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The Valentine's Day chat is with the author of the recent article about FGM. Anybody with the article in front of them up to chatting & educating? (I am a bad, bad chatter, I type slowly & badly.)<br><br>
I don't think those kind of errors should be left to stand unopposed. ALL of us fighting MGM oppose FGM. Why some opponents of FGM minimize & misconstrue MGM continues to confuse me (especially since some of the strongest female voices opposing FGM readily admit the parallels & fight for boys as well).<br><br>
Circumcision is bad, cruel, unnecessary, & kills girls AND boys.
 

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I'm at work, just popping on to say I hope that I wish it was my day off today so I could be a part of the chat (not do-able from the work computer). I know that there'll be some good educating done by many of you - many thanks!<br><br><br>
- Kira
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Why some opponents of FGM minimize & misconstrue MGM continues to confuse me (especially since some of the strongest female voices opposing FGM readily admit the parallels & fight for boys as well).</div>
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Because <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored">.
 

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Because FGM isn't a part of our culture (you know us civilized folk don't cut on girls <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes"> ).<br>
Last months Mothering article on FGM comes to mind. Duh that's what you are talking about. I don't know how I misunderstood.
 

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I won't have time to chat tomorrow , not to mention 99.9% of the time I'm Naking.<br>
Anyway, here are some point I disagree with:<br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Circumcision <i>(UM you mean MGM)</i> of baby boys is mutilation as well, but it is not the same as FGM ( <i>imo it most certaintly is</i>)<br>
-it does not destroy the ability to experience orgasms <i>(from I've read neither does the most prominent forms of FGM also her quote down plays how MGM affects sex for the male and the femal)</i>..........</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">When we in the western world use the term tradition, we tend to mean carving pumpkins, not flesh......<i>MGM is tradtion and it is cutting flesh, why does she choose to over look this</i></td>
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Her usage of circumcision when writing about boys and mutilation when speaking about girls speaks LOUD and clear on how she feels. There were severals things in this article that left a bad taste in my mouth and I don't see why she found the need to down play MGM to make her point. There is more but I have a fussy babe so I need to go.<br><br>
And why no mention of the boys who under go MGM as a rights of passage , being held down and cut with unsterile glass or blades, in assembly line style. Really why no mention of tribal MGM.
 

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Even if it's the truth, a lot of Americans (mostly them) would tune out somebody detailing the horrors of FGM if they also mentioned how circumcision is mutiliation but just a different kind that gets downplayed and routinely implemented. People can be so unwilling to give themselves a second thought that they'll deride FGM of any form, even the most minor ones, but somehow think that what they did or had done to them was proper and alright.<br><br>
It all stems from some egotistical western view that no matter what surgical procedure is done, it can be justified over other nations because of our "moderness." What a load. Not many are willing to realize that circ is a cruel procedure too that they themselves have committed. So whether they see it or not, all FGM battlers who at the same time see MGM as nothing big, are clear hypocrites and are actually imitating some of the ritual cutters they denounce.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It's tomorrow, K.</div>
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<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> You can see how on the ball I am today! Thanks! Working tomorrow too, but I'l be there in spirit for sure.<br><br><br><br>
- Kira
 

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Is anyone going to be able to do the chat today? I think since she point blank addressed intactivist (For MGM) and in a negative way imo, I do hope someone will comment on what she wrote. I wish I could but I won't be able too. I'm pissed all over again since rereading that article. There was no reason for her to down play MGM to make her point. FGM is horrid on it's own merit. I think it's sad the author obviously does not get the harm that is down by MGM and seems to be just as blinded by our tradition as the people she is writing about are blinded by theirs.
 
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