[NaturalFamiLEA]

I have been researching high-vitamin butter oil, and Green Pastures is pricey. As far as I can tell, ghee is the same as butter oil, right? I found a website (http://www.pureindianfoods.com/order.shtml) that sells ghee for a much more reasonable price than GP's butter oil. Is this essentially the same?

Thanks in advance for the advice

 

[mbravebird]

Nope, ghee is cooked, butter oil is not. Cooking kills lots of the stuff, although not everything.

Also, you don't know if the ghee is from grass-fed animals. If it's not, it wouldn't have much of the good stuff to begin with.

ETA: I clicked on the link and saw that the ghee you found is grass-fed! That's great -- that would mean that some good stuff would survive the cooking. But not all. Not sure what you lose in the cooking.

OK, edited to add again, K2 (one of the most important elements of butter oil) is supposed to survive the pasteurization process, so maybe it survives the ghee cooking process? I would think they have to cook it at low heat in order to not burn it. Anyway, it's worth looking into.

 

[NaturalFamiLEA]

They claim to use low heat on their FAQ page.

I guess for the price, it's worth a shot. I noticed an amazing difference in my teeth when I used the CLO/BO capsules from Green Pasture's. So if I have to pay that much, I will, but only if I have to

 

[tanyalynn]

Butter oil isn't ghee, butter oil is much more concentrated--butter oil really is more like a nutritional supplement--it's not tasty like butter or ghee, at least that's my understanding. Ghee is also cooked and butter oil isn't, if that's a concern to you.

 

[organicmidwestmama]

hmm, well green pastures bo is from pasturized milk, otherwise it would have to have a huge disclaimer. so essentially it is cooked.

 

[mbravebird]

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Originally Posted by NaturalFamiLEA They claim to use low heat on their FAQ page. I guess for the price, it's worth a shot. I noticed an amazing difference in my teeth when I used the CLO/BO capsules from Green Pasture's. So if I have to pay that much, I will, but only if I have to

I just cross-posted with you in editing my above post. It looks like K2 survives the pasteurization process, and it's one of the most important elements of butter oil. So maybe it is worth a try ...

Let us know if you still see the big difference when using the ghee with clo! That would be great.

That company, by the way, looks wonderful.

 

[mom61508]

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Originally Posted by NaturalFamiLEA I have been researching high-vitamin butter oil, and Green Pastures is pricey. As far as I can tell, ghee is the same as butter oil, right? I found a website (http://www.pureindianfoods.com/order.shtml) that sells ghee for a much more reasonable price than GP's butter oil. Is this essentially the same? Thanks in advance for the advice

Their Ghee is Wonderful!! I've been using it for awhile. It's a beautiful bright yellow and taste great!!!

 

[NaturalFamiLEA]

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Originally Posted by organicmidwestmama hmm, well green pastures bo is from pasturized milk, otherwise it would have to have a huge disclaimer. so essentially it is cooked.

Pasteurized milk?

For that price, you would think they would use raw

That seals it, I am definitely trying the ghee

 

[Koalamom]

Butter oil is great and for the nutritional benefits you need about 1/2 teaspoon per day. Ghee isn't anything like butter oil. It is not concentrated. You will need over 4 teaspoons to get the K2 in butter oil dosage and if the ghee isn't from grass fed cows, you may not even come close to getting all the K2.

You could just use kerrygold butter in stead of ghee and it would be fine for getting K2.

We can't afford butter oil, and we are allergic to butter (and other dairy) so we use ghee made from kerrygold butter. Like I said above, I use a ton of it to get all the good stuff that butter oil has. If we weren't allergic to butter, we would use that instead of ghee.

 

[NaturalFamiLEA]

From what I can find, ghee *is* butter oil. The source I found does make the butter from cows fed rapidly-growing grass. I could buy Kerry Gold butter and make the butter oil/ghee myself, but I don't think I could make it for less than the ghee I found. I will be looking into making it myself, though.

I do plan on supplementing with the ghee, as well as using it to replace butter, so we will be getting several teaspoons per day.

 

[[email protected]]

I don't know what's butter oil but I do know ghee very well. Traditionally, it's made at home using farm cow's milk. This link does a good job of describing how it's made. Hope this helps

http://www.ayurveda-school.com/onlin...hee_recipe.htm

 

[NaturalFamiLEA]

That looks just like instructions for butter oil I've found elsewhere. Reading the article, they say you can get a quart of ghee/butter oil from 2 lbs of butter. So it's likely cheaper to make your own vs. buying ghee, even buying the good butter. And *way* less expensive than $60 for 8 oz that Green Pasture's charges

 

[JaneS]

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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 Butter oil is great and for the nutritional benefits you need about 1/2 teaspoon per day. Ghee isn't anything like butter oil. It is not concentrated. You will need over 4 teaspoons to get the K2 in butter oil dosage and if the ghee isn't from grass fed cows, you may not even come close to getting all the K2.

Ditto.

Ghee is not the "High Vitamin Butter Oil" that Green Pastures makes by centrifuging butter to separate the butter oil from the butter wax and thus concentrate the K2. It takes 8 lbs of cream to make one jar of Green Pastures High Vitamin Butter Oil.

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United States Patent Application Filed: June 18, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/294pul original link to the US Patent Office <http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnet ahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%222004 0258828%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040258828&RS=DN/20040258828> "A method for producing high vitamin butter oil includes the steps of providing a quantity of cow's milk and separating the cream in the cow's milk from the skim in the cow's milk. The cream is then churned into butter and the butter is removed from the buttermilk remaining in the cream. The butter is then placed in a cooking container and cooked at a temperature below 150° F. until a majority of the butter separates into clarified butter containing high vitamin butter oil and butter wax adjacent the top of the cooking container and butter solids adjacent the base of the cooking container. The clarified butter is removed from the cooking container and allowed to stand, and then the high vitamin butter oil is separated from the butter wax by a centrifuge or the like. The high vitamin butter oil is then ready for use as a dietary supplement."

We use Purity Farms grass fed ghee purchased at Whole Foods, it's much cheaper than the Pure Indian Foods.

 

[NaturalFamiLEA]

That was very informative, thanks!

It seems clear now that Pure Indian Food's (PIF) ghee is butter oil + butter wax (first time I've heard of butter wax!) and Green Pasture's (GP) butter oil has the butter wax removed.

The question is, how much butter wax is in ghee? I have not received my ghee yet (only placed the order today) so I can't try to guesstimate by looking. Let's just say ghee is 50% butter oil and 50% butter wax. If that was so, I'd have to take twice as much ghee as butter oil get the same benefits. PIF's ghee is less than $.08/ounce (28.8 oz bottle) and GP's butter oil is $3.75/ounce. Taking twice as much ghee still only costs me $.16 an ounce.

I have not read about GP's quality, but I have read on PIF's website about their butter, cows, farm, and am very happy with what I have read. Their cows are fed rapidly-growing grass, the milk is non-homogenized, ghee made from said cows summer to late fall only, on the waxing moon (if that matters to anyone lol), butter melted on low heat in stainless steel pots, ghee placed in glass bottles. I am not sure how Green Pastures' quality can be any better.

 

[Rasa]

Regarding how to make ghee--can that be right--2 lbs of butter makes 1 quart of ghee? 2 lbs of butter IS 1 quart of butter, right? I'd love to make it if I don't need to buy TOO much butter to make it work (in case I burn something, spill it all, etc.

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I just got my first container of ghee from PIF yesterday and WOW--what a flavor!! It tastes so rich and almost caramel-like to me...I put the tiniest bit on my yam last night and when I had leftovers today, it still tasted wonderfully of the ghee...mmm! May have to go pop some popcorn in it now!

 

[Koalamom]

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...=butter+oil+k2

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...=butter+oil+k2

Here are some links with good info.

 

[organicmidwestmama]

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Originally Posted by Rasa Regarding how to make ghee--can that be right--2 lbs of butter makes 1 quart of ghee? 2 lbs of butter IS 1 quart of butter, right? I'd love to make it if I don't need to buy TOO much butter to make it work (in case I burn something, spill it all, etc. ) I just got my first container of ghee from PIF yesterday and WOW--what a flavor!! It tastes so rich and almost caramel-like to me...I put the tiniest bit on my yam last night and when I had leftovers today, it still tasted wonderfully of the ghee...mmm! May have to go pop some popcorn in it now!

no, thats not right ime. you will get maybe 1/4 less ghee from the total butter you began with.

 

[mama_erica]

I have been reading through all the posts and I had the same question about the Pure India Foods ghee vs. butter oil. A quick e-mail to both companies put an end the question. Both companies were in agreement that they are not the same. Although the PIF ghee is of high quality and still an important addition to our diets it is not as concentrated as butter oil. Ghee is a food, butter oil is a supplement. Hope that helps clarify things.

 

[sjm442005]

Green pastures high vitamin butter oil IS RAW it says so right on the bottle .... http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/ButterOil/index.cfm click on the picture of the label to zoom in-- it says RAW in the top right hand corner....

 

[BubblingBrooks]

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Originally Posted by sjm442005

Green pastures high vitamin butter oil IS RAW it says so right on the bottle .... http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/ButterOil/index.cfm click on the picture of the label to zoom in-- it says RAW in the top right hand corner....

Yes! And you would have to eat a great deal of ghee to get the same benefit of the tiny amount of butter oil.
One jar will last one person 6 months, so the price is very small!