extra treats on hand that were user friendly) because after all...the treat didn't have peanuts.

It's funny how people react to diet. It's as if by you not eating something you are attacking them and their diet. My sister's MIL is bad about it...she takes such offense to it when they all get together to eat. They are just a bunch of no meat weirdos after all.
 

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Somehow chicken seems to be considered less offensive or ethically problematic than eating red meat... I have no idea why. Maybe because cows are cuter and fuzzier than chickens? Maybe because chicken is more universally liked than red meat? Not sure why.
 

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Somehow chicken seems to be considered less offensive or ethically problematic than eating red meat... I have no idea why. Maybe because cows are cuter and fuzzier than chickens? Maybe because chicken is more universally liked than red meat? Not sure why.

I have no idea why either! Chicken, to me, is far more offensive. It seems like more of a "bad" meat than red.
 

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I think it's because there are some people out there that call themselves vegetarian even though they eat poultry. Doesn't make any sense to me but yeah.
 

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My sister got the veg*n dvd's from her naturopath. It's mostly vegan and in one of the dvd's a dr. is telling how he gets people who come in saying they are veg*n and then in the same breath say they had chicken. He flat out tells them, you eat chicken..you are NOT veg*n!
 

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I have been taught that red meat is much more dangerous to your body than white meat. I think that's pretty standard. You know all the commercials about the "other white meat". Chicken is white meat. Therefore better for you than red meat. For years I only ate chicken and turkey because they were better for you. Now I don't eat either. But I thought I was doing a good thing by only eating white meat.

My husband and I have been fighting this week because he wants to use a recipe that calls for worchestershire sauce. I told him it was fine as long as he could find one that didn't have anchovies in it. He told me I need to just suck it up and eat the stuff because the small amount of worchestershire sauce that would be in the recipe would have an even tinier amount of anchovies. But it'sthe principle. I donot want toeat ANY meat. But he just thinks I'm being "veggie than thou."

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i always love - "you are vegetarian...so do you eat fish?"
I get this a lot--once my boss wanted to take us to a restaurant that had no veggie options. When I pointed this out, she said, "well, they have fish" to which I replied, "I don't eat fish, I'm a vegetarian." She looked so shocked, then asked, "what DO you eat, then?" I felt like I was repeating myself when I said, "I'm a vegetarian, I eat VEGETABLES!"

 

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I remember one time my husband and I went to a restaurant that offered a brunch buffet. We asked the hostess if there were any vegetarian options on the buffet and she said "Well, there's chicken..." We turned around and left and years later still laugh at line.
 

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I can't say I've ever noticed people saying that they ate meat or chicken. Mostly I hear people saying they've had steak and chips, or lamb chops and mashed potato. Or a ham sandwich. But I agree that chicken seems to considered less meat like. I stopped eating red meat years ago, but continued eating chicken for a long time. Why? I'm not really sure.

We recently ate at a Chinese buffet. My 6 year old dd picked something she thought was chicken, but she wasn't sure about it. I said I thought it might be duck. Her face totally screwed up, kind of like :puke I asked her "Whats the problem? Why would you eat a chicken but not a duck? They're the same sort of animal."

It does seem funny that people want to know where and how their fruit and veg are grown, and are demanding local products, but no one really wants to know where their meat comes from or how it actually gets from live animal to package on supermarket shelf. I know lots of people who don't want to know anything about meat. The thought of feet or beaks puts them off completely. They just don't want to hear about it.

I just watched something on BBC tv last night. Its a new series called Kill it, Cook it, Eat it. Basically it shows you how the animals are killed and butchered. Last night it showed cows. I wasn't sure if I should watch it or not, but i did. It was pretty horrible. Tonight is lambs. I don't think I will be able to watch it.
 

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It does seem funny that people want to know where and how their fruit and veg are grown, and are demanding local products, but no one really wants to know where their meat comes from or how it actually gets from live animal to package on supermarket shelf. I know lots of people who don't want to know anything about meat. The thought of feet or beaks puts them off completely. They just don't want to hear about it.

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I notice that more and more. They just don't care. They assume that the meat has to be taken well care in order to sell it. My sister has some friends who had to get rid of a cow due to some serious illness on the cow's half. They didn't even hesitate to split it between family! That is so disgusting to me. Why, if you eat meat, are you not tracking down reputable sources just like you would your veggies? Blegh.
 

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That's a good point about the veggies. I was watching something yesterday about food safety - I think it was on the Today Show - and they were showing all the steps that go between cow and the meat ending up on your plate and the many possible contamination points - craziness.
 

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It's really gross! My sister read me a paragraph from a book written by a lady who had to go veg*n and natural based in her home because she was reacting so harshly to everything. This paragraph was talking about what happens to the meat not deemed good quality and what they do it to make it acceptable and where it goes. I wonder why people don't question an animal that tromps through crap (literally) and is unhealthy but they question the legitness of organic produce.
 
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