[Cersha]

From my Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child...

Any thoughts?

 

[AJP]

And their evidence for this is...?

 

[Pinky Tuscadero]

Maybe *those* fats...canola, soybean oil, etc
Not *my* fats...lard, butter, tallow, cream. No way do I believe that.
Off to eat my morning bowl of fat!

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

If they are actually referring to animal fats, then I must have some sort of super power in me that takes care of all that lard, butter and cream that I eat LOL!!!!!!

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[spughy]

That is ridiculous.

Think about it. Pre-agriculture, HOW would kids have gotten enough calories to thrive, were it not for fats? You can bet the little cave-kids were out scavenging the midden-piles looking for bones small enough to crack open and suck the marrow out. (Marrow is a traditional children's food in most cultures, and it's nearly all fat.) In the absence of heavy carbohydrate sources provided by agriculture (and subsidized big-ag grain corps that tend to fund studies that say you should pile grains into kids), children NEED fats to grow. The brain is all fat - it's gotta come from somewhere, and fat is the easiest source.

My kid eats LOADS of fat. She is, as my mom says "the only healthy-looking kid on the playground."

 

[ursusarctos]

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Originally Posted by Pinky Tuscadero Maybe *those* fats...canola, soybean oil, etc Not *my* fats...lard, butter, tallow, cream. No way do I believe that. Off to eat my morning bowl of fat!

: and

 

[Cersha]

I thought it sounded crazy, I mean, how much fat is in breastmilk?

 

[Cersha]

There isn't any evidence stated, the paragraph just recommends when your children are ill, you should limit fats because their digestive system has to work too hard to process it.

 

[Equuskia]

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Originally Posted by Cersha There isn't any evidence stated, the paragraph just recommends when your children are ill, you should limit fats because their digestive system has to work too hard to process it.

Aren't chicken soup and bone broths full of fat? And isn't this what is recommended for children (and adults) when they are sick?

 

[tanyalynn]

That book gives a lot of different ideas for dealing with illnesses or various conditions (although IMO their nutritional supps are too low dose, and giving a beta-carotene supp to a sick little kid is nuts) and I appreciate that, but I skip their nutritional advice. It's the same low fat, high-grain stuff I've read elsewhere.

That said, I have seen that when my kids are sick, oftentimes their poop will float for a few days after, I think they're having trouble absorbing the fat. So I watch the kids and see how they feel as to whether I should cut back on fat when they're sick.

 

[Cersha]

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Originally Posted by Equuskia Aren't chicken soup and bone broths full of fat? And isn't this what is recommended for children (and adults) when they are sick?

You know, that's a good point. A few bullet points before that, they recommend broths along with other clear liquids.

 

[hummingmom]

I think it's pretty traditional to limit fats for sick children ("traditional" meaning pre-industrial times; I have no idea about ancient cultures). In an acute illness, they would typically be given light fluids such as herbal teas, barley water, beef tea made with lean beef, or broth with most of the fat taken off. Those who were "on the mend" would get moderate amounts of the best quality, easiest-to-digest fats and proteins, such raw milk and raw eggs in eggnog. They still wouldn't be served much in the way of cooked fats, such as fatty stewed meat, greasy chicken stock, or fried foods.

This makes sense, as cooked fats are widely believed to put a greater burden on the liver, which -- as an immune organ -- is already under an extra burden in times of illness. Of course, the same would apply to oxidized vegetable fats. But that doesn't mean that that "fats" -- as a category -- are indigestible, especially for healthy people. What a peculiar thing to say.

 

[henny penny]

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Originally Posted by hummingmom I think it's pretty traditional to limit fats for sick children ("traditional" meaning pre-industrial times; I have no idea about ancient cultures). In an acute illness, they would typically be given light fluids such as herbal teas, barley water, beef tea made with lean beef, or broth with most of the fat taken off. Those who were "on the mend" would get moderate amounts of the best quality, easiest-to-digest fats and proteins, such raw milk and raw eggs in eggnog. They still wouldn't be served much in the way of cooked fats, such as fatty stewed meat, greasy chicken stock, or fried foods. This makes sense, as cooked fats are widely believed to put a greater burden on the liver, which -- as an immune organ -- is already under an extra burden in times of illness. Of course, the same would apply to oxidized vegetable fats. But that doesn't mean that that "fats" -- as a category -- are indigestible, especially for healthy people. What a peculiar thing to say.

Great answer!!
It is well established that growing babies, toddlers, and children need lots of high quality fats for proper development.

 

[Ruthla]

I'd like to change the word "fats" to " grains" in that sentence!

I do very well on a high-fat, low carb diet. I do well on a high fat, moderate carb diet, as long as those extra carbs come from fruits and veggies rather than grains. I'm a little higher this week due to the Passover holiday, but in general I do best on 3-4 grain servings per week (no grains some days, half a serving some days, a whole serving on Friday night and Saturday afternoons.)

Yes, I can't tolerate too many fats when I have a GI bug or when I'm getting over one. So the advice to limit fats during GI healing does make sense. But the whole thing about "healthy bodies" and fats has no basis.

 

[TzippityDoulah]

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Originally Posted by henny penny Great answer!! It is well established that growing babies, toddlers, and children need lots of high quality fats for proper development.

hey lady, I was here first!!!

(seriously... I've never noticed anyone having the same name as me... too funny!)

 

[ParisApril]

I think it would depend on the kind of fat they are talking about. Fat in a Happy Meal at McDonalds, yes. Fat in a nut or in whole raw milk, no.

 

[gardenmommy]

During a healing crisis, I think it is totally appropriate to limit fat intake. Who really wants to eat high-fat food when you are feeling like everything that goes down has a possibility to come back in an hour or so?

When you are healthy, different story. Eat fat, and lots of it, IMO.

 

[henny penny]

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Originally Posted by HennyPenny hey lady, I was here first!!! (seriously... I've never noticed anyone having the same name as me... too funny!)

Hi there! I didn't know about your HennyPenny, either! Yes, that could get confusing......

 

[TzippityDoulah]

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Originally Posted by henny penny Hi there! I didn't know about your HennyPenny, either! Yes, that could get confusing......

guess we aren't on the same threads much since we've never noticed one another!

no but really, I noticed you b/c I saw my name on this thread and I read your response and i thought to myself... "I KNOW I never read this thread before - how did I possibly reply?!"

yeah a bit of a stupid moment

haha

ok sorry for hijacking the thread, OP!