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Hello Ladies,<br><br>
Has anyone any opinions to offer about why one should not get the nasal version of the flu shot? Yes, it is a live virus (and thus it actually carries risks of infection) but apprently it actually does something in terms of immunity... It is mercury and preservative free. It is only approved for kids over 5 and healthy adults.<br><br>
I am a nursing mom to a 2 month old and I worry about getting him sick if I choose to have Flu Mist, but then I also worry about the possibility of a pandemic in which the young ones are the most vulnerable.<br><br>
There have also been studies that Flu Mist might offer cross-protection against a pandemic strain of the flu. Apparently, in mice, it offers complete protection against the deadly avian flu virus affecting birds all over the globe (H5N1).<br><br>
Thank you in advance for your responses.
 

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Complete protection against Avian flu affecting birds all over the globe? I don't know about <i>that</i> one.<br><br>
I'll get the package insert and post it for you so at least you can get some more information on the vaccine's ingredients and if there's information about breastfeeding.
 

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FluMist package insert for 2005/2006 influenza season:<br><a href="http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/inflmed080505LB.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/inflmed080505LB.pdf</a><br><br><b>Nursing Mothers</b><br>
It is not known whether FluMist is excreted in human milk. Therefore, as some viruses are excreted in human milk and additionally, because of the possibility of shedding of vaccine virus and the close proximity of a nursing infant and mother, caution should be exercised if FluMist is administered to nursing mothers.
 

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It sounds like you're a bit afraid of contracting the flu, especially with a baby. Vaccines are not your only source of protection. Your body has a fantastic immune system that you can bolster and strengthen to protect yourself and baby from serious influenza infection. I urge you to gather herbs and teas for acute illness and for boosting immune function. A minnesota company, Wellness Resources, has a wonderful, natural, immune system boosting supplement program. We use the super antioxidant supplement called daily protector, among other things. It really helps when any illness rears its ugly head. The last time my DH was sick I made him take 9-11 per day and filled him with trace minerals, good nutrition and used essential oils on him. He was better in 48 hours and back to his dirty habits (smoking) stating that he can't believe how fast he feels better when he takes what I give him. Make sure you have oscillocosicum (sp?) on hand. It's a homeopathic remedy for flu. Make sure you have echinacea and goldenseal tinctures on hand, one is antiviral and the other is antibacterial. Teas made from thyme or oregano are very antimicrobial. Oregano is great in soup.<br><br>
On flumist: the package insert does not list the H5N1 as a strain included. Virus' were grown on chick kidneys and in eggs.<br>
Flumist was tested on 20,228 people. When the children and adults were in the testing process, (which took place over two flu seasons) the first strain of flu included in the vaccine, new caldonia H1N1 was not in circulation, so there is no data on the efficacy of the vaccine against this strain.<br>
I urge you to read the contraindications section. Note that the vaccine should not be given to anyone with immune deficiency disease or if one is taking immunosuppressant drugs like corticosteroids. This is important for kids with allergies or asthma. Many are on steroids from a very young age and according to the manufacturer, vax should not be administered to anyone with a history of asthma. Do you really think the DR is going to follow that advice? Usually a diagnosis of asthma is cause to push the flu vaccine.<br>
That's my $0.02. Do read the package insert carefully.
 

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All I can say is that when I was working on Dracula a couple years ago - right about this time of year - two of my cast members got FluMist...and the entire cast and crew ended up ill by the end of the performance run. It does transmit from people who have had the FluMist to people who have not, and pretty dang fast. I wouldn't get it, because I saw how sick it made the people I did know who got it. Especially if you are the least bit run down.
 

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Thank you all for your responses.<br><br>
Reading the insert was really informative and interesting. It seems at least there are not any really evil compounds in it... other than the viruses. According the the study done on preschoolers, even though after vaccination they shed the virus, there were not any serious illnesses reported in the unvaxed preschoolers that went to the same daucare.<br><br>
So, if I nurse and I get this vaccine, would I not pass antibodies to the baby and thus protect the baby from getting a full-blown flu? This is all hypothetical, as I am probably not going to get it.<br><br>
As for being afraid of getting the flu, I had the flu three years in a row. I teach college and I am in regular contact with about 100 students each term, and there are sick ones in every of my classes and they do come to office hours and turn infected papers in.<br><br>
It is not fun getting the flu... Even with being generally healthy, in good physical shape, and downing down Sambucol, echinacea, garlic, vitamin C, etc. I still lost a week in bed each time... and two years ago I thought I was going to die when the flu attacked and inflamed all my muscles. It was truly evil, and incredibly painful. I was literally in tears, and I have a very high tolerance for pain.<br><br>
Apparently, flu season has started in the Philly area and there are reports of hospitalizations. It turns out one the strains this year targets healthy kids and adults, and the healthier you are, the sicker you can get when your immune system goes into overdrive. It is especailyl true in people who have never had type A influenza.<br><br>
Interestingly enough, during the most terrible pandemic in 1918-1919, healthy young people died fastest and by the largest numbers when their immune systems went into overdrive....<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
Thanks again!
 

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The nursing mother statement in the insert would seal it for me <b>not</b> to get this vaccine. Here's something else I found from John Hopkins:<br><br><a href="http://www.epitool.com/infectious_diseases/influenza/FluMistFacts.htm" target="_blank">http://www.epitool.com/infectious_di...uMistFacts.htm</a><br><br>
Take note about what it says regarding nursing mothers.
 
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