Oops - sorry Steph, didn't see your thread.
Mods, can you please delete this thread? Thanks.
Mods, can you please delete this thread? Thanks.
For all you Nader supporters...
This is sorta old news, but perhaps y'all might want to rethink the values of your "champion":
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/01/po...01NADE.html?hp
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It appears he'll take anything he can get from any quarters, even the Republicans, and not speak out against it (even if he's not actively coordinating it, which I don't personally believe he's doing). I must run to take a shower now and scrub, scrub scrub - I voted for the guy in 2000. Ew.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/01/po...01NADE.html?hp
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| Perhaps even more unusual is Mr. Nader's apparently unwitting alliance with Republicans in states where a small shift in voting could swing the election to President Bush or Mr. Kerry. Conservative groups have already mobilized for Mr. Nader in Oregon as well as in Arizona, where 46 percent of the registered voters who signed petitions last month to get Mr. Nader on the ballot were Republicans, almost double the percentage of Democrats or Independents, according to a state Democratic Party lawyer. In Wisconsin, a conservative group said it was preparing to follow Oregon's example, by urging Republicans to sign petitions when Mr. Nader's signature drive begins next month. "We'll definitely be spreading the word that we'd like to see Nader on the ballot," said Cameron Sholty, the Wisconsin state director for Citizens for a Sound Economy, a conservative antitax group. "We'll do phone trees and friends-of-friends, and those Nader events will be a great way to drive our membership to get out to sign petitions for Nader." In the interview, Mr. Nader said he had not seen any evidence that Republicans had acted inappropriately and instead accused Democrats of "dirty tricks" to keep him off ballots. |
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Don't know about that deleting the thread thing, Marlena. Am thinking that perhaps it can't be said too often or in too many ways ...
"Conservative groups have already mobilized for Mr. Nader in Oregon as well as in Arizona, where 46 percent of the registered voters who signed petitions last month to get Mr. Nader on the ballot were Republicans, almost double the percentage of Democrats or Independents, according to a state Democratic Party lawyer."
See, this is what's pissing me off! It's not that they're Nader supporter at heart, they just want to screw with Kerry! If Nader truly had a big support base - people who believed in his message, concepts, etc. that would be fine to see him getting into the polls. But to have him put there as a spoiler by the Repubs. just gets my goat.
BTW, Marlena, thanks for a different link than the one I posted. I think it's good to have more info.!!
See, this is what's pissing me off! It's not that they're Nader supporter at heart, they just want to screw with Kerry! If Nader truly had a big support base - people who believed in his message, concepts, etc. that would be fine to see him getting into the polls. But to have him put there as a spoiler by the Repubs. just gets my goat.
BTW, Marlena, thanks for a different link than the one I posted. I think it's good to have more info.!!
I have a good friend whose roommate in college is now a high-up in the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign. I saw her at said friend's engagement party a few weeks ago and I said to her "So, you guys must be thrilled about Nader, huh?" She looked positively GLEEFUL. She said, "OH, yes. You have no idea."
The polls are showing that Kerry is ahead of Bush if the election were to happen now, EXCEPT if Nader is a factor--then he loses Kerry enough points that Bush wins. It's like a recurring nightmare that no one can stop.
The polls are showing that Kerry is ahead of Bush if the election were to happen now, EXCEPT if Nader is a factor--then he loses Kerry enough points that Bush wins. It's like a recurring nightmare that no one can stop.
It looks as though the democrats are worried about Nadar. They are really keeping an eye on him. They want to make sure that he isn't going to be on to many state ballots. Of course it will be Nadars own fault if he doesn't go through the proper process to get on the ballots. Lucky for him the dems are making sure he does.
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Nadar not on Arizona ballot
More of the same - I feel sad that decent Republicans are getting so dirtied by all of these dirty dealings of a few ugly Republicans bent on gaining power no matter what. Makes the whole party once again look like a bunch of creeps. Seems every day there is something new - GOP members embezzling money from schools, jamming Democratic phone banks, purging eligible voters from voting rolls, trying to prevent accountable elections.
Nader? I think he sold out his high ideals long ago. Every time I hear him speak or read him he is fostering more partisanship. He is not about unity, not about concession and consensus-building, not about reaching across the aisle. He is just using the partisan atmosphere of our nation for his gain. It's ugly. So, IMO he is part of the problem.
Nader? I think he sold out his high ideals long ago. Every time I hear him speak or read him he is fostering more partisanship. He is not about unity, not about concession and consensus-building, not about reaching across the aisle. He is just using the partisan atmosphere of our nation for his gain. It's ugly. So, IMO he is part of the problem.
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