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i dont want to start solids until the baby is ready but my 3 month old totally freaks out if iam eating

i was eating pizza and holding it in the same hand he was in cause i was helping my 2yr old do something i feel my 3 month old grab my hand and when i look at him he is eating the pizza i take it away hand him a toy and take the little bit of pizza that is in his mouth out

we eat dinner together at the table he sits in the high chair up to the table he will lean forward to get to the table to try and grab at our plates and then start screaming cause we wont share with him he has toys to play with spoons and bowls to play with too

soo does this mean he is ready for solids or what does this mean he weighs 15lbs and wears size 6-9 months he is very healthy and loves booby milk hehehe

my first born never cared for food and still doesnt care for it heck he didnt start eating really until 18 months i never forced him or anything i just offered and he would throw it on the floor and then nurse lol at 2 yrs old when he weaned he will eat but just a few bites which is fine he is 2.5 and weighs 27 lbs and is 36 inches totally healthy

anyways solid feeding is all new to me since my first born never did it soo what do i do? do i wait until 6 months like i want too or do i just go with the baby and let him eat food? i have noo idea what to do
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Wait until at least 4 months, and if you start then, don't give them more than a bite or two at a time.
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Wait until at least 4 months, and if you start then, don't give them more than a bite or two at a time.
Actually the current recommendation is to wait until at least 6 months.

Reaching for and grabbing at food and screaming when he doesn't get it doesn't mean he's ready for solids. Right now my 9 month old tries to reach for our electrical outlets (all covered up) and when we move him away, he screams. But that doesn't mean he's ready to be an electrician.

Starting solids before a baby's digestive system is ready is a set up for allergies and digestive issues later on in life.

The signs to watch for: sitting up unassisted, loss of the tongue thrust reflex, the ability to pick up small items and move them to the mouth (ala pincer grasp), the ability to swallow food that has been chewed rather than food that has been sucked, and an interest in eating.

Try to wait until 6 months. IMO, a little before 6 months would be okay IF your child is exhbiting all the readiness signs--we started solids at 5 1/2 months because DS was doing all these things.
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thanks for the help i want to wait until 6 months and i will wait until he shows signs he is ready
You could try giving him 'momsicles' in the meantime - frozen breastmilk in a mesh feeder. Or breastmilk yoghurt if you can get hold of the cultures to make it yourself.
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Actually the current recommendation is to wait until at least 6 months.
No, the current recommendation is 4-6 months.

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...rics;121/1/183

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This policy is a revision of the policy posted on August 1, 2000.

CLINICAL REPORT

PEDIATRICS Vol. 121 No. 1 January 2008

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Although solid foods should not be introduced before 4 to 6 months of age, there is no current convincing evidence that delaying their introduction beyond this period has a significant protective effect on the development of atopic disease regardless of whether infants are fed cow milk protein formula or human milk. This includes delaying the introduction of foods that are considered to be highly allergic, such as fish, eggs, and foods containing peanut protein.
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I thought the recommendation was 4-6 months until recently when it was changed to 6 months but not before 4 months (nit-picking, I know, but I think it matters).
This AAP statement says 6 months in several places:

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...115/2/496#SEC6

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The AAP Section on Breastfeeding, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, American Academy of Family Physicians, Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine, World Health Organization, United Nations Children's Fund, and many other health organizations recommend exclusive breastfeeding for the first 6 months of life.{ddagger}2,127-130
-Angela
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...rics;115/2/496

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Pediatricians and parents should be aware that exclusive breastfeeding is sufficient to support optimal growth and development for approximately the first 6 months of life
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Complementary foods rich in iron should be introduced gradually beginning around 6 months of age.186-187
The policy I posted is a revision of the 2005 policy you guys are posting. They changed it to 4-6 months because there wasn't any evidence to support the "no earlier than 6 months" rule.
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The policy I posted is a revision of the 2005 policy you guys are posting. They changed it to 4-6 months because there wasn't any evidence to support the "no earlier than 6 months" rule.
Nope. Yours is a revision of a different policy. The one I posted still stands. They're on slightly different topics.

They each have at the top links to what they're an update to and if they've been revised, there's a link to the revised one. (go to the one you linked to, at the top it says "This policy is a revision of the policy posted on August 1, 2000." click that, then in the new one you'll see it says "This policy has been revised by the policy posted on January 1, 2008." ) The one I posted has not been revised.

-Angela
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Nope. Yours is a revision of a different policy. The one I posted still stands. They're on slightly different topics.

They each have at the top links to what they're an update to and if they've been revised, there's a link to the revised one. (go to the one you linked to, at the top it says "This policy is a revision of the policy posted on August 1, 2000." click that, then in the new one you'll see it says "This policy has been revised by the policy posted on January 1, 2008." ) The one I posted has not been revised.

-Angela
Oops. You're right.

Ok, the 2005 policy says:

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Complementary foods rich in iron should be introduced gradually beginning around 6 months of age.186-187 Preterm and low birth weight infants and infants with hematologic disorders or infants who had inadequate iron stores at birth generally require iron supplementation before 6 months of age.148,188-192 Iron may be administered while continuing exclusive breastfeeding.

Unique needs or feeding behaviors of individual infants may indicate a need for introduction of complementary foods as early as 4 months of age, whereas other infants may not be ready to accept other foods until approximately 8 months of age.193
And the 2008 policy (that's specifically about when to introduce solids) says that any time between 4 and 6 months is ok.

I sort of take it collectively to mean that nothing other than breastmilk should be given in a quantity that's a "significant" source of nutrition (like, replacing breastmilk) before 6 months, but it's not harmful to let them have very small amounts as early as 4 months if they seem really into it. There's nothing bad that will happen if you let your 5 mo have a sip of your vegetable soup, for example.
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Mine reached for paper, spoons, food, etc...but just wanted to put them in his mouth. He wasn't trying to tell me he needed to consume them for calories. Think about it from his perspective...he's sitting at the table, and everyone is playing with their food, and he doesn't get a piece of the toy. No fair!

We ended up putting our son on the dining room floor to play while we ate, because I was tired of the grabbing, fussing, writhing, etc. It really helped. Now that he's old enough for food, he actually has little interest in it.
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I sort of take it collectively to mean that nothing other than breastmilk should be given in a quantity that's a "significant" source of nutrition (like, replacing breastmilk) before 6 months, but it's not harmful to let them have very small amounts as early as 4 months if they seem really into it. There's nothing bad that will happen if you let your 5 mo have a sip of your vegetable soup, for example.
Well, it expounds pretty clearly on NOTHING but breastmilk being given. Also when I first googled it I found a number of other statements supporting this on different fronts (illness etc) I don't have time to go re-search right now, but I'll try to later.

The 4 months thing really is saying children with special needs of some sort...

-Angela
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And the 2008 policy (that's specifically about when to introduce solids) says that any time between 4 and 6 months is ok.
The one I linked is specifically about breastfeeding, instead of being about solids...

-Angela
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Well, it expounds pretty clearly on NOTHING but breastmilk being given. Also when I first googled it I found a number of other statements supporting this on different fronts (illness etc) I don't have time to go re-search right now, but I'll try to later.

The 4 months thing really is saying children with special needs of some sort...

-Angela
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Pediatricians and parents should be aware that exclusive breastfeeding is sufficient to support optimal growth and development for approximately the first 6 months of life
That's not saying really small amounts that don't replace breastmilk are to be avoided.

And it's the later policy on the introduction of solids that says 4 months is fine. (although, we're talking about in terms of potential harm relating to atopic disorders, not nutrition, but I'm not advocating solids for nutrition before 6 months...just saying flavors and textures as a fun sensory experience for babies who are curious isn't bad.)

I think I know you well enough to guess that you're not really a big fan of policy over evidence (
) so maybe we should break this down into a discussion of the evidence.

I'll start.

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There is no evidence that small amounts of solids for fun, but not in quantities that reduce breastmilk consumption, are harmful between 4 and 6 months.

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True or false?
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There is no evidence that small amounts of solids for fun, but not in quantities that reduce breastmilk consumption, are harmful between 4 and 6 months.

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True or false?


Not clear in research... research shows both it seems


From my link:

"Exclusive breastfeeding is defined as an infant's consumption of human milk with no supplementation of any type (no water, no juice, no nonhuman milk, and no foods) except for vitamins, minerals, and medications.131 Exclusive breastfeeding has been shown to provide improved protection against many diseases and to increase the likelihood of continued breastfeeding for at least the first year of life."

bolding mine.

When I get time later I'll find more links


-Angela
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