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I am at a loss about how to get my 6 month old to nurse without a fight. She is acting like it is very painful sometimes to nurse but a doctors appointment today ruled out an ear infection, thrush or teething. I still think it might be teething but he said it did not seem like there were any close so...<br><br>
Here is what she is doing. For several hours, usualy at night, she will scream inconsolably and refuse the breat. She has had the "attacks" several times in a day before with no seeming ryme or reason. Yesterday she was actualy up for 7 hours (not like her) and refused to nurse for 5 of them (normalys nurses every 2 1/2). I could not get her to latch on for more then a minute the whole time but she was gulping down some water that I offered her at hour 6. I gave her tylenol because she seemed to be in extreme pain but it did not work very well.<br><br>
This all started last week and has been getting progressively worse. The only thing realy out of the ordinary is that she got her immunisations on the 27th and had a teething biscuit for the first time on the 26th. My girl is normaly very happy and easy to get to nurse so this is very out of character. She is not a high needs baby.<br><br>
I am getting worried about her not getting enough milk/liquid so any thoughts would be appreciated.<br><br>
TIA<br>
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I don't know the reason this is happening now but kellymom has practical advice here:<br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/back-to-breast.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/back-to-breast.html</a><br><br>
Is she having enough wet and poopy diapers? the wet diapers are clear, not yellow? That gives you a good indication of how hydrated she is. You did a weight check on the 27th? - has she lost weight since then?<br><br>
Has she ever had problems with silent reflux? Although I've never heard of it coming on suddenly at 6 months. Just my dd had a lot of the nursing symptoms, none of the spitting up and after treating it, it has improved - she's not really fussy at the breast anymore. Especially since you say she seems to have pain with nursing makes me think of silent reflux.<br><br>
Have you checked if this could be a reaction to the vax's? I think the doctor might be loathe to admit this so someone on the vax board may have more info.<br><br>
Did the teething biscuit have wheat in it? Cause wheat can be highly allergenic. But this doesn't sound like an allergic reaction.<br><br>
Also may be a nursing strike but I didn't think pain was associated with that.<br><br>
I'd try the kellymom advice and go back to the Dr., tell the Dr. it's getting worse and make them figure it out. Especially since it could be related to the vax.
 

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What vaxes did she get at her appt., and was she sick at all (cold, fever, any antibiotics within the previous month)? I would definitely cross-post on the vax board.<br><br>
Does she have any teeth yet? I have found that I can't see ds' teeth until they're right there at the surface, then he pops one through and it explains all the fussiness. He's never refused to nurse because of a tooth, but he has gotten pretty fussy.<br><br>
Have you called your local LLL leader and/or a lactation consultant about this?<br><br>
Hang in there, mama! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Thank you for the help so far, you guys have given me lots to think about. I have a bit of an update, I think I have narrowed it down to an issue with solids. I have not given her anything solid for 2 days and she is almost back to her old self. I guess this could be a coincidence but I am operating under the assumption that it was something she ate.<br><br>
Wombat, you asked if there was wheat in the teething biscuit and there was. I could kick myself for not thinking more about the indredients before I picked it up. I guess I still assume if something is marketed for babies it is safe for them. I should know better since I am a die hard, nestle boycotting extended nursing breast feeding advocate, lol.<br><br>
You also asked "Is she having enough wet and poopy diapers?" Kinda, she is peeing a little less then I would like and her poop is close to normal schedual (every other day) but it seems harder.<br><br>
"the wet diapers are clear, not yellow?"<br>
Yes, I can honestly say I have not noticed more yellowing of the diaper.<br><br>
"You did a weight check on the 27th? - has she lost weight since then?"<br><br>
To be honest my bathroom scale is of such sucky quality that I would not trust it to be accurate. If she starts the problems again I will bring her in and check though.<br><br>
"Has she ever had problems with silent reflux? Although I've never heard of it coming on suddenly at 6 months. Just my dd had a lot of the nursing symptoms, none of the spitting up and after treating it, it has improved - she's not really fussy at the breast anymore. Especially since you say she seems to have pain with nursing makes me think of silent reflux."<br><br>
I have wondered about this but the symptoms seem too variable to be reflux.<br><br>
I think it may be a reaction to the solids, as I mentioned above. Maybe I will eliminate everything for a few days and then try one thing at a time every other day or so? For that matter, maybe I will just hold off for another month.<br><br>
Does any of this make sense? Any ideas on where to go next would be great. My older two have never had a food reaction so I am totaly clueless about this <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">:<br><br>
Oh, about the LLL, there are none within two hours of where I live and the rural hospital near by does not have a lactation consultant so I am pretty much on my own here. To also respond to Jane's questions, she got the DaPTP (diptheria, tetanus and pertussis) and HiB (Heamophilus influenzae b). She does not have any teeth yet and she was not realy sick at the aapointment. Well, actualy she had sneezed a few times but I thought that had more to do with my less the stelar vacumeing job last week <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
Any of this help someone help me? WWYD?<br><br>
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I would bet it is teeth. Silly dr! Of course pain and breast refusal in a 6 mo could be teeth! it is prime time for teething, of course of course.<br><br><br>
My one dd started teething at 4 months and did not pop a tooth until 11 mos! but she was miserable. Those teeth have to cross gum tissue before they erupt and can cause pain. Remember getting your wisdom teeth? they can hurt before they are close to the surface.<br><br>
I am surpirsed Tylenol didn't help any tho. Try Hylands homepathic teething tablets? Offer a cold or frozen wet washcloth? Pump your milk and chill it and offer in a cup or spoon, or freeze it into popsicles. Do not let yourself get engorged.<br><br>
But you say this has happened before? Do some detective work. Could it be digestive upset from a reaction to a food you eat (assuming you are bfing), esp if you binge on dairy products?<br><br>
Of course, I am not ruling out vax related problems. Hope it is not that. Is the shot site swollen? I am sure the moms on that board will have ideas. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Oh, I see I just posted with you.<br><br>
Glad you made the solids connection. As she is only 6 mos, yes, stop the solids and see what happens. Wait a month, or longer, proceed with caution! Rice cereal and bananas can be constipating. Are there allergies in your family?<br><br>
I hope that everything returns to normal!
 

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Just curious, what solids have you given him? My DS is fussy, too, and I've recently introduced solids -- just bananas, rice, and carrots, and so far bananas seem to be a no go. I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should put off solids, too.
 

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Now that I have a quick second I wanted to answer your question Pookietooth; I have tried every food you have plus apple sauce, squash and sweet potato. I started her on the solids at 5 months when she showed a strong interest and all of the readiness signs, I am now regreting jumping the gun. She has been like a new baby since I pulled her off the solids. More proof came yesterday when she had a normal exclusively breast fed baby poop with a long string of slime in the center. I ask you, what in the world would cause that!?!? I feel so quilty for waiting so long to withdraw the solids. I never did pin down what caused the reaction but I strongly suspect it was the teething bisquit. If nothing else her crankiness was prportionate to how much solids she had eaten so I think she was just not ready period. I am planning on waiting until the end of this month to try again and I will see if she takes the solids a bit better at 7 months old.<br><br>
I hope this helps with figuring out what is going on with your little guy and I hope he feels better soon.<br><br>
MM
 
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