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so, i kind of knew sprout was already head-down, since all my kicks were up in my ribs. but we went for our m/w appt this week and she confirmed it for me. the baby's anterior and head-down, and right now has his/her back towards my right side though two weeks ago the back was definitely on my left side.<br><br>
anyway it got me curious. i know it's too early to really even care about this stuff, and i'm certainly not worried in the least, but how common is it for a baby to flip from head-down to breech at this point? i'm assuming pretty rare (gravity etc) but also wasn't sure if i should just consider myself 'in the clear.'<br><br>
i assume it's a lot easier for a baby to flip from anterior to posterior, though, yeah? in any event, my m/w wants me to stop squatting until the baby's head is lower and we're sure s/he's staying in a good position. she also showed me some exercises/ways to sit etc. that should keep him/her in a good position. of course now i think about it all the time -- i'm always trying to picture how s/he's laying, but it's so hard to figure out -- i feel so many different kinds of movements all over. i can feel feet and bum pretty easily but i still get really confused. sometimes i feel like s/he's doing some wacky things in there! will this get easier as baby gets bigger and has less space?
 

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our baby is breech -- i am 31 weeks -- and everyone keeps telling me it is no big deal ?????<br><br>
Theo was head down and "in place" from week 18 on -- our first US and we had 6 more before our birth at week 38 -- always head down.<br><br>
All I can say is doig all the good stuff -- taylor sit, lean forward with loose tummy, spend time crawling and so on ...... and try not to worry.<br><br>
Aimee
 

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i think it's because most babies that are breech at this point still flip before birth.<br><br>
yeah, i'm just trying to be conscious of how i'm sitting, etc, to keep baby in this nice position. at the same time, the baby got in this position without me being conscious of it so i don't want to stress myself out too much -- i mean, it would be a real bummer to, like, not lay with my feet up when i'm reading before bed!
 

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Well, I don't know how common it is, but I know that my baby, who has been head down for the past 8 weeks just flipped to vertex at nearly 30 weeks. Neither of my others did that. They stayed head down from about halfway through the pregnancy. I do know that gravity can play a role, such as putting your feet up in bed. That actually might encourage baby to flip to a breech position, if your bum is higher than your upper belly, kwim. But honestly, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I didn't do anything different with my first two once they were head down and they stayed that way. Haven't done anything different this time, but she's flipped. But with a first baby, they don't have as much room as a third baby, since the uterus is all stretched out now. So, I'd say, you have nothing to worry about at this point.
 

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There is a great fetal position website, <a href="http://www.spinningbabies.com" target="_blank">www.spinningbabies.com</a> that'll tell you all kinds of interesting stuff.<br><br>
But my LO was breech at my last appt and I think s/he still is. I'm trying not to worry about it since I know they can flip. Sometimes I think s/he flips back and forth!<br><br>
At this point it is less likely that a head down baby will turn breech but not entirely impossible. A baby can turn in labor! But it's unlikely. Going from posterior to anterior can change frequently though. I follow all recommendations for that every minute of every day. But babies can even switch that position in labor as well!<br><br>
My OB wasn't too worried about position at my last appt but I plan to have him check at this next appt.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I do know that gravity can play a role, such as putting your feet up in bed. That actually might encourage baby to flip to a breech position, if your bum is higher than your upper belly, kwim. But honestly, I wouldn't worry about it too much.</div>
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well, after talking to my m/w i realized how gravity plays a role so now when i keep my feet up in bed, i still make sure i'm sitting upright from belly up if that makes sense -- very straight-spined -- and sit on pillows so that my knees are slightly lower than my hips, etc. think that's good enough?<br><br>
i want to be cognizant, but particularly on the days when i teach (2xs a week) and end up on hard subway chairs for 3hrs round trip, i'm just not going to sit on my hard dining room chairs for the rest of the night!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There is a great fetal position website, <a href="http://www.spinningbabies.com" target="_blank">www.spinningbabies.com</a> that'll tell you all kinds of interesting stuff.</div>
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haha, i totally stalk spinningbabies, which is not to say that it all makes sense to me. i find the organization of both the page itself and the prose to be sort of crazy and hard to follow. i don't remember it being so darn disorganized when i looked at it when a friend was pregnant last year. but it definitely is useful to extent.
 

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First of all, my Dr. said that positioning doesn't mean much until 36 weeks, as babies still have room to move around before then if they want to.<br><br>
However, it IS possible for babies to move after that. There are stories out there of babies flipping from breech to head-down during labor! My DD was the opposite--she flipped TO breech at 37 weeks and then wouldn't budge. It can happen. These little ones like to keep us guessing!
 

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In total agreement there<br><br>
if you search threads i started -- there is one on breech-ness -- and a few poeple were nice enough to "tranlate" for me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I will try to look back for it tomorrow<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">In total agreement there<br><br>
if you search threads i started -- there is one on breech-ness -- and a few poeple were nice enough to "tranlate" for me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I will try to look back for it tomorrow<br><br>
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i totally read that thread! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
right now i'm most concerned with keeping baby anterior...i think ive decoded all the suggestions on spinningbabies for that. maybe. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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My DS flip floped back and forth in all positions until we caught him head down at 39 weeks and then I was told to squat A LOT to get his head engaged. What terror! But he did it. He is still so wiggly. 18lbs and 18 months. The doctors and midwife say the wiggliest baby/child ever!
 

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So, to steal the thread a little, I read a lot on spinningbabies last night. Never needed to with the other two, as they were cooperative, "good" babies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> and stayed head down from early on. But this baby seems to be changing positions about twice a day the last few days. I feel the most movement on my lower left side now (previously, I'm pretty sure that's where her head was - vertex). Now, I'm thinking she's almost completely breech. Does that sound right? Her feet and knees are doing a number on my left side, mostly lower, surely she can be head down. What do you all think? Just trying to picture where she's at. Since she's moving around so much, I'm going to try the inversion technique a few times today and tomorrow and see if that gets her back into the right position.
 

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My second son was breech at 38 weeks and flipped head down in time for a regular delivery. I wouldn't be too concerned yet.<br><br>
Geneva also flipped from posterior to anterior during labor, so that can change as well. Honestly, I don't even watch out for my sitting or posture because it's so early.
 

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I know that the heavier their heads get, the more likely they are to turn vertex and then stay there. My babes seem to like to turn head down about 28-29 weeks. But some don't figure it out until 37-38 weeks. And sometimes they do flip-flop at the last minute... I know one mama whose baby was head down the day before she went into labor, then at 8 cm they discovered baby was breech. Another mama whose baby was breech when her water broke, OB immediately took her in for a c/s, and baby was head-down when they opened her up. Which would really suck but anyway... I think breech only happens about 5% of the time though? So 95% of the babies get it figured out. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Interesting tangent: I read that at the turn of the 20th century doctors routinely moved babies *into* a footling breech position because they thought it was the easiest way for mama to deliver. Start with the smallest part and work their way to the biggest. And now we are so breech-phobic that most docs won't even consider a vaginal breech and a footling is like, one of the positions that scare them the most!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Oh yeah, babies do a lot of rotating even during labor! They kind of corkscrew their way out...<br><br>
I always wonder, the babies/mamas who persistently struggle with breech or posterior positioning, especially in more than one PG, if there is something about that mama's body that makes that breech/posterior position better for their babies for some reason? Maybe nature still knows best?
 

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I think it is still very common for them to be flipping and turning at this point. we are only around 30-ish weeks. baby is only in the 3lb area....lots of room still in there for them.<br><br>
I've had my one baby stay transverse(sideways) till right up until I delivered. that was just the way she wanted to lay! LOL<br><br>
I've heard of many babies flipping back and forth between breech and vertex at this point. its not that big of a deal.
 

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I wish I could figure out my baby's position. I've read the stuff on spinningbabies about diagramming the baby's position, but I'm having a hard time with it. Most everything I feel is around my belly button, sometimes a bit to the left, recently a bit to the right. Midwife suspects he's head down, with his back along my left side. I'm just having a hard time visualizing it...
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Well, at the 21 week u/s the baby was head down with his face pressed into my right pelvic bone. The placenta was right-posterior so I guess he was facing it. Now I'm not sure where he is or what he's doing- jumping jacks? mowing the lawn? practicing gymnastics?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> It almost feels like he's flipping around b/c I could swear his head was pushing up into my ribs the other night or else he's got a really hard backside.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Who knows. Both the other 2 were head down though- dd was posterior and born that way<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: ds was in the 'perfect' position.
 

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DS was breach forever, I think I was close to 40 weeks before he settled down, thankfully, as I really didnt have a plan for delivering a breach baby, esp my first. And when he did flip..ouch. I knew it. I'm glad my mw was laid back about it all...she doesnt even bother to check til at least 36 weeks, and even then she knows its not always a def thing.<br><br>
This one is going between transverse and vertex.
 

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I was just talking to dh about this. How the heck can you tell the position? How can our mws tell?<br>
Anyhow, both my babes were head down and stayed that way in time for labor, of course, this babe is all over the place, but I guess that doesn't mean much right now.
 

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Ugh. No kidding. When DD flipped breech at full term it woke me out of a deep sleep in horrible pain. I called my Dr. first thing in the morning--I knew we had a problem--there is no mistaking a baby that big flipping around (DD was 8 pounds 9 ounces)!
 
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