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Hi,

Has anyone familiar with the Raw Milk diet heard of anyone using it for Hashimotos (autoimmune)?
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I believe the raw milk diet works with any autoimmune diseases. My mom did it for 6 weeks and it made a world of difference in her Chronic Fatigue. Also, it helped her rheumatoid arthritis, high blood pressure, hypothyroid and borderline diabetes. I think it fixes just about anything!
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I often think about doing this....but I should probably wait until I'm finished bfing.
I'm about to wrap up the bfeeding, I'm done (she's 3.5).....
so I would like to try this but I feel like I need a doctor or some sort of care-provider familiar with this who can help me with it.

Pinky Tuscadero, that's great that it helped your mom! Did she do it with a care-provider or on her own? I have that book that explains how to do it (after taking the raw milk survery)but I still would like a little reassurance. Also, it requires bedrest, which I think is impossible for me. But maybe I could do it for a shorter time in the summer and I can really take it easy.

Anyway, if anyone knows of a care-provider who would support this I would love a referral. Maybe I should call Ron Schmid and ask him.......or Dr. Cowan....
It's a lot of money to talk to Dr. Ron. I've never tried talking to Dr. Cowan, but I imagine he'd charge a lot too...
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It's a lot of money to talk to Dr. Ron. I've never tried talking to Dr. Cowan, but I imagine he'd charge a lot too...
yes, I know....
I'm going to try to get my local anthroposophical doctor to look into it....for now...
if not, my ins would cover 80% or so....
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I tried it out for a bit... and found I was lactose intollerant even of the raw stuff. go figure! so I instead went off of all gluten and figured out I had celiac disease! (my thyroid issues improved a TON after that!)
HennyPenny,
do you have hashimoto's?
I do. Have you heard of low-dose naltrexone?
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Pinky Tuscadero, that's great that it helped your mom! Did she do it with a care-provider or on her own? I have that book that explains how to do it (after taking the raw milk survery)but I still would like a little reassurance. Also, it requires bedrest, which I think is impossible for me. But maybe I could do it for a shorter time in the summer and I can really take it easy.
My mom did it under the care of Dr Pinky (that's me). I don't see any reason to. What part are you looking for reassurances on?
My mom did not do the bedrest (or the enemas). It still made an amazing difference in her health.
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I did it for a month and didn't do complete bedrest but I did find that I had days where I was extremely tired. I went to town one day (90 minutes away) and was so sleepy driving back I could have fallen asleep at the wheel. If I do it again, I probably wouldn't do bedrest because that never seems to fit in my life, but I would take it easy and stay close to home.

I didn't really have a condition, just wanted to try it. I put that book online, by the way. I found it dusty in a library.
I get sleepy driving sometimes even if I'm not on a raw milk diet


I guess I wanted reassurance because Dr. Schmid says in his book that he doesn't use it in his practice now. I was wondering why. Also, it is quite an extreme step to have only one thing in your diet. No matter how good that thing is. Don't get me wrong, I'm very attracted to the concept and I think I would actually enjoy it since I love the milk so much. But I would want to make sure I wasn't compromising my health by doing it (ie: not getting certain nutrients). Although I know that the very concept of a detox diet is based on restricting intake.

I am also interested in the gluten-free diet. I think at this point we're pretty low-gluten, not by design, but it seems to have come about naturally as we eat a high-fat, high-protein diet. But I do like my bread every few days. I'm wondering if gluten-free has helped with autoimmune induced thyroid issues.....
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another thought I've been having is this:
In the modern day we eat all sorts of things and we are always encouraged to get a wide variety of foods to stay healthy. The thing I have noticed is that it seems that indigenous cultures seem to rely on a relatively small assortment of foods. Some cultures live on just a few things. So perhaps it is actually detrimental to our health to get such diversity in our diet?
Just a thought.....
I am intrigued. I have hashimotos. I also have RA and maybe fibro and blood sugar issues.

I also have wheat issues and have had much improvement since going off wheat. But I fell off the wagon a little bit.
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I am intrigued. I have hashimotos. I also have RA and maybe fibro and blood sugar issues.

I also have wheat issues and have had much improvement since going off wheat. But I fell off the wagon a little bit.
Have you heard of Low Dose Naltrexone?
I think I'm going to do the raw milk diet first and then if I don't see a change in my antibodies I'm going to try the LDN.

I think I'm going to do gluten-free until I start the raw milk diet. I've decided to start in May and do it for 4 weeks. I'm preparing now, mentally and physically.
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Jimibell, My emails to you keep bouncing. Here is my reply to your email:

My mom loved the milk diet. She does a little mini one now whenever she falls off the wagon, so to speak, and eats poorly too often. She says she can really feel it when she eats out too much or has a lot of grains.
She did cheat a little when she did the milk diet, as she has several meetings each month that she attends where they have dinner. She probably ate out 3 or 4 times during the 6 weeks she did it. She just drank plain old raw cow milk, not fermented in any way. The only downside to it was that she gained a bout 4 pounds. She was worried she would be hungry so she drank a lot of milk!! She said if she were to do it again she would cut back, as she never really felt hungry. Is the 11 gallons for you alone? That sounds like a lot more than she drank! I don't think she drank a whole gallon each day, even.
It was an amazing transformation for her. She feels so much better now. She eats a relatively traditional foods diet. No grains (usually), lots of raw dairy, grassfed meats, organic fruits and veggies, CLO, etc. She's not much for fermented things, except sauerkraut, so there's not a lot of that.
HTH! Good luck!

~Suzy
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thank you, yes it helps Pinky

According to what I read in "The Miracle of Milk" (1 quart for each 25-30 lbs) I should be taking about 5 quarts a day (I weigh 125). So that's almost 9 gallons a week and then my family will consume another 2 I'm thinking.
I have to find a place to keep all of this milk before I commit to this, my dh insists. At this point I'm relying on that book as my guide.
I wonder if it will be hard to prepare food for everyone else while I'm only drinking milk.
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another thought I've been having is this:
In the modern day we eat all sorts of things and we are always encouraged to get a wide variety of foods to stay healthy. The thing I have noticed is that it seems that indigenous cultures seem to rely on a relatively small assortment of foods. Some cultures live on just a few things. So perhaps it is actually detrimental to our health to get such diversity in our diet?
Just a thought.....

Intersting to mention this. Just the other day my FIL listed the five things his father ate and he lived for a very long despite smoking and drinking.
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HennyPenny,
do you have hashimoto's?
I do. Have you heard of low-dose naltrexone?
nope, I have celiac, but it was causing everything else to become symptomatic. I had it for a long time before I realized it so everything was freaking out.

I still watch out for my thyroid as the disease runs in my family. my grandmother and father both had hashimoto's and my father got cancer and had his taken out. I know I'm "high risk". but I'm also the only one in the family that takes care of my body and is careful with diet.

I'm not sure what "low-dose naltrexone" is honestly... sorry.
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I'm wondering if gluten-free has helped with autoimmune induced thyroid issues.....
I almost choked on my coffee.... YES, from what I've read (which is all over the internet, and I hope I can find some links for you... but... we'll see) in the year and a half since my gluten-free journey began, there is a STRONG correlation/co-existence/not sure of the correct word between gluten problems and auto-immune thyroid problems. Partly because gluten seems to have a way of suppressing thyroid function even in some non-celiac people, partly because gluten is possibly the #1 biggest trigger of auto-immune disease in general, so you combine the two... bammo... auto-immune thyroid problems. I am sure there are exceptions, but I would feel very confident making the blanket statement that anyone with Hashimoto's has gluten-sensitivity. The thyroid problems seem to be more common with people with actual celiac disease, with those specific genes. (There are other genes that are associated with gluten-sensitivity, but for whatever reason, not celiac disease itself.)

I have a couple of internet friends who have been struggling with thyroid issues this past year. One recently got diagnosed with Hashimoto's, has a horribly unhelpful doctor, and money is really tight. Her treatment isn't working yet, whatever it is, and she absolutely refuses to listen to a word about gluten. The other half-heartedly gave up most gluten for a couple of weeks... but it was "too hard" and yet she also really thinks she gave gluten-free a fair trial and it didn't make any difference.
It's very frustrating. So that's one of the reasons I'm so passionate about this topic.
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thank you, yes it helps Pinky

According to what I read in "The Miracle of Milk" (1 quart for each 25-30 lbs) I should be taking about 5 quarts a day (I weigh 125). So that's almost 9 gallons a week and then my family will consume another 2 I'm thinking.
I have to find a place to keep all of this milk before I commit to this, my dh insists. At this point I'm relying on that book as my guide.
I wonder if it will be hard to prepare food for everyone else while I'm only drinking milk.
Mom says she would have drowned trying to drink that much milk! As it was, she always felt full. plus, she weighs a lot more than you and she still could never have consumed that much. She's a big milk drinker, too!
You could try it the first week but I doubt you will truly need that much.
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