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I am posting here to ask for a sub-forum for expat mamas.<br><br>
This is DIFFERENT from the existing non-US sub-forums because those are comprised of both expatriates and people who are from those countries. It would also include foreign mommies living in the US.<br><br>
It is also different because many of us expatriates travel frequently. We are not necessarily settled in one geographical area.<br><br>
There are issues specific to travel and the expat life that transcend borders, but at the same time which are best addressed with other expatriate moms, not with the general public (like, whether Nutella can be sent by diplomatic pouch or not).<br><br>
There are also some countries in areas which are not covered by tribes here (the entire former USSR, the entire Middle East, which is NOT the far east, and it amuses me that our Israel ladies are posting in "far" east <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">, the sub continent). We want a home.<br><br>
It would be a great place for us to talk about vaccination, the embassy fourth of July / Canada Day / Bastille Day / etc. picnic, putting kids in foreign schools, homeschooling abroad, etc.<br><br>
I imagine that we'd have some military families, missionaries, aid workers, and women who married overseas.<br><br>
Puh-leeeeze can we try this out? I know our threads get lost but you can see us posting all over the place whenever people ask about "Traveling to South America without vax HELP!" and "Carseat for traveling in Europe?" and "Homeschooling in Poland?" etc.<br><br>
I volunteer as granola ambassador. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">: I love this idea. There are a lot of time when I need travel specific advice, advice from moms who know what it's like to miss your mommy, or watch your kids growing up without any knowledge of thier FAMILIES...it would be really cool to discuss those sort of issues. Most of my ex-pat friends IRL are single and they just don't get it.
 

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That is actually a pretty good idea izobelle!!!<br><br>
Up until now I always used to google for variouse groups, depending on where we moved to, which is also VERY IMPORTANT (as most of us will know that by now), as you can get the local info most of the time only from the local mums, but this would also be pretty helpful. For example has somebody lived in a specific country previously and where are the nice areas and places to avoid etc. The vax info is another good concern as a lot of the vax ingredients vary from continent to continent and therefore the vax schedule is totally different as well.<br>
I am all for it, spread the word ladies...and gents! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Yes please! It would be great to have a place to talk about expat specifics -- I noticed that there are a lot of us on here. Probbably because we desperately need support! I live in a small city with exactly 2 other families with kids. And they're not exactly on the same page when it comes to parenting...
 

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"Most of my ex-pat friends IRL are single and they just don't get it."<br><br>
Yep. Plus, they keep moving to different countries.<br><br>
"I noticed that there are a lot of us on here. Probably because we desperately need support!"<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I totally agree. I can't discuss everything with my in-laws or the local doctors here... and sometimes I think, I must not have understood that, did they really say...???
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">and sometimes I think, I must not have understood that, did they really say...???</div>
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Oh my god...how many times did I think THAT while I was pregnant! Holy crap.<br><br>
Sometimes it's not a language barrier; it's a cultural "common sense" barrier.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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oh wait...delete, delete, delete....I totally read that wrong. Please ignore. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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"Sometimes it's not a language barrier; it's a cultural "common sense" barrier."<br><br>
I don't know about Argentina, but here, no matter what goes wrong, it's because mom drank cold water from the tap. Obviously.
 

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Yeah, where are all our expat moms? I know we're here, we have long discussions sometimes... gah.
 

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I just joined MDC for exactly that reason!!! Feeling a little lonely. Language barrier. Few other English-speaking moms and not so much on same page...<br><br>
This is my very first post! I'm excited to be here! Hope this thread stays active!<br><br>
I'll go ahead and submit a question (or two):<br><br>
- Anyone ever travelled internationally with cloth diapers? Just not worth trying?<br>
- Anyone figured out how to carry an infant car seat and carryon(s) in some vaguely reasonable way through airport connections with *stairs* when you're travelling alone with baby?? (trip back out here worked only due to kindness of complete strangers in helping me schlep my stuff - I felt like an idiot)<br><br>
(My first child was born at home (well, in a temporary apartment stateside, but it was a homebirth in my book even though I do wish it had really been at HOME...) this March. Will now go try to figure out how to make my signature line say that, or some of it, anyway. Haven't ever joined a discussion board before!)
 

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Hi Shannughs! Welcome to MDC. I am so flattered that your first post (on a discussion board, no less) is on this thread. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
My DD uses cloth diapers here where we live now, but we always used disposables on the road. I'm sorry for the landfills but I just cannot drag an ever-increasing pile of soggy diapers through airports, taxis, etc. But we also EC (elimination communication, there is a separate sub-forum under diapering) so we didn't use a ton of them.<br><br>
As for the car-seat, we use the Sit-n-Stroll carseat stroller. It was expensive but I'm so glad I got it. It's a carseat that turns into a stroller. It has it's drawbacks- not super secure in some cars, you have to kind of jerry-rig it to be 100% secure- but the whole airport thing made it all worth it. We used it as a stroller but usually just put our stuff in it, baby in the podaegi carrier on me, and it was just one less thing to carry. Carseat with wheels.<br><br>
Though... which airports have stairs and no elevators that you are going to? I must say I have not yet encountered that. Ack.<br><br>
Pleased to have you here!
 

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Yeah, Ack. Had to deal with stairs down to the bus to the plane in CDG (so much for pre-boarding - just meant me and ds sat on the hot bus longer than anyone else), then stairs up to the plane (no "jetway"). Then same thing deplaning here. Used to think jetways were the only way to get on and off a plane... Sigh.<br><br>
I'm not sure what they do with wheelchairs, but they certainly didn't offer any kind of elevator to me! Very nice gate attendant at CDG helped me carry stuff, though. Maybe there are secret elevators hiding out somewhere... or I could hitch a ride on the Sky Gourmet wagon : )
 

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kia ora koutou<br>
greetings everybody from New Zealand!<br><br>
all you ex-pat mommas - are your partners of the same background as you, or are you a cross-cultural household???<br><br>
My husband is Southern (ie TN) and I'm an NZer, so although I'm technically not an expat (because we're in my homeland to parent - kick ass maternity care here, great place to birth those babies!) I kind of feel like one, in that the cultural specifics of my family don't entirely match those of the people around me.<br><br>
We are suffering from the international perception of the USA right now. My daughter was ridiculed for her stars and stripes socks by strangers. VERY upsetting.<br><br>
This is my first time posting so I'll sign off before I outstay my welcome as a quasi-ex-pat-confused-mumma!<br><br>
arohanui (that's big love!)<br>
miriam x
 

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I found this through new posts but as a former expat momma I think an expat subforum is a great idea!<br><br>
It isn't likely I would have much to contribute as we have come back and not moved around for a couple of years (feels so odd and a bit boring, dh reminds me that stability is one of the reasons we came back and settled down)<br><br>
Sending out my support to you ladies!
 

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I support an ex-pat forum!<br><br>
I first joined MDC because non of the Czech parenting boards were "crunchy" enough, and I don't have many friends in real-life who breastfeed beyond infancy, cloth dipe, aspire to be the gentlest parents they can..... and I really wanted to connect with other mamas who CLW, aspire to be green and eat healthy foods.<br><br>
Plus not many here speak more than one language at home, travel around the world with little kids in tow, care that much about what car seat to buy and if they should use it on the plane, plan to homeschool because of the language/heritage factor. Not many have close family members on the other side of the globe. You just never know what it's like to be an expat/emigrant until you are one.<br><br>
Plus the vax issue! I think this is a super important issue for the expat forum because there are alot of countries (especially former eastern bloc) that have madatory vaccination laws, and only such experienced expats as ourselves can adivse other mamas and papas on how to vax according to their philosophy and not the state's.<br><br>
My first post on MDC actually was on the who's in Prague thread. It was so cool to see that there are tribes outside of the U.S. and Canada, so cool to see that there are some Czech mamas here (who'd have thunk?) and I think having an expat subforum would make it much easier for our threads to stay together in one big section.<br><br>
Great idea Izobelle, and if it ever happens, you have my vote as granola ambassador<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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Threadbey, ah, you can always count on the French to have even fewer facilities than, say, Albania. No offense to either intended- both lovely countries. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
Waikukumama: Interesing, I have never heard a NZ aboriginal language but it sounds a lot like Hawaiian... though I guess they are all polynesian languages... anyway. "My daughter was ridiculed for her stars and stripes socks by strangers. VERY upsetting." Ugh. Once in France (or was it Germany? I forget) I was at a nightclub and some ugly guy comes to chat me up. He asks where I'm from, and I say America. He says, "I hate Americans. They are all ugly." Well that's an intelligent thing to say. Fortunately I was old enough to deal. Your poor little girl.<br><br>
mamajb: Thanks for your support. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
East Carolina: I loved Ceska (is that what they call it?). So friendly, so beautiful, so cultured. We were only there a week but it was great. I was pregnant at the time and having morning sickness so I couldn't eat a lot of the food or drink the beer but I plan to go back as soon as DD can eat something other than breastmilk.
 

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Ohhh wow ladies this thread already sounds almost like home to me!!!<br><br>
waikukumama, I have two great friends from your area, actually only one from NZ the other lady is from AUS, what a great bunch you are from down under!<br><br>
izobelle, it is great to hear detailed and nice remarks like this again from people about another country!<br>
I am not sure if you know what I mean,....but all that friendly international flair is SO beautiful! I really miss it!
 

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Ladies... thanks to all for posting. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Feel free to add a pro-expat tribe forum statement to your siggy. Hint, hint.
 
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