[tuck]

I'm hoping some of you experienced Mamas can help me out...<br>
I am working with a little guy in private therapy. He is 4, and diagnosed with PDD-NOS. There seems to me to be something up with his eyes. They often seem dialated or something. He has the look of his eyes being open very wide, but the actual lid isn't wider.I'm sure this is confusing...I find he has tracking problems yet his vision check with his Dr. turned up no concerns.<br>
I find this everytime I see him, but it is only a "come and go" thing meaning his eyes could look ok ( not noticable for anything) and then I say "there he goes again". Its sort of a startled eye look.<br>
It is almost always happening when he is hyper and hard to control/focus, but which comes first- I don't know.<br>
This little boy is extremely physical- constantly climbing/jumping/swinging. He has excellent balance. He can be very sweet and loving or quite aggressive. He has bright blue eyes and white hair. I'm telling you this in case you may know a similiar child. Thanks for ANY thoughts!

 

[faerierose]

I know exactly what you mean! My ds is 2 and his eyes do that as well when he is super excited, and that happens often. His tracking is off, It's so hard to describe, like one eye moves slower then the other and that startled twitchy wide eyed thing...ugh The doc says he doesn't see anything wrong but they just aren't right and I can't really explain why. It makes my head <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:

 

[kittynurse]

I am not a medical professional but I am a veterinary technician and I have seen something similar to what you describe many times in cats. It is when they are in a state of high arousal such as intense fear. They seem to space out and sort of go into another world. It's kind of like watching the most primitive form of "fight or flight". I don't know if this is what is happening with this little guy but it might explain why he is hard to control in this state. With the cats, their body has shifted into a subconscious fight for survival and there's no snapping them out of it. Maybe you could try to keep a list of what seems to trigger it.<br><br>
As an aside, super dilated eyes can also mean a toxin exposure but I'm guessing that since you said it is transient then it is less likely to be that.

 

[tuck]

Thanks! His Mom does bring him to a naturapathic dr who says he shows positive signs of toxins, actually. I'm not sure which ones but I will definitely mention this to her. Any other thoughts, Mamas?