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Welcome to the Fairy Talk Board. This discussion has been created to work out some of the kinks with regard to the Fairy threads. MDC is ready to host these threads but would like to have a formal way of doing so. Our first idea is to move all Fairying info to the Trading Post subforum and rename Co-ops and Swaps to Co-ops, Swaps and Fairys or RAK (Random Acts of Kindness). This is two fold. First, it seems logical to keep all giving and receiving in one place and the Trading Post is already set up for that. Second, the Fairy threads have really started to take over Diapering and we feel that it has become frustrating to members not involved as well as to new members coming here with questions. Often their posts seem to get knocked off the first page due to an over abundance of Fairy related threads.

Please give us your thoughts on this first point at hand. We have other issues to discuss but would like to go at them one at a time to keep this as clear as possible. Thanks again for your input.
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I agree that there are WAY too many fairy threads on the Diapering board. I think in the end, it is up to the powers that be, where the threads go. I am on the fence with it, to be honest. In some ways, I think it should stay in diapering, and treat it like the daily Fluffy Mail thread and have it as the Fairied Thread- Mon, Tues, etc. If someone posts their thread in the main diaper area, then it can be moved to the Fairy thread. That way for those who don't use the TP can see as well. How does everyone feel about that?? I'm not set in stone in my opinion but this is how I feel for now.....
Yes, I totally agree. They are taking over so much even I am getting sick of them!

I am afraid if they go to the TP we will become deluged with requests from people who are not on the list and I will spend all day every day explaining what you have to do etc... I agree that they need their own place to be because I think it may be putting off newbies and old timers alike but I wish they could have their own place within the Diapering sub-forum. I don't want to be responsible for handling non-diaper related fairying, KWIM?

I REALLY appreciate MDC being willing to work with us on this because I think the DF has been a great thing for a lot of our mamas... but I do agree that it is taking over and needs a separate place to be and whether that is an entire forum or a daily or weekly thread I am also on the fence. I'm not too pro it leaving the Diapering sub-forum though.
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So far the Fairy Circle hasn't had the kind of response that Diapering fairy threads have...but I can see when I click on new posts that those threads are frequent. I'm all for putting our fairy circle in the TP eventually, but feel that at least right now, the more attention brought to it on the main boards (TAO is where the posts are) the better.

Part of the idea is that the community be motivated to share and encourage one another, and unless someone goes specifically looking for such threads on TP, that feeling is lost. I like reading how people were fairied. I do think Diaper Fairy and Fairy Circle are different, in that diapering excludes all who do not cd while Fairy Circle encourage every member to take part.

Just my .02...ultimately it's just important to me that we be able to give one another a needed pick me up from time to time-where the threads are kept is really not that important.
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We must definately make it clear that Diaper Fairy and Fairy Circle are two different things...

As said by rachel diaper fairy is for those that cd... and fairy circle is for everyone... and we have had a good response but since it is still new we havent as much participation as the diaper fairy....

also i think maybe if we can put the thank yous for either fairy in their own threads.. much like the RAK thank you threads in TP. That will also cut down the amount of threads started to thank their fairy... jus an idea...
My 2c...


Perhaps the MDC Fairy List could habe a subforum in TAO - as this is one of the boards nearly all the members can go to. There can maybe be a sticky telling people how to join etc and then there can be threads for "thank-you's". The same can be done on the diaper boards.

What do you guys think?

Thanks to the Powers that Be for organising this and for being so responsive!
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Oh and just wanted to make the "rules" of the MDC Fairy List clear so that if anything nees to be modified then we can do it:

1. To join, a member needs to be have been a registered member of MDC for at leaste 2 months and have a MINUMUM of 50 posts.

2. Members must submit their names, addresses, allergies, dislikes (ie if religeous or political gifts are preferable) and ages of any children.

3. Members who only wish to Fairy and not be Fairied, still need to submit their details but their names will not appear on the List.

4. If a member wants to be a Fairy, they need to contact an Administrator for relevent details.

5. Fairies are requested to remain annonymous (We would like to know if this is vital for the MDC Fairy List to continue)

6. Gifts do NOT have to be of monetary value.

So far the response has been great... We have only been around a short time and already we have over 100 members! There have also been quite a bit of Fairying taking place and it seems as though members are responding well and are enjoying the Fairy List.

Thanks once again for the time and energy being put into this!!!
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I would like to address a few points but please know that my word is up for discussion just as much as anyone else's.
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As we mods discussed it there was some reluctance about The DF leaving Diapering. I would have no problem with a sticky in Diapering or TAO for the MDC fairy directing people to TP. It seems to me that it would be good to have them in a place where we already have set requirements for participation. Especially in Diapering, we see it as a way to encourage members to visit other boards. Or as our buddy Pam says, give 'em a kick out of the nest. :LOL

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I am afraid if they go to the TP we will become deluged with requests from people who are not on the list and I will spend all day every day explaining what you have to do etc...
Sheena, what about if we have a sticky in the forum with all the rules and guidelines like we do for the TP?

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I don't want to be responsible for handling non-diaper related fairying, KWIM?
I was thinking we could have 2 different Fairy threads, not combining the two. I also think that moving them out of Diapering would help with the "Woe is me..." posts that have been appearing.
Since the TP is not really a discussion board, people would be less likely to hint for gifts, kwim? I also think that Fairy thank yous could be posted with driving everyone nuts!

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So far the Fairy Circle hasn't had the kind of response that Diapering fairy threads have...but I can see when I click on new posts that those threads are frequent. I'm all for putting our fairy circle in the TP eventually, but feel that at least right now, the more attention brought to it on the main boards (TAO is where the posts are) the better.
Rachee, what about a thread that we could bump or even a sticky?

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Part of the idea is that the community be motivated to share and encourage one another, and unless someone goes specifically looking for such threads on TP, that feeling is lost.
Could this still be accomplished if it were in TP? If I see a post by Raven that she is having a bad day, I could just go to the TP and see if she is on the list. Right now, if someone sees a post and wants to cheer that person up, they still have to find the Fairy Thread and then click on the link to the off site list right? Would this be the same # of steps? Not trying to be difficult, I am truly wondering.

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also i think maybe if we can put the thank yous for either fairy in their own threads.. much like the RAK thank you threads in TP. That will also cut down the amount of threads started to thank their fairy... jus an idea...
I think we could either have a sticky that people could post to or just encourage 1 thread per fairy a day.

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Perhaps the MDC Fairy List could habe a subforum in TAO - as this is one of the boards nearly all the members can go to. There can maybe be a sticky telling people how to join etc and then there can be threads for "thank-you's". The same can be done on the diaper boards
What about a sticky just describing what the Fairy list is and then directing members, via link, to the TP to read the rules,sign up and begin participating?

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5. Fairies are requested to remain annonymous (We would like to know if this is vital for the MDC Fairy List to continue)
Are you asking if we require the Fairies to be anonymous? I am a bit confused.

Thank you all for the great input. I look forward to getting this all worked out and placing it on the baords.
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Stephanie


Thanks for the response...

I think my biggest "problem" with having the Fairy List in TP is that it kinda makes it too formal, kwim? I also think that the DF and MDC Fairy needs to be CLEARLY seperate so as not to get them confused.

I dont quite understand why they need to be in TP because ppl dont post ISO's and then get fairied...

I still think that the simplest way to do this is subforums within the Diaper forums and TAO. That way they will be kept seperate and people can post thank you's there. The MDC Fairy List sticky in the subforum can explain the rules and show this link to show the names of current members.

Am I being a pain in the
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Are you asking if we require the Fairies to be anonymous? I am a bit confused.


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. It seems to me that it would be good to have them in a place where we already have set requirements for participation.
I dont think this is all that serious.... Again... I dont think they should go there.... (yes I am a pain in the
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Especially in Diapering, we see it as a way to encourage members to visit other boards. Or as our buddy Pam says, give 'em a kick out of the nest.
Now really!


:LOL

If moms only want to post in certain forums, thats their choice. Why do we want to force them out?!

Disclaimer: The rest of dont bite.......

Unless of course you ask nicely...
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Hello mamas and forgive me for not being present from the start. I awoke to all the racist issues and had to sort through that. Still doing so.

First of all let me say that what I would like to offer is a page here at Mothering set up just for the Fairy and other giving lists. Of course those organizing would be responsible for only the lists they volunteerd for and not whatever arises for whatever other lists. I hope, Sheena, that it can all be worded and perhaps an FAQ included as part of the setup so the questions would be minimal and no one would have to spend chunk of time responding to people.

I do have a few questions though. This one for you Sheena: You said "I am afraid if they go to the TP we will become deluged with requests from people who are not on the list"

Do you mean by this that the Diaper Fairy is limited to only certain members in Diapering?
Please clarify that for me. I was under the impression that anyone at MDC could take part. If that's not the case then we need to discuss the very essence of the list intentions before proceeding. We must keep in mind that members who are not active posters to Diapering and new mommies that are thinking to CD might be interested in taking part.

That aside I do think if we set up the info page as an html page and permit everyone that wishes to link to it through their signatures then it should be fine and not need direct hosting in TP. What we could place in TP is a subforum (or rename the Swaps and Co-ops forum to Swaps Co-ops and Fairies or somthing like that) so that the extraneous posting about the topic could be corralled in one place and not spilling over into other boards. If threads are started we need a place to move them. We can't move threads to an existing thread unless we merge them which can get complicated. And then we do have the rules of the TP that would be something governing participation.

However, I can see that general discussion and pleasure posting can stay in a single thread in Diapering and in TAO or a thread that is in Diapering and TAO but redirected to TP and stickied. That's workable (i think).

Another question, this time for Raven:
"4. If a member wants to be a Fairy, they need to contact an Administrator for relevent details."

By Administrator are you referring to the organizers? I think the terminology would have to be changed so as not to confuse.

General question - is it necessary for the "I want/need" posts to be made to the board? Can we rechannel them so that the 'begging' is not given space?
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Thanks Cynthia!

Organizers is a much better term I think instead of Administrator!


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Originally Posted by Cynthia Mosher
However, I can see that general discussion and pleasure posting can stay in a single thread in Diapering and in TAO or a thread that is in Diapering and TAO but redirected to TP and stickied. That's workable (i think).
Thats a good idea! But I still dont think it should be in TP....
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Originally Posted by Cynthia Mosher
General question - is it necessary for the "I want/need" posts to be made to the board? Can we rechannel them so that the 'begging' is not given space?
I dont know how the DF works (Im guessing in the same way the MDC FL works...) but there are no requests to be fairied. If someone sees that a mama is having a bad day, etc she can fairy her as a surprise.
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I also think that the DF and MDC Fairy needs to be CLEARLY seperate so as not to get them confused.
I agree. I think this could easily be done in the TP.

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I dont quite understand why they need to be in TP because ppl dont post ISO's and then get fairied...
I think *our feeling is that it belongs there. We try to keep TAO as a board for things that do not have a place of their own. I feel that since Fairying has to do with giving and receiving, it should be in the TP.

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I still think that the simplest way to do this is subforums within the Diaper forums and TAO. That way they will be kept seperate and people can post thank you's there. The MDC Fairy List sticky in the subforum can explain the rules and show this link to show the names of current members.
I have 2 thoughts on this. 1. I think people tend to miss the subforums sometimes. 2. I think we could still have a sticky at the top of the main Diapering and TAO boards directing people to the approprite place.

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Am I being a pain in the
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But we love you anyway.
:LOL

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If moms only want to post in certain forums, thats their choice. Why do we want to force them out?!
If that is what they choose to do that is fine. However, the problems arise when said members post non relevant info on the wrong boards. If DiaperingmamaA gets sick and posts in Diapering because that is who she knows, we have to move the thread. Same goes for AliceX who posts a parenting question in TAO. It needs to be moved. Not that moving threads is a huge problem but why not post in the correct forum in the first place, kwim?

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Do you mean by this that the Diaper Fairy is limited to only certain members in Diapering?
Cynthia, as of now, all fairy lists are for members who have met the criteria for the TP 2m/50p.

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However, I can see that general discussion and pleasure posting can stay in a single thread in Diapering and in TAO or a thread that is in Diapering and TAO but redirected to TP and stickied. That's workable (i think).
I agree however, I do not think Diapering threads have stayed to 1 thread. Every mama that gets fairied wants her own thread to show off her fluff. At least that has been my perception.

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General question - is it necessary for the "I want/need" posts to be made to the board? Can we rechannel them so that the 'begging' is not given space?
I thought I had addressed this before but maybe not. Another reason I like the TP. It is not really a discussion board so it would knock out the hinting threads.

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I dont know how the DF works (Im guessing in the same way the MDC FL works...) but there are no requests to be fairied. If someone sees that a mama is having a bad day, etc she can fairy her as a surprise.
Raven there are not outright requests (well not usually
) but there has been a lot of pity me threads going on in Diapering.

OK Raven am I a pain in your
yet? :LOL
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I'm fine with the sticky idea in TAO and then the fairy circle being placed in the TP...of course I'm pretty new around here, so I don't know how these things are supposed to work.
Like tnrsmom said, same number of steps.

I'm just concerned about the visibility since it is so new. I don't know much else to do to promote it though, other than the link in our sig lines and continually bumping the fairy circle thread :LOL, so a sticky would get just about the same visibility we have now, IMO.

Term "administrator"...when setting up the Fairy list originally, I just shamelessly stole this term from the Diapering Fairy guidelines, so "organizers", "fairy godmothers", whatever you want to call us is fine with me


I really like the anonymous nature of the MDC fairy, but it just appeals to me...there's no good reason it needs to stay anonymous if that's a problem.


Rachel
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Originally Posted by tnrsmom
OK Raven am I a pain in your
yet? :LOL


But Im
and I like that sorta thing


:LOL

Seriouly, I see where you are coming from and I have seen the Light!!!


That would work... but is the idea of subforums a total
maybe we could have a poll?
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Ok, Im not done being a pain in the
just yet....

Just a question....

Do we have to do away with the site we are using for the list???
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Alright i am here.. so duck and hide.... :LOL

ive always wanted ppl to be scared of my posts.. i dont know why... but anyways back on topic...

The MDC FL does not take requests for fairying.. its completely whoever wants to fairy someone on the list can... i dont know how DF works.. thats not my department...

i do agree with a sticky of some sort but not everyone reads those.. im still tryin to figure out the mdc essential oil thing... :LOL

there have been more members with the join the fairy list in their sigs so i want to make sure that the MDC FL organizers, admin, whatever are clearly stated...

I think we should allow each user to determine if they want to remain anonymous... if someone wants to sign a card or whatever i think they should be allowed... and maybe if the person who is fairied wants to thank them can do so privately and if want to thank them on the boards jus leave out the persons identity (if that makes sense)

i still say thanks you should have their own thread... where all the thank yous can be put into one spot instead of having a bunch of different threads in one forum... (if that makes sense)

all ppl need to be redirected to the MDC FL in order to make sure those mamas are on it... not everyone goes into TP i jus started going in there last month and ive been a member for months... maybe we could have a subforum in TP... and have an area for DF and MDC FL so they remain seperate... (sorry if someone already suggested that my brain is mush)

ok thats my .02
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Originally Posted by RacheePoo
I really like the anonymous nature of the MDC fairy, but it just appeals to me...there's no good reason it needs to stay anonymous if that's a problem.


Rachel
I do not know that there is a reason it needs to be anonymous. I agree with the idea though. RAK are not so that someone gets noticed or thanked, kwim? Obviously we can not make it mandatory but we could suggest it for that exact reason. It will make the MDC FL and DF seem more "Random".

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Seriouly, I see where you are coming from and I have seen the Light!!!

:LOL

Gotta go, step dad just called with update on mom. Back with more later.
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Sorry, I'm out of town right now and forgot to come visit this thread until today. I'll read to catch up and then post again.
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