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DS has been eating non-stop this past week (he is 4 wks old today). He's been waking up every 2 hrs at night. I don't know if he is overtired which causes him to act hungry or if he really is hungry so I just end up feeding him. I don't mind, I am just super tired and frustrated because I don't know if I am doing something wrong. He gained 1 lb 2 oz in two weeks time so I know he is gaining weight, but he just seems SO fussy and hungry all the time. He doesn't have a wakeful period where he isn't acting hungry...and he definitely doesn't sleep the 16-18 hrs per day.<br><br>
Anyways, a bunch of people (IRL and online) have told me to just supplement w/formula for the nighttime/before bed feeding to hold him over but I am not going to do that. I am set on bfing...just stressed out.<br><br>
Sorry, I don't really have a point to this thread..I guess just to vent. Thanks for listening!
 

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Do you know about the growth spurts? 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 12 weeks and a few more that I'm sure I've forgotten!<br><br>
But nursing every 2 hours is about average.<br><br>
Do you co-sleep? If you can mastering nursing while sidelying, you'll get a lot more sleep!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Do you know about the growth spurts? 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 12 weeks and a few more that I'm sure I've forgotten!<br><br>
But nursing every 2 hours is about average.<br><br>
Do you co-sleep? If you can mastering nursing while sidelying, you'll get a lot more sleep!</div>
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I have an arm's reach co-sleeper but he hates it and has been sleeping with me since we brought him home. I do nurse him while I sleep/dose off, but it seems hard to get a good latch that way since it ends up hurting. Sometimes I am just so tired that I don't even care.<br><br>
He has been napping in his own crib for the past few days and he seems to sleep really well in there. I think I may try having him sleep in there tonight just to see how it goes. I am starting to think we just don't sleep well together <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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SOunds totally normal to me! My son was hungry allllllllll the time.<br>
Your baby is gaining weight, so your are obviously doing something right.<br><br>
Dont' listen to those people telling you to supplement
 

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sounds like my boys all 3 did this. the twins where fed every hour the first 4 months except at night where they fed every 2-2.5 hours.<br>
Sorry about the formula pushers, not sure why they think that will help....
 

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TOTALLY normal. Just keep him at the breast as much as possible, day and night, and nurse nurse nurse.<br><br>
things will settle down soon.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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Here's someone telling you <i>not</i> to supplement. Babies nurse more during growth spurts so you make more milk. With your first baby you are acturally developing more milk producing anatomy in your breasts.<br><br>
If you did supplement and your baby fell asleep or seemed happy you would think there was something wrong with you or your milk. Actually babies can overeat formula and it is so hard to digest that it makes them fall asleep so the body can use the energy to try and get that modified cow milk digested.<br><br>
The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends exclusive breastfeeding with no pacifiers or bottles for the first 6 months. According to (WHO) virtually all women can breastfeed -women in starving conditions, women living in war conditions, women with one breast, women with twins, 15 year old mothers, 45 year old mothers, poor mothers, rich mothers,mothers of babies with birth defects, mothers of sick babies, sick mothers, disabled mothers, all mothers. If you have two breasts, normal nipples, and a healthy baby then it is almost certain, way over 95%, probably over 97% chance you can breastfeed your baby with plenty of milk.
 

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It's so annoying-there is no guarantee that giving him formula or cereal or anything will make him sleep better! All babies have different sleep habits!<br>
He's just hitting a growth spurt, so you're doing the exact right thing =) Post here and you'll get lots of affirmations, instead of idiots suggesting formula.
 

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Sounds completely normal <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> You're doing great!<br><br>
We did a before-bed bottle of formula for a few nights when ds was about 5 months old (I didn't want to but ped and dh did...) Ds was waking every 2-3 hours at that point - and 3 hours after the bottle, he was up again wanting to nurse. So formula didn't help him sleep longer at all.<br><br>
And lest you hear that you should try putting a little cereal in the bottle - dh did that one night too. Didn't help either. (And caused major problems between dh and I <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
At that age, ds slept better in a basket right next to our bed. Of course that meant me having to get up numerous times a night - always a pain. But the sleep in between was better. We started bed sharing when he went through the 4 month sleep regression and it took me awhile to figure out what was comfortable and worked for both of us.<br><br>
Just smile and nod and keep doing what you're doing! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Have you had him checked for a tongue tie? My friend had the same story as you with her first, the baby seemed unsatisfied all the time and my friend was in a lot of pain but the baby gained a lot of weight quickly. I don't know if this matches to you though, it just reminded me.<br><br>
Otherwise eating all the time is kind of what babies do! It sounds like you are nurturing your child and being a loving mum. Ignore the sceptics and congratulate yourself on doing a great job <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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The Breastfeeding Book, by Martha Sears & Dr. William Sears<br>
So That's What They're For, by Janet Tamaro<br><br>
Read these while you are BF - it is what I did to encourage myself through the early weeks. They answer a VAST amount of questions in an easily comprehendable way.<br><br>
Is DS going 2 hours BETWEEN feedings, or 2 hours from the start of 1 to the start of the next? 4 weeks is still REALLY young to be going more than 2-3 hours . . . If you think about how tiny that tummy is, it kinda makes sense.<br><br>
(I have had experience with tongue-tie, and my DS would simply SCREAM/cry when he wasn't eating -- and I had about 15-20 minutes between sessions -- what does your DS do when he is NOT eating?)<br><br>
After 6 weeks, things really did get better for me (longer sleep stretches). At 7 months, she is sleeping 10 hours at night (she sometimes wakes up in the middle for a feeding, but goes right back to sleep)!!! She eats more frequently during the day, and 'cluster-feeds' when it is close to bed-time. She started sleeping 5-6 hours around the 2 months mark (we did not MAKE her, just what she did on her own - we don't agree with CIO) . . . so, I bet you will get there soon too.<br><br>
Regarding to co-sleep/not. We did co-sleeping with our first 2, but for our new baby, it just was not working. She was waking MORE frequently, and even started catching lots of colds. When she sleeps in her crib (4 feet from my bed) she sleeps PERFECT. I nurse her until she falls asleep, pick her up, patting her back gently, then place her on her belly to sleep (according to AAP standards, I *know* baby should only go on her back to sleep, but she was picking her head up, rolling over, etc. by 2 months, when we started doing this). If she startles/wakes up, I pick her back up and start over (we NEVER let her lay there and cry). Sometimes it can take 2-3 tries, but once she is 'out', she stays out.<br><br>
We really *wanted* to co-sleep, but I want a healthy baby MORE. Every baby is a little different . . . DD#1 co-slept (soundly) with us until 4, DS until 3 . . . so I was very sad not to have it work with DD#2. We truly enjoy our nursie times, though -- and during the day (if I have time) she loves to take her nap at-breast. It's not quite co-sleeping, but it IS pretty great. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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I would only be concerned if you thought he wanted to be at the breast a lot (though every two hours doesn't sound totally unreasonable at that age) b/c he were uncomfortable or not feeling well.<br><br>
When my DS was a newborn, if he was awake, he nursed or screamed. I mean screamed. As in bloody murder. As in Jack Bauer-esque interrogation scenes. The only thing that calmed him was my boob (he was 9lb 15oz at birth, and gained at a phenomenal clip b/c of all the nursing). Fast forward through the most grueling 5.5 weeks in my life. He then spiked a fever, was admitted to the hospital, found to have a UTI. Within 24 hours of IV antibiotics, he was a different baby, relaxed, slept, nursed a lot less, and I had a massive oversupply. I had to pump to relieve engorgement for several days. In retrospect, I realize the infection had been brewing, and he had been in pain, and that's why he was constantly nursing for comfort.<br><br>
I think this is quite an unusual circumstance, and I don't have any reason to think your child is not well. I just throw it out there as one of the less usual possibilities. Of course, if you think his fussiness may indicate that something is amiss (I did, but everyone just said, "must just be colic"), I would raise the issue with your pediatrician.<br><br>
I think you're experiencing fairly typical new mama fatigue. Yes, some kiddos sleep for longer stretches, or eat less frequently, but not all. I don't imagine formula would make a difference.
 

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Colic is a bit of a 'catch-all', and the term sometimes means "we just don't know what's wrong . . . so, it's colic!" Good job Toastytoes for pursuing a diagnosis. Your poor baby (and You!) . . .<br><br>
Severe gastric reflux is another thing that can cause 'colic' -- you would likely notice excessive spit-up, though . . .
 

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unless it is silent reflux, like my DS had! he hardly spit up (out).. but was always burping up stuff and swallowing it back down!<br><br><br>
to the OP, totally totally normal. DS is 6 months old and still nurses ever 1-2 hours! You are doing great! Keep up the good work Mama and tell those formula pushers to shove it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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I think nursing every 2 hours day or night is pretty standard for a newborn. I hear most babies settle down around 4 months. Mine never did and still wakes every 2 hours to nurse at 8.5 months. But he's always been a chubby baby and I'm certain he gets enough. As long as your babe is peeing and pooping enough there is no need to supplement!
 

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Maybe try upping your supply with some Mother's Milk Tea or fenugreek?<br><br>
how long does he sleep at night? If he goes to be early, you might consider doing a dream feed - nursing him right when you are planning on going to bed.<br><br>
I also had a friend who would have her DH feed the baby a bottle of pumped breast milk before bed. She swore the baby would sleep longer because she got a full 4-6 ounces in. C would then pump during that time making the bottle for the next night. It was a nice time for the daddy and baby to bond too.
 

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My daughter had very defined growth spurts, and by the end of each, I felt like I was going to go crazy. But really, they do end and life goes back to normal (given that you have a little baby). For my daughter, part of the growth spurt seemed to be feeling off, just harder to settle and less able to nap (plus the extra nursing, of course). By the end of the 6-week growth spurt, on the last day of it (hers turned on and off very abruptly) in order for her to nap, I had to be holding her and walking--not standing, certainly not sitting, but walking. And the next day, at 4pm (yes, very abrupt) she just went back to normal, and napping returned to normal, her demeanor was back to what it had been before.<br><br>
The hardest thing is that with a new baby, especially the first, the changes are happening so fast, it's just one after another after another, it really can be hard, mentally, to keep adjusting. So it's okay to feel a bit stressed, just acknowledge it and try to accept it. It really does lessen with time.
 

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Well it sounds like he is doing awesome weight wise. Does he sleep better if he is more upright in your arms then laying down? When my son was very gassy as a small baby he slept a bit longer and better if I slept propped up with him on my chest.<br><br>
But, he is 9 mos old and last nigth he woke up every two hours to nurse.
 
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