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quote: <i>"The biggest myth of all is that food has any connection to behavior," says Steven Pliszka, MD, professor of psychiatry, University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio.</i><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br><br>
ok.... can we weigh in on this issue?<br><br>
as a mother of a child who is very sensitive to dyes and petroleum-based preservatives, i cannot believe that a doctor could claim children like my son don't exist.<br><br>
another quote: <i>"But the problem with the Feingold diet is you can't keep a child on it because it eliminates things kids really like."</i><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> you mean things like overly-processed mass-manufactured foods? not even all of *those* are eliminated on the Feingold diet. i know ~ we've used it.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> IMO kids will like what you feed them, what they're raised around. my son really adores salad loaded with field greens (mesclun, dandelion greens), cabbage, herbs and olive oil...
 

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I'm with you Klothos!<br><br>
It really bugs me when parents say they HAVE to give their children food loaded with sugar and chemicals because their kids like them. Some parents think my kids are "deprived" because I don't give them those foods.<br><br>
Give me a BREAK! That is such crap! My kids love fresh, whole foods and are enthusiastic eaters. They are so healthy - hardly ever get sick and when they do, they are over it quickly.<br><br>
And as for food not having an effect on behavior - I have seen the affect sugar has on my kids - and it's not pretty!
 

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another here who could not agree with you more---my daughter this very morning had a reaction to some "strawberry cake" that MIL fed her on memorial day (strangely (?) she always reacts about 48 hours later). i'm sure red dye was all over that thing knowing the way dh's family cooks.<br><br>
kloth, is this your own observation or did you take your son to the doctor? i would love to have confirmation so that i could convince family members to stop feeding crap. i worry so about when dd goes to school and is exposed to sugars and dyes all day long. it really was a miserable morning....it's like she's an out of control animal, i am totally serious.<br><br>
edited to add that this issue makes me miserable because i don't want to be food police and yet......??? the aftermath is so horrid!!!
 

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i made observations (and my own experiments) over the course of several months, then took it to my doctor, who backed me up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> (great pediatrician.)<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nod.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nod"> that's why i had to take him to the doctor ~ the school wouldn't just take my word for it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> so i talked to his doctor, who basically said that mothers know best <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> and that it's "not unheard of."
 

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The problem is that most of the things that affect behaviour are not really food...dyes, preservatives, toxins, refined sugar etc. etc...<br><br>
So in that way he is right...but there are foods that affect behaviour as well...wheat allergies, dairy etc...
 

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:LOL yes, i would agree w/ the dyes and preservatives, you're totally right.<br><br>
although, i do still consider sugar ~ even refined sugar ~ food. but i know what you mean.
 

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Yea, its all the crap they put IN the food to make it look good that affects behavior.<br><br>
I remember how my ds would react to sugar. I had never been around someone with an addictive personality, but at such a young age, his behavior would change RADICALLY from sugar. It continued thru his teens, then he went thru an addiction to pot. Now that I look back on it, I could see it in his relation to sugar.<br><br>
It continues to amaze me doctors total lack of knowledge about nutrition and children. I just went thru this w/my naturopath and the fact that we are vegetarians........(he was concerned about her getting protein) and he was also upset that I didnt give her cows milk. Id really love to find a dietician who could support my views on how we eat.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">IMO kids will like what you feed them, what they're raised around. my son really adores salad loaded with field greens (mesclun, dandelion greens), cabbage, herbs and olive oil...</td>
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EXACTLY!<br><br>
Our son is the same way, he actually picks out the fruit & vegetables from a dish and eats those first, we have to feed him the rest of the dish or he will keep saying "more broccoli", "more peas", etc... It's sad to see, but when you go out someplace the food that is always targeted towards kids or on kids menus is about the worst/most fat-laden, like hot dogs, hamburgers, grilled cheese, chicken nuggets (with probably 2% of actual meat in them). Everywhere we go it seems the bank or to a store, you walk in the door and they give your kid a lollipop? If we are asked we always decline, and the people are blown away, their like "are you sure"? Sometimes people just walk right up and hand our son a sucker, he's 2 and never eaten one, so he thinks it's just a toy, and when he gets bored of it, we walk over and toss it in the trash.<br><br>
Children eat what they are used to eating, and also what they see their parents eating. The kids we know that eat junk food and candy, that's what their parents are eating also, and then the parents are like "he won't eat anything but chips"? I want to say "really, I wonder why"?
 

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People would always offer my dd candy and cookies before she was even 1yr! Im sure the look on my face was worth a thousand words! We still dont buy candy or allow her to have it. ANd I keep the sugar items down to a minimum.<br><br>
DD eats all veggies........she'll reach back in the shopping cart and grab the broccoli and start munching away! But she wont eat meat. We were worried when our ND said we should be concerned about her protein intake. We got some organic chicken.....and she happened to see dh put in on the grill raw, and said "I aint eatin THAT!" She didnt either. My neice was the same way. WOuldnt eat meat and at 18yrs old, is still a vegetarian.
 

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Mainstream doctors and teachers refute the claim that what you eat can alter your behavior. My son had many behavior problems, that I felt as his mother, where due in part to food allergies/sensitivities. We took him to a holistic MD, who tested him and found him to be sensitive to wheat and dairy. We took him off these offending products and he is a changed little boy. You are what you eat.............And didn't someone say, "Let thy food be thy remedy"........maybe Hippocrates?<br><br>
Just my 2 cents......aimee
 

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Well, from what I see in my son's friends and from what their parents say, food doesn't have much of an effect on their behavior. For my son, it decidedly does- if he doesn't eat protein before having fruit/ sugar, he's a mess! But if you're doing a study of the general population, the relatively small percentage of people who are noticeably affected by diet is not going to show up. (I'm betting if we could look at their raw data, there would be plenty of people who consistently are affected, but they're not significantly significant.) So while the write-up is not good, I would not be surprised to find food doesn't dramatically affect most of the population.
 
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