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<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/05/17/mandatory.physical.education.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/05....ap/index.html</a><br><br>
"Elementary school students must have at least a half-hour of physical education each day under a bill signed Thursday by health-conscious Gov. Charlie Crist.<br><br>
Crist and state lawmakers say the requirement, which takes effect with the new school year in August, can help prevent childhood obesity and related health problems. A state task force found in 2003 that millions of schoolchildren were at risk for juvenile diabetes and other ailments because of poor exercise and nutrition habits.<br><br>
Crist said students will benefit academically by being in better health, and the former high school quarterback recalled that his own grades improved during football season.<br><br>
"Having a good quality of life and good cross-section of education that addresses the mind, the body and the soul is very important. With the P.E. bill, we get to that," he said."...<br><br>
I think this is a great start... even though I hated PE. (Klutzy at that age. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">) I'd like to see them require art, music, and foreign language as well.
 

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Sounds like a good start!
 

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I hate mandatory PE. I came very close to not graduating because of it. I also don't think it does squat to address issues about health and obesity. There are people like me, who hate it, and don't participate if they/we can avoid it...no benefit there. Actually, phys ed almost turned me off of all physical activity for life - the horrible classes totally overshadowed the fact that I could walk, bike, hike, swim, do aerobics, do yoga, lift weights, etc. on my own, in my own time. There are the jocks, many of whom I've seen graduate and balloon up to a bizarre extent, because as soon as PE and organized teams are out of their lives, so is most physical activity.<br><br>
PE is a bandaid, and not a very effective one. It doesn't teach anybody <i>anything</i> about being active in their day-to-day lives.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate mandatory PE. I came very close to not graduating because of it. I also don't think it does squat to address issues about health and obesity. There are people like me, who hate it, and don't participate if they/we can avoid it...no benefit there. Actually, phys ed almost turned me off of all physical activity for life - the horrible classes totally overshadowed the fact that I could walk, bike, hike, swim, do aerobics, do yoga, lift weights, etc. on my own, in my own time. There are the jocks, many of whom I've seen graduate and balloon up to a bizarre extent, because as soon as PE and organized teams are out of their lives, so is most physical activity.<br><br>
PE is a bandaid, and not a very effective one. It doesn't teach anybody <i>anything</i> about being active in their day-to-day lives.</div>
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I agree with a lot that you've posted... but I think PE is changing to be more lifestyle based. Kids do aerobics, walk with pedometers, lift weights, etc. My school required three seasons of sports every year, and one year I petitioned to be able to take an hour of aerobics and do 30 minutes of weight lifting 5x/week instead. They denied it. Now the same school offers that as a normal option. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate mandatory PE. I came very close to not graduating because of it. I also don't think it does squat to address issues about health and obesity. There are people like me, who hate it, and don't participate if they/we can avoid it...no benefit there. Actually, phys ed almost turned me off of all physical activity for life - the horrible classes totally overshadowed the fact that I could walk, bike, hike, swim, do aerobics, do yoga, lift weights, etc. on my own, in my own time. There are the jocks, many of whom I've seen graduate and balloon up to a bizarre extent, because as soon as PE and organized teams are out of their lives, so is most physical activity.<br><br>
PE is a bandaid, and not a very effective one. It doesn't teach anybody <i>anything</i> about being active in their day-to-day lives.</div>
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I agree with most everything you posted.<br><br>
Personally I would like to see the kids have more playground time. Fresh air, running wild, laughing and screaming their head off is all they need.<br><br>
Just this week I had written a note to our grandson's school supervisor. The kids got rewarded for something... but guess what the reward was? A movie and pizza. My grandson was not happy. He would have much rather run outside in the fresh air on the playground and would have been glad to forgo the pizza.<br><br>
Things are so screwed up.<br><br>
The principal replied that the movie was 'educational'. Like that makes a difference.<br><br>
IMO, the movie was unnecessary and the pizza was garbage. But it was easier for them.
 

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Well, yeah, PE isn't perfect. I hated it and did EVERYTHING possible to get out of it in school. I was the outcast who noone ever wanted on their team and never had a partner. But even if it's something simple, like, walk around outside for 30 minutes, I think that's an improvement over what they have now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate mandatory PE. I came very close to not graduating because of it. I also don't think it does squat to address issues about health and obesity. There are people like me, who hate it, and don't participate if they/we can avoid it...no benefit there. Actually, phys ed almost turned me off of all physical activity for life - the horrible classes totally overshadowed the fact that I could walk, bike, hike, swim, do aerobics, do yoga, lift weights, etc. on my own, in my own time. There are the jocks, many of whom I've seen graduate and balloon up to a bizarre extent, because as soon as PE and organized teams are out of their lives, so is most physical activity.<br><br>
PE is a bandaid, and not a very effective one. It doesn't teach anybody <i>anything</i> about being active in their day-to-day lives.</div>
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I felt the same in school but PE nowadays is nothing like it used to be. My daughter gets to run around the playground, do monkeybars and so on.
 

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I think the kids need the exercise but I don't know if they should be forced to play group sports. That was always TORTURE for me as a kid. I stunk at volleyball, softball, etc. It wasn't until college that I was ready to try group sports again and found that I loved soccer and football!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I hate mandatory PE. I came very close to not graduating because of it. I also don't think it does squat to address issues about health and obesity. There are people like me, who hate it, and don't participate if they/we can avoid it...no benefit there. Actually, phys ed almost turned me off of all physical activity for life - the horrible classes totally overshadowed the fact that I could walk, bike, hike, swim, do aerobics, do yoga, lift weights, etc. on my own, in my own time. There are the jocks, many of whom I've seen graduate and balloon up to a bizarre extent, because as soon as PE and organized teams are out of their lives, so is most physical activity.<br><br>
PE is a bandaid, and not a very effective one. It doesn't teach anybody <i>anything</i> about being active in their day-to-day lives.</div>
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So because it wasn't beneficial for you, and the WAY it's taught in some cases isn't that great is a reason to be against all PE?<br><br>
I think it should be credit/nocredit and not count with your GPA, but I've got a whole new respect after the class I'm taking. Turns out movement in your muscles releases a hormone that crosses the blood/brain barrier and creates more neurotransmitters ("like miracle grow for your brain"). And that despite the stereotypes, studies show the kids who are more physically fit overall do better academically.<br><br>
And all sorts of other interesting facts. Try reading the short and practical book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLearning-Body-Mind-Eric-Jensen%2Fdp%2F1890460079%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_10%2F002-9589767-4977600%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1179646574%26sr%3D8-10" target="_blank">"Learning with the Body in Mind"</a> by Eric Jensen. Fascinating stuff.
 

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Curious - how much PE there is normally in schools/week?<br><br>
What about length of studying periods?<br><br>
How many recess/day? How long are schooldays?
 

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I'm homeschooling dd1 after her year in FL kindergarten...recess only about 10 minutes, once a day, PE only three days a week, very little unstructured play time...and that was KINDERGARTEN!!!<br><br>
The only thing I worry about, is what will they give up? Currently they have a slot for "specials" which has art, music, PEx3, so will they lose art and music (which I think should be daily as well!)<br><br>
Ah...public school. I really liked a lot of things about the school, but the structure sucked.
 

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I don't know anybody from my grad class (class of '86) who got any kind of lasting benefit from PE. I do know that the three people in my class who have gained the most weight - certainly over 50 pounds - are all former jocks. They got out of school, and physical activity didn't fit into their lives, anymore...the slot it fit into was gone.<br><br>
If I ever saw PE taught in any other way, I might change my mind. I haven't. DS1 is in 8th grade at the same high school I went to, and he's doing the same stuff...group sports and running and a few weeks of gymnastics (which ds1 actually loves - but it's not like he can take it home). It may not be like that everywhere (several posts in this thread suggest that it's changing), but it's definitely still like that in a lot of places.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I don't doubt any of that. I know my brain works better when I'm more fit. What does that have to do with PE?
 

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Playing and being out is essential to kids. Not only because of the weight issues but because playing is the best teacher for a child. And kids have so much energy they need to be able to roam around!<br><br>
Here daycare last until children turn 7 and go to school. At daycares children are out at least 2 hours a day. In good weather kids are out 3-4 hours a day. Every daycare has to have big playgrounds and daycares are always situated so that nature is near so kids can do trips to the nature.<br><br>
When school starts, for the first couple of years schooldays are 4-5 hours long. After every 45 minutes there is a 15 minutes recess. Lunch hour is 30 minutes. Lunches are provided by the school - healthy food. No candy,chips,sodas etc. are allowed. There is about 2-3 hours PE every week. Kids too fun things and can have a say what they want to do. All kids must learn to swim,ride a bike,ski and skate.<br><br>
After that schooldays get longer 5-6 hours/day and in highschool level schoolday can be 7 hours/day. But even at highschool level the recess scedule&lunch hour system&2 hours PE stays the same.<br><br>
At highschool level kids learn dancing,go to horseback riding,orienteering etc. Teenagers can often be slugs <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> so PE is attempted to make fun and students can make wishes what they want to do.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Playing and being out is essential to kids. Not only because of the weight issues but because playing is the best teacher for a child. And kids have so much energy they need to be able to roam around!<br><br>
Here daycare last until children turn 7 and go to school. At daycares children are out at least 2 hours a day. In good weather kids are out 3-4 hours a day. Every daycare has to have big playgrounds and daycares are always situated so that nature is near so kids can do trips to the nature.<br><br>
When school starts, for the first couple of years schooldays are 4-5 hours long. After every 45 minutes there is a 15 minutes recess. Lunch hour is 30 minutes. Lunches are provided by the school - healthy food. No candy,chips,sodas etc. are allowed. There is about 2-3 hours PE every week. Kids too fun things and can have a say what they want to do. All kids must learn to swim,ride a bike,ski and skate.<br><br>
After that schooldays get longer 5-6 hours/day and in highschool level schoolday can be 7 hours/day. But even at highschool level the recess scedule&lunch hour system&2 hours PE stays the same.<br><br>
At highschool level kids learn dancing,go to horseback riding,orienteering etc. Teenagers can often be slugs <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> so PE is attempted to make fun and students can make wishes what they want to do.</div>
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Wow! I want to move to Finland <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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