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In a year or so I am thinking of flying with a 5 y.o., a 3.5 y.o. and a 1 y.o. How does it work with car seats? I know it's safer to have the 1 y.o. in a car seat but what about the others? Do people take 3 car seats and 3 kids on a plane? I am starting to think the trip isn't possible, or would only be possible if I were willing to cut corners on safety (I'm not). TIA for any thoughts on this.
 

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I guess I cut corners on safety. We fly constantly and I have never once used a car seat on a plane.<br><br>
Is it in case of turbulence? Would you let them get up and walk around still when the seatbelt light is off?<br><br>
are there really statistics or anything that says kids are safer in carseats on a plane?<br><br>
not being snotty, but ive never even thought to use it.<br><br>
now im intrigued, must find out...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I guess I cut corners on safety. We fly constantly and I have never once used a car seat on a plane.<br><br>
Is it in case of turbulence? Would you let them get up and walk around still when the seatbelt light is off?<br><br>
are there really statistics or anything that says kids are safer in carseats on a plane?<br><br>
not being snotty, but ive never even thought to use it.<br><br>
now im intrigued, must find out...</div>
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I'm not sure...I just know my sister flies her 3 y.o. in a car seat and that infants must be in laps or in a car seat (not on seat with regular seat belt). I was wondering how old the child has to be before a car seat isn't necessary. I'd let them walk around -- ot really concerned about that--more concerned about crashes, turbulence, etc. I guess crashes are much less likely than in a car though. I'm off to try to dig up info too, thanks.
 

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i just looked around a bit... seems that its recommended for kids under 40 pounds, but not required.<br><br>
i find it interesting. everything i read says, "most plane crashes are survivable... but it doesnt say whether they have really studied plane crashes to see if car seated kids are surviving more than UNcar seated, etc. I guess i feel that if i was in a crash, i would want my kids restrained in a way that way quick release. Imagine having to undo a 5 point harness in shock, full of adrenaline in 30 seconds.<br><br>
I dunno, i get how people get to the point if equating it to car travel. but almost every flight i have ever been has had turbulence.... and knew it was coming WELL in advance. You are never really given notice in a car crash. they are so unexpexted, and you are so much more exposed and vulnerable in a car. Rarely is a plane in danger of being sideswiped by another plane, and if it is, are we really gonna survive anyway?<br><br>
I have flown through some nasty midwest storms and such and once had the plane drop- if we hadnt have had warning it would have been scarier, but i was buckled, had dd1 in the sling and held her tight.<br><br>
to be honest, i would have felt less safe with her in a car seat with me being unable to shield her with my body.<br><br>
wasnt there a plane crash where a baby survived ONLY bc her mamas body shielded her?<br><br>
I thought i read that... couldve been a movie.<br><br>
im just typing randomly at this point. ill stop now.
 

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Interesting thought on the release.<br><br>
Here's what I found from the FAA website <a href="http://www.faa.gov/passengers/fly_children/crs/" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/passengers/fly_children/crs/</a><br><br>
"Always follow the manufacturer's instructions when using a CRS. FAA recommends that a child weighing:<br><br>
* Less than 20 pounds use a rear-facing CRS<br>
* From 20 to 40 pounds use a forward-facing CRS<br>
* More than 40 pounds use an airplane seat belt<br>
* A child may also use an alternative, such as a a harness-type restraint, if it is approved by FAA. FAA has approved one restraint appropriate for children weighing between 22 and 44 pounds. This type of restraint is not safe for use in motor vehicles."<br><br>
Still not sure what I'd do though...it all seems much less scientific than the car seat car crash studies.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Is it in case of turbulence? Would you let them get up and walk around still when the seatbelt light is off?<br><br>
are there really statistics or anything that says kids are safer in carseats on a plane?</div>
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It's mostly for take-off and landing that you want them restrained. These are the critical phases of flight when an accident/incident is most likely to happen. Due to the high rate of speed, it becomes virtually impossible to keep a child in your arms - no matter how securely you're holding them. The planes I work on generally land at speeds approaching 200mph. Imagine your unrestrained child in a car at that speed...and then factor in the notion of it making a controlled impact with the ground. Scary. The chance of something happening is exceedingly low. But if it were to happen, the chance of it being fatal for a lap child is extremely high.<br><br>
Kids are safest in car seats on planes. The FAA knows it, but they still refuse to change the regulation for what are essentially political reasons. Their copout is that more families would drive if they had to purchase tickets for kids, and that accidents are more likely to occur in cars. Ergo, a lapchild is at less risk. Statistically true, but that is little consolation for a mom who blames herself for 'letting go' of her child in a high speed event on the plane. Sadly, most parents just assume it must be safe if it isn't required.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I dunno, i get how people get to the point if equating it to car travel. but almost every flight i have ever been has had turbulence.... and knew it was coming WELL in advance. You are never really given notice in a car crash. they are so unexpexted, and you are so much more exposed and vulnerable in a car. Rarely is a plane in danger of being sideswiped by another plane, and if it is, are we really gonna survive anyway?</div>
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You're right...you're not going to get T-boned by another plane at 36,000 feet - and no one is surviving that! The only concern when you're cruising along is turbulence; while it definitely CAN hit hard and with no warning (clear air turbulence), it's pretty rare for it to be so severe that you wouldn't be able to hold onto your child.<br><br>
It's takeoff and landing that are risky, when nearly all accidents/incidents occur. When they do happen, a carseat increases a kid's survivability.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It's takeoff and landing that are risky, when nearly all accidents/incidents occur. When they do happen, a carseat increases a kid's survivability.</div>
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So does this apply for all children? As in my 3.5 y.o. if she's under 40 lbs? Or just that it's better to be in a car seat than in-arms? It seems like a car seat would be safer for crashes since lap belts aren't very safe for small children. Is this right?<br><br>
...and if so, how do parents of multiple small children manage flying? Bring both parents and go slightly nuts?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So does this apply for all children? As in my 3.5 y.o. if she's under 40 lbs? Or just that it's better to be in a car seat than in-arms? It seems like a car seat would be safer for crashes since lap belts aren't very safe for small children. Is this right?<br><br>
...and if so, how do parents of multiple small children manage flying? Bring both parents and go slightly nuts?</div>
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yes I think your 3.5 year old is safer in a car seat than just in a lap belt. JMO
 
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