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I was reading an article in todays Cleveland Plain Dealer (Ohio) on students being passed to the next grade despite failing state tests. One reason sited for passing is that holding kids back will be an embarassment for the student, and that will lead to higher drop out rates.So they say it is better to pass them,and help/hope they catch up.<br><br>
So what happens to a homeschooler who fails a state test?<br><br>
Do they get to go on to the *next grade* too, or would they(as the law states in Ohio) be required to attend public school...where they can then fail and still pass??!!?!?!
 

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I don't know what the state laws are in ohio but failing the state test here mean nothing really. You take it whenyour child is supposed to be in 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 11th? but youdon't have to take it after a certain age . . . I have never heard of anything happening when a child does poorly on the test. Perhaps in smaller school districts they may harrass but legally they can't make youdo anything here.<br><br>
Silly that they pass a child who doesn't know anything. And they think being in a class where you have no idea what is going on is going to make you any less embarrassed. I htink they need to have a better plan than pass or fail. Maybe different classes alltogether? I don't know but this is the perfect example of a completely broken system,
 

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Here in Oregon the kids have to test in grades 3, 5, 8, and 10. They are required to reach the 15th percentile thingy. (In my opinion, all a kid has to be able to do is read to accomplish that.) If they do not reach that score they must test again in a year (even though it would not normally be a "testing year") If the second test score shows an improvement from the year prior than they move ahead as planned and test in the next required year. If the second test shows a decline they must test again the next year. If that test shows no improvement the state gets involved with their "options". To be honest I have a hard time picturing a situation where the student would ever get to that point though... Personally, I think the testing laws just blow.<br><br>
Here is a link for info on Oregons deal :<br><a href="http://www.ode.state.or.us/teachlearn/specialty/home/faqguidelines.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ode.state.or.us/teachlear...guidelines.pdf</a>
 

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I had always assumed that if a kid is in public school and failed the tests then they would fail the grade. It seems like the homeschoolers have less chance to mess up,and will be forced into public school if they don't meet the standards. What is the point of standards when they are being flexible with it for one group(ps) and not the other(hs)?<br><br>
Hopefully my kids will do well enough that we won't have to deal with any of this. It was just suprising to read since they make such a big deal about preparing the ps kids for the tests,but they pass even if they don't pass!
 

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Homeschooling parents and children are held to a higher standard than public school teachers and students. If public school teachers were held to the same standards as homeschool parents, the teachers would all be fired.
 

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Sometimes in some states this is true. In Nevada the homeschoolers worked so hard to get the laws changed. I know that other states can do it too.
 

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Here in Oregon many homeschoolers lobby whenever and however possible to get testing requirements dropped for homeschoolers. Someday I pray. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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looks like they are trying to change the laws in SD so that if you don't o above a certain percentage they can force you to put your child in public school. and they want to make testing every year and on the schools test (currently we can choose our own test or take the schools.) Lets hope the new bill doesn't pass.
 

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There was an article in Reader's Digest recently about this. (sort-of) It talked about how some schools are getting rid of the grading system and the honor roll because kids who don't make a certain grade or don't make the roll "feel bad". And, as we all know, it is inexcusable to lower a child's self esteem for any reason whatsoever, even if they don't do the work to earn the grade.<br>
A teacher responded to this article, saying that she/he had taught 9th grade English for three years, but quit. The reason? She/he was told by the principle that she/he "lacked empathy for the students" because of his/her "rigid, unrealistic policy" that the students turn in weekly homework assignments.
 

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I absolutely cannot stand the grading system and honor roll thing. Never could.
 

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My FIL got fired because he expected his students to do colege prep work (high school physics and AP physics) The guy the replaced him with is not a great teacher but his class is much easier so almost everyone gets As. t he school thinks this is preferable.
 
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