with nausea. We went to the health food store and got milk thistle, Stone Free and 2 gallons of natural organic apple juice. He started to do the fast but he was too hungry after doing juice most of Sat. but I'm still having him do low fat. He says the pain has gotten quite a bit better, being sporadic rather than constant. He doesn't seem to have attacks like I've heard, but he says the pain a sharp pain like someone sticking their elbow in his ribs. He's hadit pretty regular for a year, and the foods that set it off are citrus and salsa, and either of those with dairy are even worse. he's going to the doctor today, so we'll see. Its hard to say with those things, but i needed to know how his works with our tf method. He was really not low fat before,but last year he was on a major kick with the monster drinks after getting off claritin (he'd crash w/out something). He eats a lot of salt and soda junk. and fake creamers. And he recently started fasting from beer and coffee, and the pain began full time. I'll get back to you.