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Hello, we are planning a VBAC at Group Health in Seattle with an independent midwife who has privileges there. I've spoken with her extensively about their practices and feel pretty comfortable but I haven't yet had the chance to take a tour. I'm on DSHS Insurance and as much as I'd love to plan a home birth, as a VBAC mama, it wont be covered and we can't afford the out of pocket costs, so I'm looking for the most gentle alternative. I'd love to hear some feed back from any mama's who have birthed there and would welcome PM's if you feel more comfortable.<br><br>
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My dd2 was born at Group Health in December. She was my second VBAC, but my first at GH (ds was born at Evergreen). I used a private practice midwife also. My labor was very fast (biiiig difference from my first two births!)-- so fast that my midwife, who was coming from another birth, didn't make it and one of the GH midwives caught dd. I was never given any grief from my nurse about being a VBAC, in fact, I don't even recall her ever mentioning it, except maybe once when I was in triage.<br><br>
When I told my nurse that I felt like I needed to push (I'd been at a 6 only 15 minutes previous), she checked me, saw the baby was coming and told me to "push then"! She didn't care that there wasn't a midwife or OB there yet-- she hit the call button and the on call midwife made it in to catch dd within four minutes of my 'need to push'. I'll deliver there again when we're ready for another kiddo.
 

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Wow, I have a big smile in my heart, thanks for sharing this story <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I delivered dd2 there in Feb. She was my second VBAC. The first two kids were born at Swedish. I also had an independent midwife. My experience at GH was fantastic. I actually drove by there earlier and wished I had time to stop by and personally thank the maternity nurses. I felt empwered and encouraged - this Compared to my VBAC experience at Swedish, which I had to fight for and was highly interventive. One of the nurses (she gave me IV antibiotics early in the day- I was GBS+ and my water broke several hours before labor began) was a homebirther. Everyone was encouraging of my plan to go natural. Eight hours later (when I was scheduldd to return b/c of antibiotics), I arrived in heavy labor and the nurses helped me to my room, pushed on my back to ease the pain and kept the mood jovial while we waited for my husband and midwife to arrive. They helped me get on all fours to push and cheered me on while I bellowed like a water buffalo. The baby arrived after 3 1/2 hours labor, one half-hour after arriving at ghc. My midwife ran in just in time to catch the baby. (My last birth took days, so I underestimated how far along in labor I was.). The entire time I felt in good hands. The pediatrician was good, too. To sum up: the attitude at Swedish re VBAC: "Hmm. Are you sure you want to try that?". GHC: "Of course you can.". Sorry if I sound like I'm auditioning for a commercial. I was so burned by my C-sec and VBAC at Swedish, I had my defenses up - pleasantly surprised to find I didn't need them.
 

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I just attended a VBAC there on Wednesday with Sally Avenson, CNM. It was one of the most hands-off hospital births I've ever seen- it was positively inspirational for me on many levels. My client had continuous monitoring but otherwise wasn't fussed with- dad brought in a buffet of food and she ate, drank, bathed, moved around - all at her comfort level. No one told her what to do or asked her to change what she was doing unless baby needed her to. Mom and baby were discharged the next day which was a surprise to me (usually at Harrison they are there a second night). Mom and baby were largely left alone she said. She had a great experience there giving birth and I was really happy to attend at such an incredibly supportive place!
 

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I've been looking into VBAC options and have heard good things about using the midwives at Group Health. It seems there are some protocols that are natural, and they are supportive of VBAC.
 

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I used to be an L&D nurse there. I would trust the midwives/nurses there with my VBAC without a doubt. The staff generally takes a very hands-off approach, and we weren't "forced" to to rush patients through, like I was at another Seattle hospital that I worked at.... If I still lived in the area, this would be my first choice hospital for a VBAC (or any type of birth, for that matter!)
 

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If you haven't already join ICAN the seattle women are amazing. I love Sharon and Marcia. ICAN is a great source of inspiration as well as tips and tricks to getting an awesome birth experience.
 

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I VBAC'ed at Group Health a few years ago, and it was very good experience. I left my OB at UW at 36 weeks because she was trying to talk me out of "trying" a VBAC, saying that my pelvis was probably deformed and didn't I want to just schedule another c-section. I used a PSNHC midwife and she was great and super-supportive from the get-go - they looked over my charts in great detail from the c/s and made their recommendations based on that. My only complaint at GH was that the beds were super uncomfortable, and that they won't let the baby sleep in your bed with you. (we did as much as we could anyway.) Even at UW where I had my c/s they encouraged me to have the baby in bed with me all the time. So I'm not sure what's up with that.<br><br>
I would go back to GH again over any other local hospital for another birth.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I VBAC'ed at Group Health a few years ago, and it was very good experience. I left my OB at UW at 36 weeks because she was trying to talk me out of "trying" a VBAC, saying that my pelvis was probably deformed and didn't I want to just schedule another c-section. I used a PSNHC midwife and she was great and super-supportive from the get-go - they looked over my charts in great detail from the c/s and made their recommendations based on that. My only complaint at GH was that the beds were super uncomfortable, and that they won't let the baby sleep in your bed with you. (we did as much as we could anyway.) Even at UW where I had my c/s they encouraged me to have the baby in bed with me all the time. So I'm not sure what's up with that.<br><br>
I would go back to GH again over any other local hospital for another birth.</div>
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From what I have heard, the midwives at UW are different and it's a good place for VBAC if you're with the midwives. Just wanted ot meniton that in case someone reading this is thinking about UW. That is great what you said though about cosleeping being encouraged. (UW is my option b/c of insurance, or a homebirth)
 

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No one had a problem with me keeping the baby in bed with me at GHC 3 months ago. That must be a former policy. I can't say the bed was comfy, but it was the same as the ones at Swedish.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">No one had a problem with me keeping the baby in bed with me at GHC 3 months ago. That must be a former policy. I can't say the bed was comfy, but it was the same as the ones at Swedish.</div>
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That is good to hear. At the time we were there, it was hinted that a mom had fallen asleep and the baby fell out of the bed. Whether that is actually what happened I do not know, but they reminded us frequently to put the baby in the bassinette if we were planning to sleep.
 

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Hi there<br>
Is the problem with having a home birth covered by DSHS a VBAC issue? If not, home birth is covered if the midwife takes it?<br><br>
Regarding Group Health, I have one baby at home and one at GH via c-section at Group Health. GH erased any fears or judgments I had about hospital delivery.<br><br>
Feel free to ask me anything else about it via PM.
 

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I also second VBAC and birthing at GH. Unfortunately, both my births ended up in emergency c-section but that's just me and i have no regrets about birthing at GH. DS was a homebirth transfer and DD was planned VBAC at GH, both with independent midwives with admitting rights at GH. The staff is great and work well with doulas. We had no problem with baby in the bed. I also love that the vital checks are on your terms and not on some preset schedule where a nurse comes in at all hours of the day and night with little regard to sleeping or nursing. Good luck!
 

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Is Group Health in Redmond? I'm new to the area.<br><br>
Also, anyone know if they take Regence? I haven't been able to nail down an answer from the regence website but I'm still looking.
 

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Thank You all SO much for your responses! It feels so amazing to check back here and find so many helpful and inspiring posts, thanks from my heart to each and every one of you!<br><br>
And to Sharmour- to answer your question, DSHS will not cover a VBAC homebirth, but will cover a hospital VBAC with a midwife, hope that helps <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Is Group Health in Redmond? I'm new to the area.<br><br>
Also, anyone know if they take Regence? I haven't been able to nail down an answer from the regence website but I'm still looking.</div>
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Seattle. Some midwives can bill your insurance for GH as a facility fee. But it depends on your insurance. I would call and ask.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Seattle. Some midwives can bill your insurance for GH as a facility fee. But it depends on your insurance. I would call and ask.</div>
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Thanks. Is it downtown? I drive by one at Northgate but that didn't really look like a hospital. Is one particular location the one that is great for VBACs? I'm at the GH website (<a href="http://www.ghc.org/provider/WomensHealth/maternityServices.jhtml" target="_blank">http://www.ghc.org/provider/WomensHe...Services.jhtml</a>) and see this "Members who live in the Seattle area can deliver their babies at our Family Beginnings Birth Center on the Capitol Hill campus. Members in other areas usually have their babies at local hospitals." But is that a birth center (and as a result no VBAC?). Just want to be sure I get the right location. Thanks!
 

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Yes, capitol hill is the right location. I believe it's just a hospital, but it's the "birth center" part of the hospital. Though there might be a BC and an L&D. Haven't been there myself.
 

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Ok, thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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