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And she still needed NICU.<br><br>
(cross post from my DDC)<br><br>
Hello everyone!<br><br>
So, I never got my vbac...After being admitted to the hospital after going into labor on my own one day past my EDD, I dialated to 5 after an hour, but my labor stalled and would not progress. (I tried everything, I swear!) My doctor threatend me with pit (I agreed to doing pit) but then said I "must" have an epi, and I "must" have IFM. I finally broke and said "just do the section". Afterall why put my baby through pit and IFM when she could just meet me now? After a long section, she was born. My little girl was born 8lbs 1 ounce, a big difference from my 27 weeker! But ironically as it is, my little girl was put directly into the NICU. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> How is it possible that I could have a baby sooo frail and tiny, and one big full term baby, and both needing NICU??? Seriously, what are the odds? It's so heartbreaking for this to happen again, for two totally different reasons. I am NEVER getting pregnant again, not because I don't love having babies, but because I can't see myself going through this again.<br><br>
"Scarlette Belle" has been diagnosed with contaneous melanosis (sp?) which is births marks<br>
and moles all over her body (one on her skull covering it more than 50%)<br>
that were once thought to be connected to nervous tissue. After lots of CT scans and an MRI, she's clear. But unfortunately she had an apnea episode which meant the earliest she could come home was Tuesday. And after fighting with the neonatologist...we walked out of that horrible place for the last time at 11:30 am on the 15th. The day my first daughter was born one year ago. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
These birthmarks however are so severe that a plastic surgeon was consulted, saying we needed to start removing these at 10 weeks of age. (Not on my life!) We went to our Family doc and he is getting us a consultation with a pediatric plastic surgeon at U of M. But they still aren't cutting my baby so young no matter what! What's funny though is, we were all told by doctors at the NICU that these could turn into cancer, ect, HOWEVER the plastic surgeon faxed over paperwork on Scarlette, and his consultation stated that it was to be an ELECTIVE surgery. Bull Pucky.<br><br>
Breastfeeding is something else. I never got a chance to with<br>
my preemie. I can't believe how hard it is, and how worthwhile it makes<br>
you feel. Scarlette hasn't once had a bottle, and only once had a paci<br>
because DH forgot the sign for the bassonet. The trip from my room on level 3 to babys bedside on 5 was a little hard after a c/s to feed on demand, but I am so greatful I was able to do so. If I<br>
can't grow babies very well, I'm out to make it my priority to be able<br>
to grow em on the outside! I am taking reglan right now and using an<br>
SNS to get Scarlette some food (even if it is formula) as I am not producing hardly a thing, just a few ML's when I pump. (which is in between when baby eats on demand) Any suggestions to get my milk supply in and going well? The good thing is she sure has a good latch! And does it help that I am leeking through my shirt? But why can't I pump only few ML's? I am happy though to know she is nursing, even though she isn't getting much from me, we still are gaining that special bond.<br><br>
And yet while I am so miserable right now because I feel like I can't<br>
ever have a perfectly healthy baby so many women (very mainstream women at that) I see get to hold after birth and leave to go home with after being discharged, I feel even more terrible because while we were in NICU, three babies in Scarlettes room passed away. You<br>
know I just don't understand how this can happen to so many babies and<br>
the parents did everything right, with nothing that you'd think would<br>
make an early baby. Life just isn't fair...So if you could spare a few<br>
prayers for the babies and their families in the green room at Sparrow<br>
tonight, I'm sure it would all be appreciated.<br><br>
Thanks mamas for letting me vent, and if you have any help for me on<br>
breastfeeding (or actually, inducing lactation) please don't hesitate to post!<br><br>
With love,<br>
Beth
 

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Hi,<br><br>
Sometimes the cesarean surgery delays the milk supply some. You can take Mother's Milk tea (try a whole foods or health food store) or the same in tincture form. Either 3 cups a day of tea or three full droppers of tincture a day. The type of pump makes a HUGE difference. I would suggest that if you are not already doing so, rent a Medela Symphony pump. It is new and has a very different suctioning pattern that mimics a baby. I took the Ameda the hosp. rented me and I was really having trouble with supply even though I had nursed twins and a singleton for over five years. I didn't have a cesarean either. When I switched to the Symphony it really helped a lot. If you are using a baby store bought model, they do not have standardized regulations and many of them we in the biz call "toy pumps" cause they just suck and not in a good way. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
The fact that you are leaking is great. More than the amount in the pump look for signs baby is getting enough. Adequate weight gain, 5-7 wet diapers a day, moist eyes and mouth, pinch up skin on back of babies hand and if it goes right back to shape when you release that implies good hydration, watch the soft spot and if its dipped down below the skull bones before a feed and pops up level with them after that is another good sign.<br><br>
Its not so surprising a good sized baby born by cesarean went to NICU. The lack of vaginal squeeze to prep the lungs often means they need a short stay in the NICU. Trouble with NICU is that once they have your baby they can find more and more reasons to want to keep them.<br><br>
Good wishes on the nursing and keep posting if you need help.<br><br>
Lorrie
 

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I'm so sorry you had to go through this again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Are you determining low supply by how much you pump or by how much she's getting? Breasts don't respond nearly as well to a pump. It takes me 2 days to pump enough for ONE FEEDING of my 6 month old, yet I have no problem feeding him all day. If you're leaking, it sounds like you have milk, so that's good! Maybe you could do the weigh-feed-weigh thing to see how much she's taking in when she nurses?<br><br>
Also, how old is your baby now? My milk didn't come in until day 5 with both babies. What you're describing sounds like maybe your milk is just coming in, but it wasn't clear in your post what day she was actually born.<br><br>
Breastfeeding can be very difficult in the beginning (it was for me both times, for different reasons), but hopefully it will get better for you. Are you in contact with an LLL leader or an LC?
 

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Sounds like you may have my ability with a pump. I could hardly ever get ANYTHING with a pump. Even now I can't pump a full feeding, but I have no trouble feeding Adara all day (and all night) long.<br><br>
There was one NICU nurse who was the most supportive with that issue...she told me to stop measuring and look at my baby. Was she comfortable? Sleeping easily between feedings? Or was she still hungry and not sleeping well?<br><br>
If your little one is resting well between feedings then maybe you should trust that rather than your pump.<br><br>
Course if you are having supply issues, Mother's Milk can be helpful, warm water (always helped me, like after a shower, I could pump really well!), and definately keep up nursing "from the tap." Nothing helped me better than getting her to latch!<br><br>
Best of luck. I'm sorry you had to see the NICU again.
 

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I'm so glad that your baby came safely and so sorry that you ended up with another section and back in the NICU. I hope things are going better for you with Scarlett and you're finally home with her having your babymoom. I'll second/third the difficulty pumping much, even with the NICU's pump, but having no problem nursing a baby. If she seems to be getting enough to eat while nursing you may want to cut back on the pumping so that you don't end up with over supply issues. Good luck you and your family, I'll be keep you all in my prayers.
 

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I am so glad you are able to breastfeed...Being in a NICU can really put things into perspective when you get to hold your breathing baby...when I was in the nicu some parents couldn't even touch their baby so as to not stimulate them because they would 'fall apart'.<br><br>
You can try massaging your breasts while pumping, even just little fingertip massages like what a baby might do. also, try pumping for 5 then stopping for 15 min or so, massage and pump again. I use to put hot compresses on my breasts while pumping, that helped. So did talking about good stuff on the phone to a friend...i think it made me forget i was pumping.
 

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Congratulations on the birth of your new baby girl!<br><br>
I hear you on the pumping. I used a Medela Symphony pump at the hospital but I didn't produce anything at all. Not a drop. I think it took over 5 days for my milk to come in and even then it wasn't that much. I didn't leak like you have and that sounds to me like a great sign you're producing more milk than you realize. Is there a Lactation Consultant at the hospital or a La Leche League nearby? Unfortunately my breastfeeding experience is limited to pumping as my daughter never really warmed up to feeding at the breast. *sigh*<br><br>
Best of luck to you and Scarlette. I hope she comes home from the NICU very soon.
 
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