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I almost got away without a flu shot! The company I work for gives it free to their employees but they wouldn't give it to me because I was pregnant.<br>
Pretty cautious of them, right?<br>
Then I had my OB/GYN appointment and they gave me a flu shot there.<br>
I guess I was about 3 months pregnant at that time. Do you think enough of the t was filtered out by my body to where it didn't have a negative impact on the baby? What do you know about effects of vaccines in pregnancy?
 

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I had one during each of my pregnancies before I even knew to be concerned about it...but my kids are now 5 and almost 2 and thus far they are happy and healthy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I almost got away without a flu shot! The company I work for gives it free to their employees but they wouldn't give it to me because I was pregnant.<br>
Pretty cautious of them, right?<br>
Then I had my OB/GYN appointment and they gave me a flu shot there.<br>
I guess I was about 3 months pregnant at that time. Do you think enough of the t was filtered out by my body to where it didn't have a negative impact on the baby? What do you know about effects of vaccines in pregnancy?</div>
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FluMist was probably adminstered at your job - that's why they wouldn't give it to you.<br><br>
You should first ask your OB/GYN's office which formulation you were given. Ask them the manufacture, brand and if they gave the shot from a multi-dose or single dose formulation. This will be how you can tell if you received 25 micrograms of thimerosal.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I almost got away without a flu shot! The company I work for gives it free to their employees but they wouldn't give it to me because I was pregnant.<br>
Pretty cautious of them, right?<br>
Then I had my OB/GYN appointment and they gave me a flu shot there.<br>
I guess I was about 3 months pregnant at that time. Do you think enough of the t was filtered out by my body to where it didn't have a negative impact on the baby? What do you know about effects of vaccines in pregnancy?</div>
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I hope this doesn't come across as snarky, because I don't intend it that way... but your post reads like you are totally disconnected from and have no power over your own body. Unfortunately, it seems most people do feel that way when it comes to medical decisions... letting the "professionals" have their way and make all decisions. I'm sorry, I guess this is ot. Just thinking out loud.
 

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Not at all.<br>
I didn't know that there could be any dangers back then. In fact since then I have learned a lot and made decisions accordingly. For example I no longer see the OB/GYN but have midwives now and am looking forward to a homebirth, etc.<br>
I would say I only read more on vaccinations over the last 2-3 months or so.<br>
I do see that the way I phrased it makes it sound pretty bad.<br>
What I really meant was that considering I had no information about the dangers of vaccines I almost got 'lucky' and didn't have one because of my company's policy. Does that make more sense?<br>
Starting out though (this is my first pregnancy) it seemed to make sense to me to get one if the OB suggested it... KWIM?<br><br>
So what do you think about the risk? Anybody have any studies or links about flu shots during pregnancy and their effect on the unborn?
 

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You know that would be interesting. And actually your OB/GYN should have such a study on hand since he evidently administers flu vaccines to pregnant women quite freely.<br><br>
I would call and ask for it. I would tell him you are worried and would like to see the study that suggests that unborn infants are not affected by their mothers getting the flu vaccine.
 

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This information is directly from the Fluzone package insert:<br><br><br><b>PREGNANCY CATEGORY "C"</b><br>
Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza Virus Vaccine. It is not known whether Influenza Virus Vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b>Influenza Virus Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed</b></span>. For guidance regarding use in pregnant women, see INDICATIONS AND USAGE section.<br><br><br><b>Category C</b>: Either studies in animals have revealed adverse effects on the fetus (teratogenic or embryocidal or other) and there are no controlled studies in women or studies in women and animals are not available. Drugs should be given only if the potential benefit justifies the potential risk to the fetus.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not at all.<br>
I didn't know that there could be any dangers back then. In fact since then I have learned a lot and made decisions accordingly. For example I no longer see the OB/GYN but have midwives now and am looking forward to a homebirth, etc.<br>
I would say I only read more on vaccinations over the last 2-3 months or so.<br>
I do see that the way I phrased it makes it sound pretty bad.<br>
What I really meant was that considering I had no information about the dangers of vaccines I almost got 'lucky' and didn't have one because of my company's policy. Does that make more sense?<br>
Starting out though (this is my first pregnancy) it seemed to make sense to me to get one if the OB suggested it... KWIM?<br><br>
So what do you think about the risk? Anybody have any studies or links about flu shots during pregnancy and their effect on the unborn?</div>
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I see what you mean, and I'm glad you weren't offended by my post.
 

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Well ****! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I am sure it had thimerasol. Don't they all? Ironic part is that after the clinic at work declined I was sort of on the fence about it -even without knowing anything about thimerasol- but my OB was pregnant at the same time and got it herself...<br>
I looked on the calender. I was about 17 weeks pregnant when I got the flu shot. Have since read that it's even worse if you get it before week 16...
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Try not to beat yourself up or worry too much about the shot. You can't change it now, but you sound like you're going to be ready to make informed decisions in the future.<br>
Congrats on the coming little one!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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While some docs recommend pg women getting the flu shot, I declined it. I was scheduled to receive one at work, but my DH (he's a microbiologist/immunologist) had some real concerns about purposely inducing any kind of immune response early in pregnancy. Given my two unexplained 1st trimester losses in the last 2 years, I thought it was best to play it safe and agreed.
 

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KBinSATX, I did the same thing... I hadn't done research on vaccines yet, and I accepted the recommendation to get a flu shot after the end of my first trimester. My mom and sister who both work in Public Health really encouraged me (in fact my mother was so worried that I might not get it that she was a pest <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: ), and my sister sent me a CDC fact sheet about how safe and what a good idea it is. I don't plan to get a flu shot next time around, though, based on what I know now. I also had a dental filling, which frustrates me to no end - I don't know what kind it is (and it wouldn't really change things to find out, would it?) and there's nothing I can do about it now but hope that it doesn't hurt the babe. I just find it so disturbing that you can't necessarily trust people who are professionals to be up on the latest information that is RELEVANT to their field!! This has been an amazing learning process.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I agree, no point in stressing about it now, what's done is done. When you know better you do better. I would definitely not vax your babe and I would read up on early signs of autism spectrum issues and how to respond.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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I'm floored that anyone would administer thimerosal to a pregnant woman, although from what I've come to find out, there's probably every reason to think that's exactly what happened.
 

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Well ****! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
I am sure it had thimerasol. Don't they all? Ironic part is that after the clinic at work declined I was sort of on the fence about it -even without knowing anything about thimerasol- but my OB was pregnant at the same time and got it herself...<br>
I looked on the calender. I was about 17 weeks pregnant when I got the flu shot. Have since read that it's even worse if you get it before week 16...</td>
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Try not to beat yourself up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
I had a tb test done when I was about 12 weeks pg with ds, where they shoot it into your arm and that bump comes up? Of course, weeks later, I realized no way should I have let them do that.<br><br>
FWIW, I worried myself into a frenzy, which was totally not productive.<br>
You know for next time, and really, that's all any of us have. Knowledge to do things differently, when we can.<br><br>
I know it's hard, but please, don't stress about this. It's pointless and keeps you from sleeping. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
Oh, and also, I had to go get checked out by a mainstream doctor this time during week 11. He told me it was fine to get the flu shot as long as I was past 13 weeks.<br><br>
I asked him what changes between 12w6d and 13w1d to make it all right, and he mumbled gobbledy **** and left.<br><br>
But, FWIW, the scare tactics he used to try to get me to have the shot were really slick. It's hard to say no, it really is.
 

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Slightly Off Topic, but helps to demonstrate how a parent could "not know" about the dangers of flu shots and other, when the med. community doesn't provide any reasonable info.<br><br>
I brought up the question of thimerosal in flu shots at my first pregnancy apt. and the nurse didn't even know that thimerosal=mercury nor that it was in any vaccine let alone the flu shot.<br><br>
Then she still said if it came time for flu shots and I was still pregnant they would want me to get it.<br><br>
Then I asked, "But you just got done telling us about the dangers of mercury in fish, which would at least be less absorbed by going through the digestive tract instead of being injected straight into the bloodstream! What makes you think it is safe"<br><br>
And she replied, "I'm sure it is a small enough amount that it wouldn't affect you"<br><br>
Arghhhh. How can she be so sure if she didn't even know it was there? I rolled my eyes but gave up after that. The other parents were looking uncomfortable and just wanted to get the apt. over with so they could go home. Now I wish I had a better memory for numbers and could have quoted some of the info off the flu vacc threads.<br><br><br><br>
I know what it is like to regret vaccines. My DS had his two month shots before I was educated enough to convince DH and myself it was better to wait until I knew more. Now I know more, and I regret those early ones.<br><br><br>
I wonder why so many companies are willing to coerce their employees into the flu shot? It can't possibly improve productivity or missed days. What is in it for them? Has anyone gone into this on another thread? I know ped's (esp in the UK) recieve money for shots, but the employers? All they get is sick employees. Are they that dumb?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm floored that anyone would administer thimerosal to a pregnant woman, although from what I've come to find out, there's probably every reason to think that's exactly what happened.</div>
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beyond the flu shot, Rhogam used to have thimerosal in it and that was given to <b>every</b> RH neg pregnant woman -- in fact, they've found that many, many of the women who have autistic kids are Rh neg - scary!<br><br>
Sadly, my dd bore the brunt of my ignorance -- I had Rhogam while pregnant AND a flu shot (although the Rhogam was probably thim free) and vaxes through 6 months. At least we didn't give her Hep B when she was 10 days old yet still premature like the NICU docs wanted to -- I find that appalling!<br><br>
I wised up with ds and passed on the flu shot, passed on the Rhogam, and passed on all vaxes -- he's now 11 months and healthy as can be. My OB stated when we were discussing how I was not going to have the 28-week prophylactic Rhogam shot, "now, you're not buying into all that media hype about autism are you? The media just makes my job harder." I said no... and explained many other reasons for skipping the Rhogam shot.
 

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This is just anecdotal of course but I was forced to have the flu shot when I was pregnant (I was active duty military so I trully was forced unless I wanted to be discharged btw). I knew nothing of vaxes at the time but I just felt like it was a bad idea. Anyhow ds seems just fine. He's almost 2 now, no signs of autism, delays, or anything like that. What's done is done....now just educate yourself so it doesn't happen again. You can't change the past but you can change the future, kwim?
 
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