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Whatcha doin with it????<br>
We just started making goat's milk formula for DS--he has weaned himself, I think bc I'm pregnant. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I have been getting the Meyenberg's (or however it's spelled) goat milk from just about any store, but it's the only option I've seen anywhere. I've looked at New Seasons on Division and 20th, and the Wild Oats in Gresham, and that's the only goat's milk anyone has. I'm interested to know if there's other options available around here.
 

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Breana...we want it for the baby (13 mos). He is allergic to cow. We just starting giving him the Meyenberg powder, but he has a slight rash on his cheeks. He also had some other new foods, so I am hoping the rash is NOT due to the goats milk, but I want to try some fresher milk. We got the carton of Meyenberg today. He has had goat yogurt for many months without any issues.<br><br>
Sorry about your milk, mama!!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> How has it been to make your own formula? It looks pretty daunting.<br><br>
Hopefully someone will have some info!<br><br>
Goats! Calling all goats...
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lurk.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lurk">:
 

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Ok, I found some.<br>
Found this info on <a href="http://www.realmilk.com" target="_blank">www.realmilk.com</a><br>
Eagle Creek (near Portland): Cornerstone Farm, 28880 SE Hawkins Ln. Eagle Creek, Oregon 97022, Phone: (503) 630-7281, Email: <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> . Fresh, raw, grass-fed goat milk.
 

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Thanks, Ferra!!! Eagle Creek is actually not *too* far from me...I'm in outer SE, almost Gresham.<br>
EStreet, poor sweetie--I hope the rash clears up and that the fresh milk works out better for you guys. There are a couple of different recipes for the formula, and the one that my dr gave me is *much* less complicated than the one I've seen online. I have adapted it a little bit to include some more of the things that the complicated one has, but overall it's pretty simple. It helps, too, that he's an older baby--I might be more tempted to do the really complicated one if he was just a newborn--but he's eating LOTS of solids, and has been nursing up until real recently, so I think it's going pretty well. I'm *hoping* that he will start nursing again when the baby is born...at this point it's **** 5 months away, so it may be a long shot--but I'd like him to if he wants to.
 

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Are there any concerns about drinking raw milk? And what does "certified" mean, exactly? I'm really curious about it, but a little bit scared. Are there things you should check out before you buy from a farm?<br>
DH works in Vancouver, near Camas. It probably wouldn't be hard for him to pick up milk after work some days.
 

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Breana: ha, that's exactly what I was thinking! A bit nervous about giving raw milk to the boy. Also, I REALLY can't deal with dairy myself--so there's no way I could drink it myself for awhile to make sure it's good. I have a friend in CA who fed her premie twins raw goats milk when her supply died. I am trying to get in touch with her to learn more.<br><br>
I'm going to pursue the fresh milk and will share any info. In the meantime,<br>
would you mind sharing your goat formula recipe? My boy is rambling around whining...I think he's hungry despite tons of solids.<br><br>
Anyone else have experience with raw milk for their babies/toddlers? I would feel better about a particular farm if someone knew them. YKWIM?<br><br>
--Adrienne
 

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PLease don't be afraid of raw milk mama's!!! It's really food in the raw state. Moon has had it in smoothies plenty of times. And there is really no need for you to drink it to know if there is something wrong. The only concern is spoiling, then the smell is obvious. The good thing is that spoiled raw milk is not actually "spoiled" but just different. Pasteurized dairy is scary. Many more illnesses than from raw dairy, often because of how the animals are treated. Sorry to sound all crazy, but I really want people to have access to raw dairy and not have any fears. Fear tactics are just the man getting in the way of healthy people and animals living harmoniously <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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Breana, are you supplimenting at the breast? Because then he will be more likely to go back to it when the colostrum/milk comes in. If he is rejecting it because there is no milk I would treat it as a nursing strike more than a "weaning." I wouldn't expect him to "go back to it" if he hasn't been using the breast for food for 5 months. Can you get a lact-aid and keep offering?<br><br>
Good luck mama!
 

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I absolutely love the little family farm in Camas! They are wonderful people, and have a beautiful little homestead going on, it is my dream place! Their goats are so cute, and she hand milks them herself and has a happy relationship with them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> My kids and I have really enjoyed going there weekly to get our milk.<br><br>
Certified meaning that the milk is tested weekly, I believe. A trustworthy source.<br><br>
oh, just adding in, that they usually dry up the goats in the winter, so it's getting close.
 

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Yeah...I just read somewhere that October thru February is low-season for the goaties. Dry time before the babies come.<br><br>
Thanks for the good words about the farm in Camas!!
 

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You mamas are awesome!<br>
EStreet, it's nice to know I wasn't the only one thinking that!<br>
MamaJessica and Tweetybirds2, I really appreciate your info and experience. It makes me much more comfortable with it, especially after what you said, Jessica. So, for people who only drink/use raw goat's milk--what do they do in the winter???<br>
SadKitty--I'm gonna pull out my SNS tomorrow and see if he'll take it. I started him with 1 supplemented bottle/day (I use sippy cups now during the day instead of bottles), and it's gone downhill from there, until 3 nights ago all we had left was one middle of the night nursing and now he won't even do that. I have some milk--I'm able to express a little if I try, so it's either that he doesn't like the taste or doesn't like the "slow flow". "Nursing strike" sounds like a better term for it. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow--thanks so much for the suggestion!!<br>
Recipes for goat's milk formula:<br>
The one my dr.s office gave me (off the top of my head):<br>
1 qt goat's milk<br>
1/2 C organic brown rice syrup (to combat constipation in little ones--not necessary for older kids)<br>
2 C water (to make the right protein proportion, or something like that)<br>
1 tsp Cod liver oil<br>
Infant Liquid Multi-vitamin, with iron & folic acid<br><br>
I kind of don't like that all the vitamins and stuff come from supplements, and not from food--but I haven't found a good source for raw organic chicken liver yet (anyone??), and he's eating a lot of food, too... I've been adding the nutritional yeast, as well.<br>
The other recipe that's out there is at: <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html" target="_blank">http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html</a><br>
Has anyone made this recipe before???
 

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Breana, firefaery over in Traditional food has made that formula for her littles. She is such an amazing source of knowledge. I bet if you were to hop over there she would be lots of help, even if you just read her old posts. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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oht & nak<br>
we used raw goats milk for marek when he was about 8 months old-ish. they were selling it at new seasons from a local farm... echo glen, maybe? our naturopath was very comfortable with us using raw because it contains the enzymes that would be broken down and inactivated by pasteurization that help with digestion of animal milks. we used a different recipe for fortification: fish oil capsule (squeezed out into the milk), sunflower seed/flax seed oil, liquid iron, folic acid. we were still nursing so we didn't worry too much about a multivitamin, but i think i would add that if the goats milk was the primary source of food.<br><br>
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Hey there--thanks for the recipe, Breana!<br><br>
I just emailed Conway Family Farm in Camas. They are licensed for raw milk so that help my fears calm down a lot. (Thanks to you too, MamaJessica!!!)<br><br>
Will post what I hear back from the farm!!!
 

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I haven't been able to find my SNS yet... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> hopefully while we are moving stuff I will find it. Claudia, what did you use to feed the goat's milk to Marek?<br><br>
EStreetMama, I'd love to hear what you find out from the farm! Maybe we could go up there sometime before they dry up the goats?<br><br>
Thank you so much, Jessica! I will look up FireFaery's posts.<br><br>
Claudia, I'd love to find out more about your recipe. Not QUITE as in depth as that one I posted a link too, but more whole food than the one I'm using. I still wish every day we didn't have to do this (although I don't wish I was not pregnant)...that makes it harder... I just want to be able to breastfeed a kid until they wean themselves at a nice appropriate age (10, 11???.. .ha ha ha) Maybe I should get on the breastfeeding threads... It hink I have some issues here...
 

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Just bumping because I had posted a similar question about getting raw cow's milk! Thanks for all the info. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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