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DS is 9.5 months old. He will take a bottle of EBM when going down for a nap when I am gone but no other time. He thinks sippy cups (and open cups) are a great toy. He loves to put water in his mouth and then spit it back out. We were having some constipation problems that I have resolved mostly. All of the recommendations were to get more water into him. But HOW do I get it in him? I have been just pouring water in his mouth when he eats solids but he will take 2-3 sips tops and maybe get a swallow in. I went to a play group for the first time and these peoples babies were drinked 9 oz bottles FULL of water <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yikes">:. About how much should he be drinking? Will he eventullay figure the cup out and want to drink? About what age does this occur? Thanks so much for any help.
 

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My first thought isn't that he's not getting enough water, but that perhaps he's getting too much in the way of solids. Is he spoon fed at all? Or only self-fed? If he's spoon fed- I'd stop. Too easy to get too much into him.<br><br>
I would make sure he always nurses before solids then self-feeds any solids. Have water available (maybe try an open cup instead of a sippy cup)<br><br>
good luck!<br><br>
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We got my son to drink from a straw (very helpful at restaurants, which was our inspiration for figuring this out) by putting a straw in a glass of water and letting the water flow into his mouth, and then repeating with the straw more and more horizontal, so he eventually got the idea that sucking on the straw got more water faster. You have to sort of hold your finger over the end a bit to let in only a bit of air.<br><br>
My kids drank more water as their solids increased--mostly for my convenience, when they're really little I kept the water at the table and offered it just at mealtime. They drank til they didn't want anymore--that's not really informative as to quantity, is it? Sorry. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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He doesn't eat much solids. He self feeds most things, but I do spoon feed him prunes which helped a lot with the constipation. I tried just BM for 4 days and he didn't poo any. I do try the open cup, and I always nurse before solids. Maybe he is just not thirsty from nursing right before he eats... He just really really doesn't understand the concept of the cup (the whole tilting to get liquid thing.) Is there an age where they understand how they work?
 

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If he needs prunes then it's too much solids. Not pooing on just breastmilk isn't a concern usually. They just use the milk up, leaving little left to poo out.<br><br>
I would really back off the solids.<br><br>
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Usually babies who are nursing are getting all the fluids they need and don't really need plain water... I don't think my son was drinking that much of it at that age.<br><br>
If he is constipated, I would stop solids for now, or at least cut them way back to the very first fruit/veggies you started with. (IE, sweet potato, carrot, pears, avocado, etc.) I would definitely stop baby cereal if you are feeding that, it's notorious for causing constipation because of the iron content. You could try stopping all solids except for one (say, sweet potato) and just give that for a week, then each week add a new one. By going through this slowly, you should be able to pinpoint what food is causing the trouble. And, getting back to mainly breastmilk will help move things along a bit more. Remember that it is normal for an exclusively breastfed baby to go over a week without pooping!<br><br>
Hope that helps a bit!
 

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He has never had infant cereal. All he eats are a few veggies, some beans and the prunes. On a typical day he will eat a few pieces of broccoli 5-6 kidney beans and 4-5 bites of watered down prunes. ITA that not pooing for a week is normal for some babies, but not my DS. He always went every day/every other day. He started solids around 8 months. He gets as many solids as he does because he fights me for every single bite of food I am eating. I have to go in the other room and hide when I eat. I usually try to keep him busy with a spoon or a toy, but he is really really intersted in food. I think you guys answered my question in that he doesn't really need much water. I will keep an open cup with water there, but not worry too much if he doesn't get it in. Any to clarify, the constipation has really cleared up in the last week and it isn't a problem any more, I just wanted to try to prevent it from happening again by getting more water in him.
 

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That's not a lot of solids. With that few solids, it doesn't seem like his water intake would have to be really high--those are pretty moist foods, and not a lot, so you'd think the breastmilk would have enough liquid.<br><br>
Have you done any reading on whether probiotics could help with constipation in babies? It seems like there could be a relationship, and supplementing could help, but this is just speculative on my part.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That's not a lot of solids. With that few solids, it doesn't seem like his water intake would have to be really high--those are pretty moist foods, and not a lot, so you'd think the breastmilk would have enough liquid.<br><br>
Have you done any reading on whether probiotics could help with constipation in babies? It seems like there could be a relationship, and supplementing could help, but this is just speculative on my part.</div>
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No, I really haven't. I'm interested to see if anyone else knows anything about this. My DS has motor issues and has high tone in his legs which contributes to the consipation I think (I guess I should have mentioned that before-sorry.) I would love to hear more about this.
 

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Maybe your ds is like mine. My ds's body did not accept solids until closer to a year...like, maybe 11 months. Before that, anytime we gave him solids, he got constipated. We only gave him fruit but he still got constipated and when I asked for advice on one of the online boards I'm on, I got a whole bunch of, "You're feeding him too much starch" and "Stop giving him vitamins". It didn't seem to occur to anyone that a baby can get constipated from JUST FRUIT, just because they're not ready for solids.<br><br>
So anyway, after that experience, I've come to believe that some babies just can't digest solids until closer to one year. My ds did not actually start eating solids regularly until after 13 months.<br><br>
I did not give him any fluids other than breastmilk for the first year. I think I started giving him water or watered-down juice at around 14 months (when he started eating rice). When I started him on solids I was only giving him fruit, and I figured they contained enough water that he wouldn't need to drink plain water separately. Plus, he was still nursing a lot.<br><br>
I think that when it comes to food and drink, babies do know what they need. If he is spitting the water out, then I'd guess that he doesn't need it.<br><br>
Try not to stress, things will work out! Good luck. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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ITA that they really know when it is best to eat/drink. Hence the problem with solids. The kid would eat EVERYTHING if I let him. I really really limit him since the constipation started and haven't started to give him more yet, but he is really upset about it. I really want him to be able to eat when he wants to, but I don't want it to cause him problems. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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What is he trying to eat?<br><br>
I believe in listening to my kids. . . when they try to eat my food, then they need some too; when they won't eat a food, then I just take it away. However, some kids don't have the best instincts (or I think crave things they are allergic too).<br><br>
Has the constipation been a problem for a few days or a few months/since starting solids? Some kids have a little trouble at first, but then adjust to solids fine. However, if it is reoccuring it may something else.<br><br>
I would go for some whole grain crackers and let him eat lots of fruit, veggies, and beans. Avoid cheese, bannana, white foods. Perhaps watch for odd allergies/ sensitivities to the foods he is eating now (that can cause constipation).<br><br>
As far as water, I didn't give any to my boys until they were over a year. I didn't want them to wean, then I gave them water or milk with meals.
 

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He smells food and wants whatever we are eating. When I makes something for me and he acts interested, I give him something that he can eat. He doesn't eat any grains yet. Just fruits and veggies. He eats no bananas because of the problem and no dairy at all. Things have gotten better and I think it may have been a starting solids problem. It reallys seems to have resolved itself rather well. I will just hold off on the water for a while. Thanks for the advice.
 

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Is it a hard, constipated poop that he has a hard time passing?? Or is it just a frequency issue? When we started DD on solids, she seemed to poo a lot less frequently(with the exception of prunes!) She takes in about 1-2 tbsp a day of diced fruits or veggies, but sometimes doesn't even want any and goes days without. She goes poo maybe 1-2 times per week now, but it is a normal loose stool. I just figured that BM is such a perfect food that her body was just digesting most all of it, with little left to excrete. Hope you get things figured out for your LO!!
 

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After the like week and a half that he went without going, yes it was very hard and he was in a lot of pain passing it. But once we got that out, it hasn't been so hard. Much more firm than BM poo, but not rock hard or anything. It is definately a solid piece, but he isn't having trouble passing it. I really am not worried that he is constipated right now, I just know that he was and wanted to avoid it in the future.
 
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