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Eight pages, of which about 2.25 are references.

A good bit of it may be above our pay grade, but there are always medical dictionaries!
 
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Quite an interesting article, and so far wouldn't be taken as "anti-vaccine". They are just pointing out that we still don't understand why alum (which is how they refer to aluminum salts used in vaccines) works as an adjuvant and exactly how it behaves in the human body. They discuss the various theories and some of the problems that have turned up in response to various explanations of what is going on.

The part I'm currently reading talks about a large outbreak of MMF which arose in France with an increase in the use of alum containing vaccines, which were mainly injected into the deltoid muscle of adults.
 
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Don't miss these Deborah. They're easier than what you're reading now.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26082187
Fluorescent nanodiamonds as a relevant tag for the assessment of alum adjuvant particle biodisposition.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26384437
Highly delayed systemic translocation of aluminum-based adjuvant in CD1 mice following intramuscular injections.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23921285
Distinctive clinical features in arthro-myalgic patients with and without aluminum hydroxyde-induced macrophagic myofasciitis: an exploratory study

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26030650
Neuropsychological Correlates of Brain Perfusion SPECT in Patients with Macrophagic Myofasciitis.
 

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Thanks Bow! Perhaps we can do more threads, one for each article?

There does seem to be plenty of science showing problems with aluminum at the normal vaccine dosage level, doesn't there?
 
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Deborah, If you decide to take each one to a new thread, I'll do my best to keep up.

Something a little off this particular topic but caught my attention recently, was additional boosters for MenB, IIRC. They showed response with and without adjuvant. Thought that was interesting especially since there was very little difference in the outcome. I was thinking that maybe they were going to start moving away from alum.

I don't know any thing about this person or the site, but I read a couple of things that either I never knew or no longer remember. This remark about alum doing nothing in "boosters," was interesting. I didn't track it down in the transcript.

On the comment/notes page from the "aluminum meeting," it's stated

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/aluminum_connection.htm

Also very obvious from this two day meeting was the fact that it very much appeared aluminum additives did basically nothing in "booster shots" (p. 35, p. 234, p. 252, aluminum transcripts) but, yet, they were added because to remove them and make "special aluminum-free boosters" would prove too inconvenient for the pharmaceutical industry and as such, we preferred to inject more toxins - and known "worthless toxins" or aluminum adjuvants - according to this meeting - than to change our processes/procedures/products. Thus convenience came above safety and "need for this toxin in boosters in the first place" (p. 253-254 of aluminum transcripts)! Note that on p. 251, it was stated that one of the primary reasons for having aluminum in vaccines was because it also acted as a "stabilizer"... because it could be years between the time of manufacture and the time at which the vaccine was actually administered. Thus again, "the convenience factor" was more important than the safety issue!
Puerto Rico in 2000, National Vaccine Program Office Workshop on Aluminum In Vaccines, Caribe Hilton International Hotel, San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 11th - 12th, 2000

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/AL%20-%201.pdf
http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/AL - 2.pdf

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/aluminum_connection.htm
comments the Puerto Rico meeting
 

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Alas, all of that is perfectly believable. Thanks Bow
 
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I think that was the meeting that was referenced in Simpsonwood where remarks were made about the synergy btwn alum/thimerosal and it being "unreal," that aluminum wouldn't be part of the problem? Obviously not a quote, but I could find it pretty easily.

All these years later and we're still discussing thimerosal containing vaccines (flu) and alum adjuvanted vaccines.

I'm sure the interview with Offit and Haley was discussed here but probably worth leaving again. I found it on this guys blog, which I didn't read, but I like the pictures.
http://www.dinnerforthought.com/blog/dr-paul-offits-kryptonite-underestimating-anti-vaxxers

On a brighter note, pretty cool about the nanodiamond tags.
 
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