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(Also posted in delayed vac section)<br><br>
Until a few days ago, I didn't even know you could choose to delay your childs vaccinations, not give vacs at all, or pick and choose which ones you wanted to give.<br><br>
So now, I am searching for info, so that when we have children, I can make a properly informed decision about whether or not to vaccinate our children.<br><br>
If you have the spare time, could you list the vaccinations that children normally recieve, as well as pro and cons to each one? I'd love to hear as much info as you have (for example, if you have facts & figures, I would prefer to hear them than just "vacs don't work".) When I mentioned this to my SO yesterday, he freaked out a bit, so the more concrete info I can get, the better. He also mentioned that he was behind in his vaccinations, and was not allowed to enroll in Louisiana State University without them. He got a note from his doctor that bought him 6 months of time, but ultimately had to get them. Ideally, we would like to live and raise our family in the Atlanta, Georgia area. Is there anyone here from Georgia who knows a little bit about vac. requirements for schools?<br><br>
Thanks in advance for any info you have.
 

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Hi CorgiMom. I am a mom to 7 dogs and 1 human son! Two things I would recommend -- you will soon be getting lots of posts here with links to good places to start. Search the threads here as there are so many great threads to read. I started doing vaccine research when it came to my pets...I no longer vaccinate my pets because of what I learned. I do not vax my son either.<br><br>
The most important thing for you and your SO to understand is that it is NOT a requirement to have vaccines in order for your future children to do ANYTHING they want to do. It is NOT a must...regardless of what your SO was told. There are exemptions that can be claimed under the law and cannot be challenged...so understand it will not keep your future children from doing anything that they want to do or go anywhere they want to go!<br><br>
This debate is a hot one...and charged with much emotion. Be careful and be sure to read the research...and who is responsible for the research...i.e. many pharma companies pay for research to be done...and not to say it is not true...but if you are paying for something to be proven or disproven...chances are the money will sway the scientificness of the tests being done!<br><br>
Lastly, come at the information with an open mind (and encourage your SO to do the same) and make an informed decision about what is best for your situation. There is so much out there and it can be a very scary decision to make. DO NOT take it lightly and just think that because "so and so" had vaccines and is fine so will my future children...and the like...just because "so and so" didn't have vaccines and is fine my future children will be too! It is a HARD decision to make...and one that I have to reaffirm a lot.<br><br>
Good luck. There are lots of smart mamas here that will guide you in the right direction!
 

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Here's the vax schedule:<br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5551a7.htm?s_cid=mm5551a7_e" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...cid=mm5551a7_e</a><br><br>
Here's some info on the diseases:<br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/menus/diseases.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/nip/menus/diseases.htm</a><br><br>
That second link has a lot of...umm...well, pro-vaccine propaganda in it. (And I say that as a selective vaxer, btw. I'm not part of the "all vaccines are nothing but evil poisons" camp). So take a lot of it with a grain of salt. But it's not a bad jumping off point. Especially read the pink book chapters on the diseases. That's some of the more reliable information, although it's not always 100% accurate.<br><br>
An ok "method" for starting off on the vaccine-education journey (And it's a long one...lol...) is to first find the vaccines you can pretty easily scratch off the list. HepA and influenza are the ones most people drop first. (I'll be back in a second with a link on why flushots are silly).<br><br>
When you have a list of the vaccines that look like a good idea to you, maybe start a new thread here and see what the reasons to skip it are.
 

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Here's the flushot study.<br><a href="http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7574/912" target="_blank">http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7574/912</a><br><br>
It's a systematic review of all the previous studies done on the vaccine, and the Cochrane Collaboration is considered the "gold standard" of "evidence based medicine". And when it comes to flushots, they out-right accused the CDC and the WHO of a "conflict of interest". Which is...well, you don't see that very often. They say that not only is there no evidence that they even work, but there's no evidence that they're even safe.
 

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Here is a great vaccination movie<br><a href="http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-2.html</a><br><br>
and a very interesting article/study about aluminum used in vaccines.<br><br><a href="http://www.straight.com/article/vaccines-show-sinister-side" target="_blank">http://www.straight.com/article/vacc...-sinister-side</a> .<br><br>
By the way, since you are future mom make sure you also learn about circumcision, a barbaric imputative surgery without anesthesia that has zero benefits and life long damage <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=44" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...splay.php?f=44</a><br><br>
good luck in your research!<br>
yulia.
 

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Here is a CDC list of "extra" stuff in vaccines<br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/...nt-table-2.pdf</a>
 

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Thanks so much for all of the links! I read through some of it, but my lunch break is over so I'll have to look at the rest later.<br><br>
Quick question: Someone I know on another board is currently wading through info about vacs, trying to determine which ones to give her baby girl. Does anyone mind if I share with her the links that you have given me?
 

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Please share anything I post.<br><br>
When we KNOW better we DO better.
 

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Here's the <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/def_pink_full.htm" target="_blank">CDC's Pink Book</a> with info on the diseases among other things. Also start looking through the stickies at the top of the forum as well as in the archives. There have been a few thread recently about what books to read too.
 
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