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So far this year, my son's school has had five, count them, five, fundraisers. We've participated in a couple, but isn't FIVE way too many??!! Of course, I have to keep explaining to ds why we're not participating in whatever fundraiser his teacher got him excited about. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll">
 

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I'd rather just write a check to the school. That way they can have the entire amount, not the 1% or whatever it is the school gets to keep from doing those fundraisers. I don't want my child selling door to door. Company Ethics Regulations forbid me from taking it to work to sell myself. I do not want, nor do I need any of the junk they are selling. Grrrrr.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'd rather just write a check to the school. That way they can have the entire amount, not the 1% or whatever it is the school gets to keep from doing those fundraisers. I don't want my child selling door to door. Company Ethics Regulations forbid me from taking it to work to sell myself. I do not want, nor do I need any of the junk they are selling. Grrrrr.</div>
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I'd rather our society valued education enough that government would fund schools properly.
 

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We also write a check to the PTA at the beginning of the year and we are done with it. The fundraiser literature goes directly into the recycling bin.<br><br>
I also really resent that the school squanders educational time on getting kids spun up to sell crap in order to receive plastic trinkets. That's positively obscene.
 

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And this is one good thing about ds having autism. They give him the fundraiser stuff at school, try to get the kids pumped up about it but, honestly, he doesn't even care. LOL! This last one was something about "if you get X number of orders you get a free Scooby Doo t-shirt!". Whatever. DS doesn't know who Scooby Doo is, nor does he care. We trashed it.
 

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My dc have had 4 fundraisers so far.They all went right into the recycle bin.I can't afford to buy anything,nor do I need any of the things they sell.I'd rather give to the school directly if i can afford it.My kids don't even care about the little trinkets.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> We do the book orders though,as the class gets free books and we get books for a good price.
 

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I don't participate. Whether the schools are appropriately funded or not is beside the point. Shoving catalogs filled with overpriced made in China garbage into the hands of children who've been pumped and psyched via an assembly about all the crap they can earn is morally reprehensible in my world, and it puts a burden on parents to go out and find people to badger into buying the stuff. (Maybe I'm just grouchy because all my relatives are poor and I don't have money to spend and every person we know is also trying to sell this junk). Who has the money? Who wants the crap?<br><br>
I vote when school levies are on my ballot, and I vote yes. Schools waste a lot of money, and it is truly a shame that the teachers get the shaft for it because the administration hogs and improperly prioritizes the money, but frankly that's not something I have control over. My children attend school to learn, that's it. I don't send them there to get exposed to what amounts to a pyramid scheme- or to be used as pawns in a game.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Of course, I have to keep explaining to ds why we're not participating in whatever fundraiser his teacher got him excited about.</div>
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That's the hard part. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Fundraisers are so unfair when the children are really young. A parent kind of gets sucked in by the child. If you don't do it and every other child does it then the child gets upset.<br><br>
In the past if it was something where the kids would get rewarded really big then I would buy just enough so my child could get the big prize, but I still wouldn't take it and ask friends or family to buy things. I don't do that. Last year, for instance, at my children's school one fundraiser was for something where all the $$ raised went to the school so I didn't mind so much. In the end the kids who actually brough in the $$ and got a certain amount got rewarded through various field trips, depending on grade levels. I felt SO sorry for the kids that didn't go on the field trips but I made sure my kids got to go by donating the minimum in order to get to go on the field trip.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">In the end the kids who actually brough in the $$ and got a certain amount got rewarded through various field trips, depending on grade levels.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="jaw2"> That's just horrible!<br><br>
The 6 weeks my ds was in school, there were 4 fundraisers.
 

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what about fundraisers that do not require ordering stuff or harassing family members and neighbors.<br><br>
Scrip program, Goodsearch, Box Tops for education, Linking target and grocery store reward cards to schools, Read a thons, Book fairs, family bingo nights with small monetary donation to play and have dinner.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="jaw2"> That's just horrible!</div>
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It WAS horrible. The field trip for my kindergartener's class was to chuck e cheese and there were 4 kids that didn't get to go. I felt so sad for them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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This makes me SOOOOOOO mad as well!!!! Last year my poor DS was crying because he didn't sell enough crap to win the cheap prize. They have these big 'pep rallies' about them and the kids get so exicted.<br><br>
We had a BIG talk about it. I explained our point of view and that we would rather give $$ to the school instead. He was sad but understood and he hasn't been too upset this year.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't participate. Whether the schools are appropriately funded or not is beside the point. Shoving catalogs filled with overpriced made in China garbage into the hands of children who've been pumped and psyched via an assembly about all the crap they can earn is morally reprehensible in my world, and it puts a burden on parents to go out and find people to badger into buying the stuff. (Maybe I'm just grouchy because all my relatives are poor and I don't have money to spend and every person we know is also trying to sell this junk). Who has the money? Who wants the crap?<br><br>
I vote when school levies are on my ballot, and I vote yes. Schools waste a lot of money, and it is truly a shame that the teachers get the shaft for it because the administration hogs and improperly prioritizes the money, but frankly that's not something I have control over. My children attend school to learn, that's it. I don't send them there to get exposed to what amounts to a pyramid scheme- or to be used as pawns in a game.</div>
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Exactly!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">what about fundraisers that do not require ordering stuff or harassing family members and neighbors.<br><br>
Scrip program, Goodsearch, Box Tops for education, Linking target and grocery store reward cards to schools, Read a thons, Book fairs, family bingo nights with small monetary donation to play and have dinner.</div>
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Readathons (linked to us paying money) bother me, as do "pizza coupons for how much you have read." I want reading to be reading. Period. You do it because it is fun and informative.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'd rather our society valued education enough that government would fund schools properly.</div>
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Funny this reminds me of a poster one of my high school teachers had in his classroom.<br><br>
"It will be a great day when the schools get all the money they need to teach our children and the milatary has to hold a bake sale to buy a tank."<br><br>
This was 20 plus years ago. But it always stuck with me.
 

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Our school is the same way. It does make me upset that the kids are exposed to the fundraiser company sales reps and are promised prizes if they sell a certain number of items.<br><br>
I will admit that I am a bit conflicted about fundraisers. Our school is fully funded when it comes to providing the 'basics' to students. Our fundraisers are to pay for things that aren't necessary, but are nice. The fundraisers fund extra programs like having professional artists and songwriters come into school. They also fund field trip scholarships. But there's a part of me that thinks, if families can't afford the $12/month for their kid to go on a field trip, what makes the administration think that that family could afford to buy or peddle $300 of cookie dough (only $120 of which goes to the school)?<br><br>
I love that our school has non-corporate fundraisers: family fun nights, spaghetti dinners, carnivals, raffles, etc. But I really hate the corporate sales.
 

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School started on 9/4 and my daughter just brought home the 1st PTA fundraiser last wk and it's due tomorrow. It's for pre shaped cookie dough that makes 48 cookies. each box is either $13 or $14 depending on the choice of flavor of cookie</span>
 

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I agree that kids should not have to listen to the marketing and I don't like the junky prizes. Our PTA fundraiser is just a donation drive. They have different levels... stickers all the way up through a sub party. We donated, though it made me feel horrible that DS's best friend probably wouldn't donate, and how that would be awkward and sad when DS got the prizes and the friend did not. But it was important for us to donate, so we did. I hope that they give the prizes in a low-key way so it doesn't call attention to these facts.<br><br>
Anyway, we just received a reminder from the teacher in the newsletter that Monday was the last day to donate. And that TWO families had participated in DS's class. To get the first level of prizes, you have to give anything--a penny would do it. This is typical participation rate in the private/charter/public schools we've been in. When I see that, I understand why they go so crazy with the prizes (understand--not support). I don't know what the answer is, but I don't know why folks can't just give a penny.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't know what the answer is, but I don't know why folks can't just give a penny.</div>
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We don't always donate, and this is my reason: we already pay taxes to support the schools. The fundraisers go to fund 'extras', not basic education needs. Now I understand that the line between basic education and 'extras' is EXTREMELY fuzzy. And I think it is awesome that schools can provide opportunities to do things that kids wouldn't have otherwise had. But there needs to be a line drawn somewhere.<br><br>
As for the comment about people giving just a penny- I would never dream of giving just a penny to a school, the $ the school spent on the prize would be more than I donated, putting the school into the red. I tend to think about it this way: what would an extra $5 or $10 or $20 or $50 do for the school vs. for my family. We don't have an unlimited amount of money, and we need to spend it the way we feel is best.<br><br>
I also give more or less money based on what they are fundraising for. Our school usually tells us what they plan to do with the money they are collecting. I'd be much more likely to donate if that money was going to buy extra curriculum or fix the school's roof (things that are needed) than if the money is being raised to pay for an all-school tie-dye shirt making party (something that our kids did this fall, which was fun, but I don't think was NEEDED).
 

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I don't have a huge problem with fundraisers, but dd's school is pretty low key. There is currently a magazine drive on for library materials, but that is really the only ask your friends and family type fundraiser, so I had no problem with that, and they had magazines dh and I wanted to subscribe to anyway. DD does get prizes and she thinks that part of it is fun. The other fundraisers include the Friday hot lunch program (there is no cafeteria in the school, so the parent council sells hot lunch on Fridays and profits from that go to the school) and the first Friday of every month is pizza lunch for the music program. DD needs to eat lunch anyway, so I do buy her the lunches on Fridays as long as it is something she likes. The other fundraiser only happens every couple of years, and that is where parents volunteer to work at a casino over a couple of days (running chips to tables, working in the countroom etc). This is how casinos in our province are legal, a portion of profits must go to charity or non-profit groups, and groups get that money by working at the casino and then get a share of the profits for the quarter - a group can make anywhere from $25,000-50,000 from this. DD's swim club also fundraises this way.
 
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